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Why don't you?
This case has me so tied up in knots, I could scream! AG Mike may be in chg, but I get the feeling Charlie may be less than willing to share new info with him, if there is any! I see no problem with Dateline, but they have been working with Lori's family, (Heimer case) for months now, and still there has not been an episode. The SCSD stated after the murder, there was "tons of physical evidence", and still no arrest. And the reward is roughly $37,000.00. There was an oil rig explosion in SE Kansas in '05, and it was determined it was deliberate, somebody had tampered with the rig. Two guys were killed. There has been a $50,000.00 reward from the week it happened, and to my knowledge, there hasn't been one peep...
If Dateline has been working with families for a long time with no success, then the problem seems to be with LE. Most good police departments would welcome more public awareness of unsolved murder cases. It's odd. Is it a problem with local prosecutors? Maybe some think they should only arrest people when there's DNA evidence connecting them to the case. That shouldn't be necessary. I could understand problems or delays if these were big cities, where investigators and prosecutors have many more murder cases to investigate. But it's odd seeing this in rural areas.
I agree. I live in a small town. The police chief and most of the officers are kids who went to school with my son. They played basketball in my driveway after school. They never went to college or had any special training and trust me these boys are not anywhere near the top on the intelligence scale. The last murder in this town was in 1952 so they had absolutely no experience in solving a murder.
Last year someone broke in and killed a man to steal his pain pills (oxycontin). It was late at night (about 1:00 AM) and no one saw a thing because most people here are in bed by 10:00PM. The police were called and within two hours they had suspects. Within three hours they had arrested one who told what happened and who was with him when it occurred. By the time four hours had passed both suspects were arrested and on their way to county lock up.
The police here are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they know their town. They have lived here since the day they were born. They know who does drugs and who doesn't. The Chief told me the way they solved it was they started rousting known oxycontin addicts and asking them who did it.
I don't know how long Sheriff Reader has lived in Pike county or where his deputies are from but it seems to me they should know who buys pot and other drugs.
This crime should have been solved within a day. I agree that Sheriff Reader seems to be doing all he can to sweep it under the rug.
Then LE has to find a way to minimize that threat. Its counter-productive for them to allow innocent families and friends to sit there with little or no protection, while badgering them to give any information they may have. IMO, this is why they've placed the surviving children in foster care - because they know surviving family members are at risk of retaliation.
And if LE "knows" who did this but can't build a case, then they need those tips from the public. That's how you gather evidence, if you're looking for evidence. A reward is normally how LE gathers the evidence they need - witness testimony, tips about perp activity, suspicious behavior, possible places where incriminating evidence was disposed of, etc. You get that with a reward, it doesn't just magically appear.
LE has deliberately created a stalemate in this case. No one can talk, no potential informants are protected, everything related to the case is locked away from public access, no incentives are offered to help gain new evidence. No updates or new information for the news media. No solicitation for help from the public. It's a closed loop. All avenues to solve these murders have essentially been blocked by LE.
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Then LE has to find a way to minimize that threat. Its counter-productive for them to allow innocent families and friends to sit there with little or no protection, while badgering them to give any information they may have. IMO, this is why they've placed the surviving children in foster care - because they know surviving family members are at risk of retaliation.
And if LE "knows" who did this but can't build a case, then they need those tips from the public. That's how you gather evidence, if you're looking for evidence. A reward is normally how LE gathers the evidence they need - witness testimony, tips about perp activity, suspicious behavior, possible places where incriminating evidence was disposed of, etc. You get that with a reward, it doesn't just magically appear.
LE has deliberately created a stalemate in this case. No one can talk, no potential informants are protected, everything related to the case is locked away from public access, no incentives are offered to help gain new evidence. No updates or new information for the news media. No solicitation for help from the public. It's a closed loop. All avenues to solve these murders have essentially been blocked by LE.
I left a message on the Dr. Phil show about 5 months in, but never got any response back.
There are so many people who could be trying to help get this solved, and are sitting on their thumbs instead, nobody can keep count! I'd still like to hit Charlie in the face with a big, sticky pie. He seems to be more interested in making the gen pub aware of how well he has protected the crime scenes so everybody will be patting him on the back instead of wanting to stick their boot up his behind. Charlie seems to think that as long as he can talk about how hard he is working on this case, people will believe he is trying to solve it. I, for one, have given up on him, and the rest of the PCSD. And, I don't care how long he worked for Rob Junk. After the mess made by JJ, and Junk's attempt at making light over that situation, at least that's the way it appears to me, I have doubts he could catch and convict somebody of stealing their neighbors cat...
