Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 19 - Shortest Court Day, EVER

[daisydomino]

As to further reading, which I've been doing all morning, there are several articles on this site to read, all of them well thought out.
http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/2014/12/dismissal-of-charges-removal-of-dp.html

On another subject, I read somewhere that the word on the $699 check was air fare..

I read that about the check memo here on WS. Did you see that anywhere else? Airfare makes sense, but I'm not 100% sold that that's the only thing it could possibly say. The only image of that check that I've seen is too blurry to read with any certainty. Beth Karas, in her video on Monday, said she might try to get a copy of that check but she didn't sound sure that she'd be able to.

I didn't find anything about the U-Haul BMW on that site.

 

[janx]

Here's what we have so far:

1/31/2015	Netbrsr
2/27/2015	slinkpod
3/6/2015	WhoaIsMe
3/13/2015	jane the dood
3/31/2015	YESorNO
4/1/2015	Marshmallow
4/1/2015	byo
4/1/2015	MsJosie
4/3/2015	Bernina
4/10/2015	FinallyRegistered
4/15/2015	Curious in indiana
5/14/2015	daisydomino
5/15/2015	Frigga
6/10/2015	rose222

The predictions are coming in pretty quickly right now. I'll post again this evening.

ETA: here's the link if you haven't placed your "bet" yet
http://goo.gl/forms/o6O5Qbu6ic

April 8, 2015

Remember, the middle of January is next week!

 

[bznbear]

On purpose.

I did not know that the murderer had simply borrowed Travis' BMW. News to me. Thanks!

IIRC JA tried to convince Travis' executor he'd left the BMer to her, but failed, so yeah, he never gave it to her. Just another fab fabrication.

 

[Nosey Parker]

I read that about the check memo here on WS. Did you see that anywhere else? Airfare makes sense, but I'm not 100% sold that that's the only thing it could possibly say. The only image of that check that I've seen is too blurry to read with any certainty. Beth Karas, in her video on Monday, said she might try to get a copy of that check but she didn't sound sure that she'd be able to.

I didn't find anything about the U-Haul BMW on that site.

Try this blog http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.ca/2014_12_01_archive.html Quite a-ways down the page - under Actions do not Support her Allegations

 

[Nali87]

I will unless real life intercedes, no reason not to. I believe in Juan and JSS. The blame belongs fairly and squarely on the DT. There will not be a mistrial due to juror attrition as everyone fears.

But JSS is the one who allows them to do the things they do.
She could've demanded they focus on "childporn" only when discussing computergate - she hasn't.
She could correct the witnesses who call JM "Juan", call him "Slimey', or just plain refuse to answer his question - she hasn't.
She could tell the witnesses NOT to tell the jury "See what JM does there? That's what I mean with slimey" (Or whatever it is Dr. F said) - she didn't.
She shouldn't have allowed JA to testify in secret, she should demand the lawyers (on both side) show more appropiate courtroom behavior towards one another and her court, etc.
She should stop all the secret sidebars.
She let the DT go weeks without handing in the harddrive JM asked for, schedule interviews on time, etc.
I could probably think of more grievances on JSS, that directly or indirectly have led to us having more delays than we would have otherwise. IMO.

Sure the DT has gotten away with a lot, but it's only because she lets them. She's the one with the "power" to put a stop to what they do.

 

[LinasK]

But JSS is the one who allows them to do the things they do.
She could've demanded they focus on "childporn" only when discussing computergate - she hasn't.
She could correct the witnesses who call JM "Juan", call him "Slimey', or just plain refuse to answer his question - she hasn't.
She could tell the witnesses NOT to tell the jury "See what JM does there? That's what I mean with slimey" (Or whatever it is Dr. F said) - she didn't.
She shouldn't have allowed JA to testify in secret, she should demand the lawyers (on both side) show more appropiate courtroom behavior towards one another and her court, etc.
She should all the secret sidebars.

Sure the DT has gotten away with a lot, but it's only because she lets them. She's the one with the "power" to put a stop to what they do.

Then they'd have more appeal issues because she didn't give them the latitude to present "their fullest case for life".

 

[grammieto5]

Well I've realized Feb 1 will too soon, so I choose May 8, the date the murderer was convicted. I hope I'm wrong and it happens sooner

 

[Nali87]

Then they'd have more appeal issues because she didn't give them the latitude to present "their fullest case for life".

