2015.06.28 Timestamp Indicated per Probable Cause Doc

[RANCH]

Semantics - Direct flight simply means that an itinerary maintains the same flight number from beginning to end (it could stop multiple times). The term for a flight w/no stops is exactly how it sounds - Non-Stop.

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Did Teresa take a "Direct Flight" back to Florida or a "Non-Stop" flight?

 

[Cymbaline]

Did Teresa take a "Direct Flight" back to Florida or a "Non-Stop" flight?

i could only find one direct flight that would land at 10AM on JetBlue, so I am clueless since skinner said she arrived at 11PM


JMO.IMO.MOO

 

[creepingskills]

Did Teresa take a "Direct Flight" back to Florida or a "Non-Stop" flight?

IIRC from Duntulum's post, the family usually departed from NY because the Westchester airport had direct flights to Ft. Myers.

 

[Cymbaline]

IIRC from Duntulum's post, the family usually departed from NY because the Westchester airport had direct flights to Ft. Myers.

Westchester County (HPN) – Fort Myers (RSW)

 

[Cymbaline]

All the Sunday flights for:

Westchester County (HPN) – Fort Myers (RSW)



6:55 am – 10:01 am
JetBlue
3h 06m
Nonstop


6:00 am – 11:01 am
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
5h 01m
1 stop
1h 01m in PHL


7:00 pm – 11:52 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
4h 52m
1 stop
55m in ATL


6:00 am – 12:59 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
6h 59m
1 stop
2h 56m in PHL


6:30 am – 12:01 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
5h 31m
1 stop
1h 27m in CLT


6:30 am – 1:54 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
7h 24m
1 stop
3h 22m in CLT


6:20 am – 11:36 am
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle, Republic Airlines as American Eagle
5h 16m
1 stop
1h 02m in DCA


6:59 pm – 12:01 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
5h 02m
1 stop
1h 08m in CLT


12:00 pm – 6:15 pm
American · PSA Airlines as American Eagle
6h 15m
1 stop
2h 21m in CLT


6:00 am – 1:05 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
7h 05m
1 stop
3h 08m in ATL


12:31 pm – 12:02 am+1
American · Envoy Air as American Eagle
11h 31m
1 stop
6h 05m in ORD


6:00 am – 11:28 am
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
5h 28m
1 stop
1h 32m in ATL


7:20 am – 1:05 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
5h 45m
1 stop
1h 46m in ATL


5:29 pm – 11:52 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 23m
1 stop
2h 19m in ATL


6:00 am – 9:09 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
15h 09m
1 stop
11h 11m in PHL


9:35 am – 9:09 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
11h 34m
1 stop
7h 32m in PHL


9:35 am – 11:01 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
25h 26m
1 stop
21h 22m in PHL


6:30 am – 6:15 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
11h 45m
1 stop
7h 52m in CLT


6:30 am – 7:56 pm
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
13h 26m
1 stop
9h 32m in CLT


6:30 am – 12:01 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
17h 31m
1 stop
13h 42m in CLT


6:30 am – 9:31 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
27h 01m
1 stop
23h 07m in CLT


6:59 pm – 9:31 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
14h 32m
1 stop
10h 33m in CLT


6:59 pm – 12:01 pm+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
17h 02m
1 stop
12h 53m in CLT


6:59 pm – 1:54 pm+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
18h 55m
1 stop
14h 48m in CLT


6:59 pm – 6:15 pm+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
23h 16m
1 stop
19h 18m in CLT


6:59 pm – 7:56 pm+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
24h 57m
1 stop
20h 58m in CLT


5:00 pm – 2:58 pm+1
American · PSA Airlines as American Eagle, Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
21h 58m
1 stop
17h 38m in DCA


12:33 pm – 6:38 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 05m
1 stop
2h 04m in ATL


3:05 pm – 9:39 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 34m
1 stop
2h 28m in ATL


6:55 pm – 4:03 pm+1
American · Envoy Air as American Eagle
21h 08m
1 stop
15h 11m in ORD


5:58 pm – 11:01 am+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
17h 03m
1 stop
13h 03m in PHL

5:58 pm – 9:09 pm+1
American · Air Wisconsin as American Eagle
27h 11m
1 stop
23h 13m in PHL


12:00 pm – 7:56 pm
American · PSA Airlines as American Eagle
7h 56m
1 stop
4h 01m in CLT


12:00 pm – 12:01 am+1
American · PSA Airlines as American Eagle
12h 01m
1 stop
8h 11m in CLT

 

[human]

Did you notice how many hours those fights are? Wow

 

[human]

Totally o/ t but I see some flights are with Wisconsin air. Here is Lutheran air.

[video=youtube;KakIacaDyCI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakIacaDyCI[/video]

 

[Cymbaline]

Did you notice how many hours those fights are? Wow

This flight seems like the most likely flight.... What do you think?

3:05 pm – 9:39 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 34m
1 stop
2h 28m in ATL

 

[NSS]

This flight seems like the most likely flight.... What do you think?

3:05 pm – 9:39 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 34m
1 stop
2h 28m in ATL

This makes a lot of sense in many ways and answers some of the questions I had.
It leaves at a time that would allow her to spend the day with the girls.
It arrives at a time that allows for a reasonable bed time since she had work.
It doesn't involve changing planes, but could allow for a quick bite to eat.

It stops in ATL which is notorious for delays, sounds like it could also be a connecting flight (with the length of the stop over it shouldn't just be refuelling).

IF this plane was delayed and TS called MS to let him know, He in turn would have to call his 'brother' to advise him of the delay.
A quick check of MS phone records would show that call and it would explain why CWW was a suspect so soon after.

