TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #28

[Batbrat]

I have looked at this quite a bit, but I actually wondered if it was more of a frame skip than a true slip in the shoe. It goes from a solid black to the immediate lift of the heal being almost an inch off the ground, with no flow from low height to high. Not sure if I am explaining that right...

Yeah that is certainly a very real possibility. So much loss and garble in the video from all the ripping, copying, enlarging, compressing, etc etc etc, it's even likely that's what it might be.

 

[Batbrat]

if he BB was so concerned - (please don't make this out that I don't think a woman can take care of herself) but I am a woman and if my husband was concerned for my safety he would have made sure if he was out of town that someone was with me or followed to make sure I arrived safely. I don't care it it was a small town Population 10 he would insist at 4:30 am dark building at the edge of town. JMO

Yeah I think each family may be different. There are probably differences in generations and geographical locations, as well. I think my family and SO would never have someone escort me or follow me to assure my safety (unless I asked or they had permission). Count me as someone who would find that a little patronizing. But I do have older friends who would insist on it for their female loved ones. So everyone is different.

Also I'm not sure I understand what the difference in level of concern would be if he were out of town vs home in bed?

 

[11frogs]

yeah i think each family may be different. There are probably differences in generations and geographical locations, as well. I think my family and so would never have someone escort me or follow me to assure my safety (unless i asked or they had permission). Count me as someone who would find that a little patronizing. But i do have older friends who would insist on it for their female loved ones. So everyone is different.

Also i'm not sure i understand what the difference in level of concern would be if he were out of town vs home in bed?

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True

 

[11frogs]

Wel that's the interesting thing about people, they are all different. The way your husband would act is not the way everyone else's husband would act. Many people's loved ones express concern for their significant other if they are out by themselves very late at night (or in this case very early in the morning) without assigning a chaperone to them. Some people would think that's neglectful not to, and some people would thing that's controlling to do so, in a way that's frankly disturbing.

It is funny to me that a husband wanting to protect (not control or chaperone) his wife or say it was his teenage daughter that others find this disturbing (if I am reading your quote correctly).

I am just saying if BB actually warned MB that night (maybe she did say something to him about the weird messages or what had been bothering her) that he would want someone to go with her or someone to meet her there so she wasn't alone.

Of course all couples are different and when either one of us are out of town we call each other as well and I tell him to send his girlfriend home and he says did you have a nice dinner with your boyfriend and we laugh and say I love you and talk to you tomorrow.

 

[Hatfield]

Are you thinking that SP could have stolen the gear during the robbery at this gun shop? Their website listsclothing in addition to tactical and range gear, but I haven't looked for specific SP clothing. And I didn't see anything about LE supplies. The video footage just shows them grabbing firearms, but who knows?

Here's the website for the store that was robbed: http://www.webyshops.com/

Yeah was thinking perhaps they ran into some LE body armor supplies as they were leaving store and decided to grab it.

Thanks for link. I checked it out and didn't see anything like the helmet or jacket that they would carry. So unless it was special ordered by the store and happened to be labeled where they saw the gear then it doesn't look like it was acquired during the actual robbery.

I suppose we still have to keep open the possibility of 1 of them maybe being involved with the murder though.

If a hit man was hired by someone then its possible they ended up finding one of the robbers that offered to do the job.

They wore a lot of equipment so it had to have come from somewhere and if we can find out where he got the equipment
then its a huge hint who may have done this.

 

[erinp]

So there was the gun store robbery in Arlington in early April - a gang do a quick in an out, reported to have left in a black ford 250

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/04/band-of-gun-thieves-suspected-of-stealing-from-arlington-store.html/

Interestingly there was a smash and grab a month earlier in Houston, a gang of ten were in and out and got dozens of weapons

http://abc7.com/news/smash-and-grab-robbery-at-texas-gun-store-captured-in-dramatic-video/1228532/

It's believed they used a black ford 250 also

http://www.click2houston.com/news/surveillance-video-released-of-smash-and-grab-robbery-at-carters-country

 

[erinp]

Does anyone else see a suspicious gait at around 00:16- 00:20 or am i just seeing swatperp's waddle everywhere?

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Massive-Houston-gun-store-robbery-caught-on-6870204.php

 

[IQuestion]

Somewhere he also said that the trip was a bucket list trip.???

I didn't know bucket list stuff happened annually?