Again, she's the judge. This might be her first capital case, but it's not the first capital case of all time in the USA or in Arizona. She has decades of case law she can access, decades of COA and Supreme Court rulings to guide her. She's a judge. She knows/should know that the D.T. will cry "mistrial/appeal" at every opportunity and she should know which things have a chance to be successful on appeal. The things she feels would not stand on appeal, shouldn't be allowed. Judges are there for a reason. JSS can't just leave all the important decisions over to the Courts of Appeal; she's not much of a judge then if that's how she operates.

Just going on what AzLawyer types here, since I don't know much about Arizona Law, but some of JSS' decisions (especially allowing JA to testify in secret) are baffling and have proved that they wouldn't have a chance in hell on appeal.

JMO!

 

[Dmacky]

While I'm not happy with the delays in this trial, I don't believe JSS is pandering to or is biased in favor of the DT. Not at all. I do think she was unprepared for the magnitude of this case and has made some really bad decisions which we've all gone over ad infinitum. I think Hope4more said it best - she's paralyzed. The DT smell blood in the water, and have used JSS's uncertainty and insecurity with startling alacrity, imo. And I do think she's allowing the guilt phase to be re-addressed.

Regardless of how many roadblocks the DT want to throw up, though, it still is HER courtroom and she can stop/limit their actions. We know she knows the law, and she should also be savvy enough to know when the Court is being manipulated, and assertive enough to shut it down. The judge should never be the reason for a mistrial. I wonder what new end date she gave the jury; is she in jeopardy of missing it once again?

I honestly believe she cringes at the sight of JA. And all the other judges in her district are thanking their lucky stars that they weren't assigned to this manipulative psychopaths case...

I want to go pro se. Never mind I don't. Wash ~ spin ~ bleach ~ REPEAT
I'm filing 640983728 motions today
I'm filing 487 appeals today
I know my rights
I have my rights
I am always right


JA files all of these ridiculous motions and appeals to cause nothing but delays. She's in her element of control because she knows they have to have hearings on them...(more delays) and that the attorneys have to argue the motions. delays............

I actually feel sorry for JSS....
MOO ~ and yes, I am ducking as I run

 

[Frigga]

^^^ I'll stand in front of you!

 

[Nali87]

I remember one time JA requested an after-party-meeting after she had just stopped representing herself and JSS was like "NO!". I miss that JSS. Come back to me, old JSS. :boohoo:

 

[Dmacky]

:seeya:

Respectfully Snipped & BBM:

This is JMO, but I have been wondering IF Nurmi has had some "outside" help on this case ?

In other words, I do not believe Nurmi is that smart, and he is certainly not impressive in the courtroom. I wonder IF some of the DP opponents have gave Nurmi suggestions/strategies on issues such as: how to get the DP off the table, how to delay, how to get a mistrial, etc ? Oh, and I don't mean someone like a Baez, who only got lucky with a brainless jury.

Nurmi is up against one of the best prosecutors in the country, and he is certainly NO match for Juan Martinez !

Yet Nurmi has been able to delay this re-trial way past the Dec 18 deadline, got JSS to agree to allow CMJA testify in private which is against the Constitution ... then you have the computer fiasco ... and y'all know all the rest of Nurmi's BS tactics.

And yep, JSS's lack of control of her courtroom has contributed to the problem !

There is no doubt Juan can handle Nurmi and the DT's BS ... but these stunts Nurmi has pulled and will continue to do is totally and completely unfair to Juan !

I am tired of the favoritism that exists in that courtroom for the defense and no consideration for Juan and the Alexander Family !

:gaah:

IMO
All his "help" is coming straight from JA. The last time he tried to get off of this case, he stated (not verbatim) that him and his DE-finDANT did not agree on her "defense" strategy? I don't know for sure, but I have an idea that he was not happy about the new computer nonsense ?

Every time I hear the word "strategy," I think of Will Ferrell playing Bush on SNL and saying Stra- TEE-jar-ee ~ lol

 

[Nosey Parker]

I remember one time JA requested an after-party-meeting after she had just stopped representing herself and JSS was like "NO!". I miss that JSS. Come back to me, old JSS. :boohoo:

I believe that's the time Juan protested at Arias speaking, and JSS directed her to another judge. I've never heard any more about what that was concerning.