Thanks to all those who studied flight times.

 

[InterestedViewer]

This flight seems like the most likely flight.... What do you think?

3:05 pm – 9:39 pm
Delta · Expressjet DBA Delta Connection
6h 34m
1 stop
2h 28m in ATL

When I googled flights from HPN to RSW this morning, I found this one. Not sure if it was available on 6/28 or not, but it sounds more in line with the time she arrived.

4:25 pm – 6:21 pm
Westchester County (HPN) – Detroit (DTW)
Delta 3702 · Canadair Reg. Jet
Operated by Endeavor Air DBA Delta Connection
Average legroom (31")

1h 56m



Layover in Detroit DTW
1h 34m

7:55 pm – 10:54 pm
Detroit (DTW) – Fort Myers (RSW)
Delta 1541 · Boeing 757
Average legroom (31")

2h 59m

 

[human]

When I googled flights from HPN to RSW this morning, I found this one. Not sure if it was available on 6/28 or not, but it sounds more in line with the time she arrived.

4:25 pm – 6:21 pm
Westchester County (HPN) – Detroit (DTW)
Delta 3702 · Canadair Reg. Jet
Operated by Endeavor Air DBA Delta Connection
Average legroom (31")

1h 56m



Layover in Detroit DTW
1h 34m

7:55 pm – 10:54 pm
Detroit (DTW) – Fort Myers (RSW)
Delta 1541 · Boeing 757
Average legroom (31")

2h 59m

Detroit seems way too far out of the way

 

[FelicityLemon]

Detroit seems way too far out of the way

Maybe, but the layovers are so much shorter than some of the other flights. Total trip hours aren't bad.

 

[PeskySlueth]

This makes a lot of sense in many ways and answers some of the questions I had.
It leaves at a time that would allow her to spend the day with the girls.
It arrives at a time that allows for a reasonable bed time since she had work.
It doesn't involve changing planes, but could allow for a quick bite to eat.

It stops in ATL which is notorious for delays, sounds like it could also be a connecting flight (with the length of the stop over it shouldn't just be refuelling).

IF this plane was delayed and TS called MS to let him know, He in turn would have to call his 'brother' to advise him of the delay.
A quick check of MS phone records would show that call and it would explain why CWW was a suspect so soon after.

Thanks to all those who studied flight times.

they probably used disposable phones and there would be no trace.

 

[GrilledCheezy]

Detroit seems way too far out of the way

When I fly Delta to the west coast, I always have to go from Little Rock --> ATL --> Vegas, SFO, wherever. 427 miles out of the way to the east coast to get to the west coast...that's Delta for ya. But hey, I get the Skymiles.

 

[NSS]

they probably used disposable phones and there would be no trace.

No need to, it is not illegal to call a friend, nor is it unusual, it only became of interest once TS was found to have been murdered. It is the content of that call that would be valuable, and without CWW or MS sharing that information it is only a lead not evidence.

CWW is not as smart as he believes (and would have us believe), he is currently in a FL jail awaiting trial for murder.

The 'brothers' had no reason to think that either one would be a suspect, MS was out of State and CWW lived out of State, no need to suspect either of them. They hadn't counted on LE investigating in a step by step manner, in order to eliminate those closest to her. They are not smart, not masterminds, they are cold, they are heartless they are a million other things, but I refuse to credit them with an intelligence that they don't possess.

 

[InterestedViewer]

Maybe, but the layovers are so much shorter than some of the other flights. Total trip hours aren't bad.

I did run across a website that gives historical information for flights. You have to register to get the info, but just an email address and password gets you in. When I entered the information for HPN to RSW on 2015-06-28, there is only 1 flight that comes up: JetBlue Flight #1251 - left at 7:30 a.m. and arrived at 10:26 a.m. Seems she must have flown out of another airport to return to Ft. Myers. When I plugged in the info for LaGuardia (approx. 1 hour away from Ansonia, CT, if that is where they stayed), there were 2 flights that arrived at 11:02 p.m. that Sunday evening (Delta and WestJet). Here is the link to that site: http://www.flightstats.com/go/HistoricalFlightStatus/flightStatusByRoute.do

 

[human]

When I fly Delta to the west coast, I always have to go from Little Rock --> ATL --> Vegas, SFO, wherever. 427 miles out of the way to the east coast to get to the west coast...that's Delta for ya. But hey, I get the Skymiles.

O/t. Let me know if those Sky miles work. I had to use 50,000 one year to go Mpls LA.

 

[Cymbaline]

When I googled flights from HPN to RSW this morning, I found this one. Not sure if it was available on 6/28 or not, but it sounds more in line with the time she arrived.

4:25 pm – 6:21 pm
Westchester County (HPN) – Detroit (DTW)
Delta 3702 · Canadair Reg. Jet
Operated by Endeavor Air DBA Delta Connection
Average legroom (31")

1h 56m



Layover in Detroit DTW
1h 34m

7:55 pm – 10:54 pm
Detroit (DTW) – Fort Myers (RSW)
Delta 1541 · Boeing 757
Average legroom (31")

2h 59m

Arriving at 10:54pm seems late.

JMO.IMO.MOO

 

[flgrl017]

Arriving at 10:54pm seems late.

JMO.IMO.MOO

I think she landed around then so it sounds about right.

 

[Dockins]

The last Delta flight out of LaGuardia landed 25 minutes early into Ft. Myers on the 28th of June. Flight 4319 landed at 10:37pm. Per flight tracker app.