LILOLEME BBm???Thank you for your post. I have to agree, when I heard the words "bucket list" it implies a sense of finality to me. (I looked up the definition)
finality: the fact or impression of being an irreversible ending.
"the abrupt finality of death"

I don't know if I am reading too much into the words, considering he was thinking about his wife's death for at least a 6 hour return drive from Biloxi? Perhaps he really wanted to say, "It is every fisherman's dream trip." Even making that "excuse" in my head is still odd because who would think to explain it that way on the same day your spouse was found viciously murdered in a church? Who cares if it was on YOUR BUCKET LIST....we are talking about your wife's death. Not your leisurely pursuits!
Apologies in advance if my open thoughts offend anyone. If I haven't offended you yet, please give it some time, I'm sure I'll get around to you eventually.:blushing:

 

[GumshoeLoves]

Does anyone else see a suspicious gait at around 00:16- 00:20 or am i just seeing swatperp's waddle everywhere?

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...uston-gun-store-robbery-caught-on-6870204.php

Yes! Very similar gait. This should be checked out by LE to see if there could be a possible connection.

 

[rodee34]

I hear you, and while I may have some suspicions about what the SW states, they're only suspicions, and fueled mainly by assumptions, and so I try my best to resist them without further evidence. So too with the opinions of folks who are interviewed, even on superb shows like Tricia's.

With total respect... Of course people will question motives, alibis, etc? You can resist anything that doesn't seem reasonable... but you might need to consider and be open minded that it might play a part in solving this murder. Nothing here is black & white.

 

[WannaBDetective]

1. No, I do not think we have enough video or the capability to diagnose SP's problem. BUT, LE did specifiy their opinion in the AT&T Target Numbers SW page 8: "...The footage also indicates that the suspect has a distinct walk that is indicative of some type of injury which effects the right leg/foot. ..." This is what they chose to release to the public. For the public to limit their thoughts to a suspect who broke their foot two years ago is.. inadequate.

2. I stood back and watched your Back Gif again. Changing my observation - as the body weight is on the right foot (moment of hellstrike of right foot, which looks to be placed flat footed), the torso does dip to the left (shoulder), #1 as the Back Gif first opens, and #2 in the next step, but then it is not noted in the #3 final step. I cannot see this movement in the Front Gif. SP refuses to comply with textbook explanations!

So I wake up in a cold sweat early this morning. My iPhone in my hand. My head on the pillow. The vision of green guy walking simultaneously toward me and away from me. And I am immediately struck by two things.
1. When this goes to trial (assuming they don't move it too far away to find An untainted jury pool). i will lose my job.
2. Green guy is Gilligan.

 

[Batbrat]

So I wake up in a cold sweat early this morning. My iPhone in my hand. My head on the pillow. The vision of green guy walking simultaneously toward me and away from me. And I am immediately struck by two things.
1. When this goes to trial (assuming they don't move it too far away to find An untainted jury pool). i will lose my job.
2. Green guy is Gilligan.

This made me laugh way harder than it should have.

The irony is I have similar concerns that once thus goes to trial, the jury will be thinking "Hang on a minute. The defendant isn't a short, chubby, woman with almond-shaped eyes!"

 

[WannaBDetective]

It is funny to me that a husband wanting to protect (not control or chaperone) his wife or say it was his teenage daughter that others find this disturbing (if I am reading your quote correctly).

I am just saying if BB actually warned MB that night (maybe she did say something to him about the weird messages or what had been bothering her) that he would want someone to go with her or someone to meet her there so she wasn't alone.

Of course all couples are different and when either one of us are out of town we call each other as well and I tell him to send his girlfriend home and he says did you have a nice dinner with your boyfriend and we laugh and say I love you and talk to you tomorrow.

1. In this part of the country (tx) chivalry is still pretty active (I've lived all over the country). 2 I also look at the person in that situation. I've got two teenage daughters. One is very street smart and aware. I trust she would be very aware of her surroundings and self-regulates herself to stay out of trouble. The other is totally trusting of everyone and always has a song in her head and is generally oblivious to what's going on around her. I spend a lot more time talking to and monitoring her than the other. From what everyone has said. Missy was the latter. Her brother at her wake said she was naturally (over) trusting (paraphrased). That may have played a roll in his concern

 

[Estelle]

I have often wondered

1. How long MIssy had been conducting these groups at this time in the morning?

2. How necessary it was for her to conduct them so early when the participants live locally and probably have to get to work by 9am? Surely they could have been conducted about 6.30am still leaving enough time for the participants to get home shower, have breakfast and get to work as it is a small town.

3. I also think that it would have been wiser for her to have had a male co-leader with her at that time of the morning.

4. I know of nowhere else in the world that such camps would have been conducted at that time in the morning. Please correct me if I am wrong as i live in Australia. Most of your groups are conducted after work.

 

[WannaBDetective]

This made me laugh way harder than it should have.

