CO - Possible Serial Shooter Has Colorado Drivers on Edge #1

[Montjoy]

The other day I googled "exploding bullets" and "exploding ammunition" and it gets real interesting as there are various types.

Actually, I don't think that the sort of ammo suggested above would be called 'exploding bullets'. It's more like this--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frangibility

And I think these are unlikely projectiles to have been used.

I also have to think that LE has only connected two shootings, and has definitively judged 16 of the others to have been rock debris, and has not suggested that any other of the events that have been clumped together here are as a result of a projectile. I have to wonder if the media is trying to scare people. Only two shots have been connected, and many more have been determined to be unrelated.

 

[Forager]

A little background color, for perspective. Not a tough neighborhood, it seems.

How safe is Windsor compared to other places in Colorado?
Adrian D. Garcia, The Coloradoan 6:01 p.m. MDT July 22, 2014

"The brokerage company Movoto Real Estate ranked Windsor among its new “These are the 10 Safest Places in Colorado” list based on information from the U.S. Census Bureau and FBI crime data.

... The real estate broker ranked Loveland as the 13th safest place in the state followed by Fort Collins, which claimed the 23rd spot on the list.

In March, the Loveland-Fort Collins metro area was ranked the third best city for resident’s well-being in a Gallup poll."

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/new...fe-windsor-compared-places-colorado/13022121/

 

[Forager]

I've resliced the "incidents" reporting here to look at whether the shootings grouped up by time and area. Do the afternoon incidents group up in one area, and the morning ones in another?

Numbers are assigned to each cell based on the location of an incident. Each number (1-5) represents a strip of land running east/west. The strips with lower numbers are further south than the strips with high numbers. So if a cell has a 5 in it, it means that one incident happened at that day and time in the far north of the case area. A 1 and a 5 in a cell would mean that two incidents occurred, one in the south and one in the north.

In the early morning time slot (6:01 AM - 9:00 AM), for instance, our guy seems to prefer the north, with all four incidents in the northern zones 4 and 5.

Incidents Spreadsheet and Table (on the Time_Table tab)



One consideration in judging the data is that is still includes incidents that LE has discounted as having been caused by problems unrelated to the case: road debris, misaligned door frames, and vibrations. I would like to take those incidents out of the data set, but don't have any specifics on which ones LE has discounted and which have yet to be explained. (It would sure make the map less scary if I could.) And of course, we lack times for a lot of incidents.

There's been talk in the media about an upcoming compilation of the May incidents reports. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the NOCO Task Force and the Press will be nice and specific about locations and times when and if that happens.

Here's a screenshot showing the scale I used to assign numbers for how far north an incident was:

Case Map

 

[margarita25]

Road debris behind Sunday shattered window incident


Allison Sylte



http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/06/08/i-25-shattered-windows-weld-county/28704781/

"WELD COUNTY – Investigators say road debris – and not a bullet – is responsible for Sunday's shattered window incident on Interstate 25 in Weld County."

 

[margarita25]

A little background color, for perspective. Not a tough neighborhood, it seems.

How safe is Windsor compared to other places in Colorado?
Adrian D. Garcia, The Coloradoan 6:01 p.m. MDT July 22, 2014

"The brokerage company Movoto Real Estate ranked Windsor among its new “These are the 10 Safest Places in Colorado” list based on information from the U.S. Census Bureau and FBI crime data.

... The real estate broker ranked Loveland as the 13th safest place in the state followed by Fort Collins, which claimed the 23rd spot on the list.

In March, the Loveland-Fort Collins metro area was ranked the third best city for resident’s well-being in a Gallup poll."

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/new...fe-windsor-compared-places-colorado/13022121/

Bs jmo

Just take a look around, there are more nutjobs here in NOCO than anywhere I've ever seen, jmo moo!

 

[Forager]

I've cleaned up the "Incident List" spreadsheet a bit for clarity and updated the "Time Tables" (the summaries of incidents by day and time posted earlier) to discount the Sunday 6/6/15 window shattering. Larimer Cty.Sh.Off. is deeming it to have been "due to road debris" as Margarita pointed out just below.

Time Table

Incident List

I've also taken that 6/6/15 shattering off of the map (or 'hidden' it, really, in an undisplayed layer).

Case Map

 

[SugarQueen]

I'm sorry, I don't care how many times they spout the road debris, vibration, blah, blah, blah I think think that's being used because they have no proof of anything causing it. For that reason I'm not willing to forget all those shattered windows. Jmo

 

[katydid23]

This may be a stupid question, but does the high altitude and dense air pressure in Denver have an effect on windows shattering?

 

[SugarQueen]

This may be a stupid question, but does the high altitude and dense air pressure in Denver have an effect on windows shattering?

There is an article or two floating around that state LE/ task force have checked with meteorologists and other specialists. None of them can explain it. I think the road debris, vibration, no see um statements = we don't know/ totally unexplained. JMO

 

[spamelope]

This may be a stupid question, but does the high altitude and dense air pressure in Denver have an effect on windows shattering?

I did hear a story years ago that a weather system passed through Rawlins, WY and shattered a bunch of vehicle windshields. Certainly, some of these incidents can be attributed to natural phenomena, defects in the glass, and flying debris. But the fact that there was a huge increase at a time when we know we have an active shooter, isn't a coincidence imo. LE have a lot of reasons to downplay this. They don't want people to panic, or themselves to look incompetent. The FBI has behavioral experts telling them what to say to the media, too. They may want to intentionally pizz off the guy by not giving him credit for his handiwork.