I agree. If LE had evidence of who did this, an arrest or arrests would have been made by now. The fact that this has not happened to date indicates to me they do not have the evidence they need and anyone who could provide information is absolutely terrified to come forward.
It is very hard to understand why a substantial reward has not been offered for information! Is LE offering to provide protection to those who come forward with information? They need to do both things, IMO.
It is also very hard to understand why LE and the AG have gone silent on this horrific crime with no updates, press conferences, etc. This is not going to go away. Justice needs to be served and the public needs to be protected.
BBM
I tend to disagree. Unless they have concrete evidence then they can blow the case. They only have one chance to get it right. They have to have all of their ducks in a row. If they don't, they'll walk. No one wants that. Just b/c they have evidence at one location, doesn't mean it's at all four locations. This is a very complicated type case, I'd say, for an LE Dept. in a small town, which makes me wonder why they're not more involved with outside folks who have the knowledge and technology to aid in this. With that said, I don't know if they know who did this or not. One day I feel that they do, then another day I feel that they've no clue.
I keep flip flopping on thinking they know and thinking they have no idea who done this.
It is hard to believe no arrests after this length of time if they do know.
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It could be that they have some sort of evidence but it may not be of any use to them at the present time. A couple of young guys were murdered, in their home, not far from where I live. They were young, selling drugs, partying, etc... The assailants went there with the intention of stealing the drug supply, but something went very wrong, and, instead, they murdered the two guys who were dealing. One of the assailants was still in high school, and one of the victims had not been out of high school very long. There were tip lines, billboards, reward money, it was kept in the public eye. Two other young people were there but they couldn't describe the assailants. LE had an idea of who it might have been, but the only evidence they had was a bit of DNA evidence, on a piece of fabric. At the time of the murders there were no matches in the registry. This case went on for at least 6-7 years, until one day a match popped up in the DNA database. When they brought that one in, it wasn't long before that one sang, and they pulled the others in. Even though that's a long time, they did get them in the end. A lot of us thought they'd never catch them. It was in a rural area, at night, no one noticed anything, nor heard the more than 20 shots fired, but they eventually got caught. They messed up down the line. Sorry for the long post, but, it might take 7-8 years even if they do have an idea of who did this. Hopefully it won't though. I've told this before, but, when I get to feeling hopeless about this case, I think about the two boys just a town over, whose families finally got justice.
BBM
I tend to disagree. Unless they have concrete evidence then they can blow the case. They only have one chance to get it right. They have to have all of their ducks in a row. If they don't, they'll walk. No one wants that. Just b/c they have evidence at one location, doesn't mean it's at all four locations. This is a very complicated type case, I'd say, for an LE Dept. in a small town, which makes me wonder why they're not more involved with outside folks who have the knowledge and technology to aid in this. With that said, I don't know if they know who did this or not. One day I feel that they do, then another day I feel that they've no clue.
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I agree.
I misspoke earlier. The murder here was in late 2015 not last year. (With old age comes a declining memory. lol)
When I talked to the police chief here he told me the murder of a resident in his town shocked him and his officers to the core. He said it was the biggest thing that ever happened here and he was determined to bring in the killer as soon as possible before they killed someone else.
I asked him what happened he told me that the first suspect they picked up confessed. He said they were in the drug store when the man filled his prescription for the oxycontin and followed the victim home. He said they waited until they thought the victim was asleep and broke into his house, but the victim was awake watching TV with the lights off.
The police here started with no clue of who committed the crime since the victim was an older man who did not know his killers. But as soon as they arrived on the scene the victims wife was already there (she discovered him when she came home from work at 1:00AM) The police called in the state crime investigators who brought in a forensic team. While the state boys were going over the crime scene for evidence the wife told them about the missing pills. The chief put every officer he had out in the street questioning known addicts.
He said they picked up every one they knew who had ever been arrested for drugs and started asking who they thought would break into a house to steal pills. He said they found someone who gave them a name of a man who had been talking about that very thing. The rest is history.
This murder happened a few months before the Rhoden murders. Both suspects plead guilty to first degree murder and are now locked up for life.
There is no reason why Sheriff Reader could not do the same thing as our Chief here. He says he has an idea who killed the Rhodens. So start picking up their family and friends and associates and put pressure on them to talk.
There are three unsolved crimes of murders in Pike county that are very similar. I think they are all connected as well as the Eapmons. I also think there is no way Sheriff Reader does not know who is behind them all. But maybe he is too afraid of them to act on what he knows. JMO