The irony is I have similar concerns that once thus goes to trial, the jury will be thinking "Hang on a minute. The defendant isn't a short, chubby, woman with almond-shaped eyes!"

You know I did that for comedic effect. Greatly admire your work. It made me reconsiderably my notions on SP. I agree on your slimming the perp down considerably While conceding him/her is taller,I'm capping him/her at 5'9 to 5'10. I think u maybe off either on door sizes; height and angle of the lens. I'm an inch from taking my tape measure in there. I'm gutsy but that could cause trouble. Thinking of a scheme to get in there (you know they're looking out for us.). Maybe deliver them some Pizza and grab couple measurements on the way out. Have two people show up in nice suits (u don't get questioned as much). Wondering if the building is always open during the day.

 

[dizzychick]

Something hasn't added up on the secretiveness of LE from the get-go. Last night on the news, they announced they are releasing the transcripts from Orlando shootings TODAY--- here we are over TWO MONTHS later and they are sitting on them in this case. And the Orlando one is a more high profile than this one.

they also have more surveillance video as well like one is seeing Missy pull up and enter the church, wonder why they havent released all of it, what difference does it make?

 

[dizzychick]

Add steroids in also. I have previously stated n eaier posts about steroids are widely used in the gym/bodybuilding world. The "cop bust" had the illegal guns and steroids.......

yes those anabolic steriods cause "ROID RAGE" google all the body builders who killed their entire family while on that stuff, also makes your face looked deformed...

 

[WannaBDetective]

I have often wondered

1. How long MIssy had been conducting these groups at this time in the morning?

2. How necessary it was for her to conduct them so early when the participants live locally and probably have to get to work by 9am? Surely they could have been conducted about 6.30am still leaving enough time for the participants to get home shower, have breakfast and get to work as it is a small town.

3. I also think that it would have been wiser for her to have had a male co-leader with her at that time of the morning.

4. I know of nowhere else in the world that such camps would have been conducted at that time in the morning. Please correct me if I am wrong as i live in Australia. Most of your groups are conducted after work.

1. Since January at this location.
2. They're also catching people with non-Traditional hours. The First Responders, for example. Many in Mdln work in the Dallas Metroplex. Texans drive a LOT. It's nothing for them to drive 45 minutes or an hour to work.
3. Yes. Yes it would have been wiser. My wife works as a music director for another church here in the area, she'll sometimes rehearse bands and musicians till 10 or 11 at night. We discussed it and she's never the last one left in the building. A guy stays and exits the building with her to her car. Be careful what you say on that topic. There's a contingency on the blog that feel that trying to protect women is demeaning to them.
4. America in general (and TX in specific) is a culture of extremes (the saying around here is "everything is bigger in Texas") If you were to visit, you would walk away with the premonitions that everything is done to extreme (compared to Aus and most other countries). The people are proud and independent (which isn't better or worse, just who they are).

 

[Eloise]

I have often wondered

1. How long MIssy had been conducting these groups at this time in the morning?

2. How necessary it was for her to conduct them so early when the participants live locally and probably have to get to work by 9am? Surely they could have been conducted about 6.30am still leaving enough time for the participants to get home shower, have breakfast and get to work as it is a small town.

3. I also think that it would have been wiser for her to have had a male co-leader with her at that time of the morning.

4. I know of nowhere else in the world that such camps would have been conducted at that time in the morning. Please correct me if I am wrong as i live in Australia. Most of your groups are conducted after work.

I live in Sydney and there are bootcamps and early gym classes that run at 5.30 around here. They have to because so many people have a long commute to their job because of traffic or having to take multiple forms of public transport. The gym I used to go to had its first class start at 5am and thats when my partner used to go (he works out at home now) becausw it was the only time he could because of the long hours at work and commuting. It makes for a very long and tiring day it's true.

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[Seriously?]

It is funny to me that a husband wanting to protect (not control or chaperone) his wife or say it was his teenage daughter that others find this disturbing (if I am reading your quote correctly).

I am just saying if BB actually warned MB that night (maybe she did say something to him about the weird messages or what had been bothering her) that he would want someone to go with her or someone to meet her there so she wasn't alone.

Of course all couples are different and when either one of us are out of town we call each other as well and I tell him to send his girlfriend home and he says did you have a nice dinner with your boyfriend and we laugh and say I love you and talk to you tomorrow.

You know, cell phones are a wonderful piece of technology, aren't they? Heck you can send a quick text to say "landed", or "home" or "leaving now" or "got here safely".............don't get to hear the girlfriend scurrying around giggling, but hey :hand: Of course I realize we're all different and not trying to get something started. Probably some will find it disturbing that that 's our rule.