IMO JSS is now in over her head, lacking in self-confidence. While I understand that she is virtually at the legal mercy of a malicious murderer demanding every 'right' known to man, she should be able to run this trial in a timely manner, and keep order and discretion in her court. My main concern with the present state of affairs is that the jury is hearing little scraps of testimony now and again, both out of order and appearing irrelevant. If they remain intact, how they are supposed to make head nor tail of all this is beyond me.

 

[Nali87]

I believe that's the time Juan protested at Arias speaking, and JSS directed her to another judge. I've never heard any more about what that was concerning.

IMO JSS is now in over her head, lacking in self-confidence. While I understand that she is virtually at the legal mercy of a malicious murderer demanding every 'right' known to man, she should be able to run this trial in a timely manner, and keep order and discretion in her court. My main concern with the present state of affairs is that the jury is hearing little scraps of testimony now and again, both out of order and appearing irrelevant. If they remain intact, how they are supposed to make head nor tail of all this is beyond me.

I agree but you know, on the other hand, someone has to be pretty damn confident to even pursue a career in the justice system in the first place. And to be a judge, I think you really need to be very self confident. And she wasn't like this in the first trial... I really want to know what changed.

 

[Nosey Parker]

I agree but you know, on the other hand, someone has to be pretty damn confident to even pursue a career in the justice system in the first place. And to be a judge, I think you really need to be very self confident. And she wasn't like this in the first trial... I really want to know what changed.

You and me both!

 

[5bigfish5]

She didn't ignore the COA ruling. Nurmi appealed it and she has to wait for the answer on appeal, IIRC.

Respectfully snipped by me.

But, that isn't really entirely true. Nurmi didn't file with the ASC until 8:30 AM on Jan 5th.

Sherry had had the COA's decision since the 3rd of November for the 3-panel and since the 26th of November for the whole shebang.

Either Sherry never had any intention of following the CoA's order or she is enabling Nurmi by not acting until HIS 30 days were up. I say she's in bed with them.

FGS, She won't even order the DT to let Juan get what the computer guys used to assert Prosecutorial misconduct, let him have ample time for depos/interviews or give him access to pseudonym, without 7000 pages to go through. MOO

 

[elementary]

It's not gonna go 'till 2016. There's only so much the DT can pull. We haven't lost any more jurors to attrition yet despite everyone's fears. Juan has gotten the DP for a woman in AZ before and he'll do it again. I remain confident.

I was exaggerating for effect. Sorry that wasn't clear! In reality, I have picked the end of March for a verdict in the pool. My second choice would be June.

 

[Nosey Parker]

I'm not betting - too many wild cards for me. :notgood:

 

[elementary]

But JSS is the one who allows them to do the things they do.
She could've demanded they focus on "childporn" only when discussing computergate - she hasn't.
She could correct the witnesses who call JM "Juan", call him "Slimey', or just plain refuse to answer his question - she hasn't.
She could tell the witnesses NOT to tell the jury "See what JM does there? That's what I mean with slimey" (Or whatever it is Dr. F said) - she didn't.
She shouldn't have allowed JA to testify in secret, she should demand the lawyers (on both side) show more appropiate courtroom behavior towards one another and her court, etc.
She should stop all the secret sidebars.
She let the DT go weeks without handing in the harddrive JM asked for, schedule interviews on time, etc.
I could probably think of more grievances on JSS, that directly or indirectly have led to us having more delays than we would have otherwise. IMO.

Sure the DT has gotten away with a lot, but it's only because she lets them. She's the one with the "power" to put a stop to what they do.

A really egregious act in my books is having Juan interview Neumeister-finally, then pulling him from the trial and putting Sue in his slot, someone whom Juan had not interviewed, while wasting Juan's time with Neumeister. Which is why the jury was sent home immediately after they arrived and why there is no trial this week, because Juan was forced to ask for time to interview Sue. Where are the sanctions?

 

[daisydomino]

Respectfully snipped by me.

But, that isn't really entirely true. Nurmi didn't file with the ASC until 8:30 AM on Jan 5th.

Sherry had had the COA's decision since the 3rd of November for the 3-panel and since the 26th of November for the whole shebang.

Either Sherry never had any intention of following the CoA's order or she is enabling Nurmi by not acting until HIS 30 days were up. I say she's in bed with them.

FGS, She won't even order the DT to let Juan get what the computer guys used to assert Prosecutorial misconduct, let him have ample time for depos/interviews or give him access to pseudonym, without 7000 pages to go through. MOO

7000 pages. That's 14 reams of paper.

plus four more reams.

I hope they didn't fax that one.