 

[spamelope]

Expert says northern Colorado serial shooter is likely a man, a loner and a psychopath
DENVER - After three shootings in as many months, a criminologist tells 7NEWS he believes the crimes are likely connected and the work of one gunman.

"Shooting somebody, that's easy. That doesn't take a man. That takes a mental degenerate," said criminologist Don Lindley.

The Regis University professor spent decades in law enforcement before earning his doctorate in criminology.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...oter-is-likely-a-man-a-loner-and-a-psychopath

 

[margarita25]

I'm sorry, I don't care how many times they spout the road debris, vibration, blah, blah, blah I think think that's being used because they have no proof of anything causing it. For that reason I'm not willing to forget all those shattered windows. Jmo

I would like to know exactly how they came to the conclusion it was "road debris". Very curious how this happened.

There's an article at this link, but I'm able to see what it is since I've exceeded my free subscription. Can somebody please check to see what they say there? TIA!

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/06/08/interstate-shattered-window/28712051/

 

[margarita25]

So, a few comments imo from a local's prespective:

1. While many are aware of the shootings and shattering incidents in the area, many are not, because they "don't watch the news". And some who have heard about it aren't very clear as far as the details imo. I'm constantly having to correct them, lol.

2. I assembled a small local group of friends at the bar last night and picked their brains. They all said that they don't understand how a car window just blows out/completely shatters, that when a rock has hit their car it has been a spider crack, etc.

3. Most noteworthy imo was insight from my good friend who really knows these roads and travels them daily. I showed him our maps, (everyone was very impressed, lol) and he said "I bet he's using County Road 1".

Everything is fwiw, moo, jmo, speculation, brainstorming.

 

[margarita25]

This may be a stupid question, but does the high altitude and dense air pressure in Denver have an effect on windows shattering?

Not a stupid question at all katy!

 

[margarita25]

Expert says northern Colorado serial shooter is likely a man, a loner and a psychopath
DENVER - After three shootings in as many months, a criminologist tells 7NEWS he believes the crimes are likely connected and the work of one gunman.

"Shooting somebody, that's easy. That doesn't take a man. That takes a mental degenerate," said criminologist Don Lindley.

The Regis University professor spent decades in law enforcement before earning his doctorate in criminology.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...oter-is-likely-a-man-a-loner-and-a-psychopath

Also from this story, ""If this is one individual, we're talking about a psychopath," Lindley said. "They lack empathy. They can't identify with you. They don't care about you. They have no remorse."

Lindley believes the suspect is a loner who stays out at night, likely works a menial job, if any, and has very few friends."


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"That escalation, Lindley said, is reason enough to be worried it will happen again.

"I have no doubt there will be a good result from this, that they will find this individual, the only question is, when?"

Lindley said another reason for worry is the possibility of copycats."



http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...oter-is-likely-a-man-a-loner-and-a-psychopath

 

[PrairieWind]

I have gotten countless rocks into my front windshield over the years, but I have never gotten a side window damaged, let alone shattered, from road debris. I drive these roads plenty and I don't see anything different about the road surface that would lead me to believe there is suddenly a surge in debris. Now, closer to Denver there has indeed been a LOT of debris in the road for some reason. But that is not where these incidents are happening. If they really believe this is debris, then I think at night CDOT should be clearing the roads at night.

 

[margarita25]

rsbm:

If they really believe this is debris, then I think at night CDOT should be clearing the roads at night.

Right! Seriously!

 

[Kip]

This may be a stupid question, but does the high altitude and dense air pressure in Denver have an effect on windows shattering?

Even if it did, there would be data (reports to LE, windshield repair shops) as to whether there is a recent spike in shattered windshields.

As regards to it being attributed to a recent weather phenomena - is the same thing happening in adjacent areas?

If it were attributable to either weather or elevation, you would probably expect to find windows shattering while vehicles are sitting in driveways and garages, in the middle of town, on crowded freeways, etc., not just in areas where there are few people about.

 

[margarita25]

I have gotten countless rocks into my front windshield over the years, but I have never gotten a side window damaged, let alone shattered, from road debris. I drive these roads plenty and I don't see anything different about the road surface that would lead me to believe there is suddenly a surge in debris. Now, closer to Denver there has indeed been a LOT of debris in the road for some reason. But that is not where these incidents are happening. If they really believe this is debris, then I think at night CDOT should be clearing the roads at night.

Speaking of CDOT:

http://kdvr.com/2015/06/09/cdot-soars-above-denver-roads-in-a-blimp-to-monitor-traffic/

"DENVER — You’ll have to look up to find CDOT on Tuesday, because they’re surveying Colorado traffic patterns from a helium blimp this week."

 

[margarita25]

Qmfr:

Speaking of CDOT:

http://kdvr.com/2015/06/09/cdot-soars-above-denver-roads-in-a-blimp-to-monitor-traffic/

"DENVER — You’ll have to look up to find CDOT on Tuesday, because they’re surveying Colorado traffic patterns from a helium blimp this week."

"The department was focusing on I-25 and 70th Avenue.

They are hoping to help your commute to work."