Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #13 *Arrest*

[KaaBoom]

My issue with him waiting for age to get married is that he is already married!! Can't do it again without getting rid of the first, right?

His wife has already filed for divorce. It should be final by the time they get to that point.

 

[KaaBoom]

I'm in CA easy to get a fake passport.

1. That would cost more money than TC could afford. 2. It's not that easy. If it was terrorists would be able to travel wherever they want.

Fake passports, would cost $1,000 to $2,000 each.

The Cost Of Fake Passports On The Dark Net

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Still thinking about Elizabeth. Wondering what Easter will be like. I am sure it will be double hard for her to be away from her family on the holiday.

 

[jnblsm]

( :lurk: )

I freaking love you.

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[jnblsm]

Yes of course not. There would only be proof if they confirmed it, we actually witnessed them having sex, or she became pregnant by him. What we do have is tons and tons of evidence.

Just ask yourself this: would a man take a risk like this for any other reason than that he was getting laid?

I honestly can't answer that question.
I'm not a 50yo man that kidnapped an innocent 15yo girl.
I'm known here for playing the Devil's Advocate.
Believe me, I'm on your side. Just trying to figure out another reason that could make a "tad" bit of sense.


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[1HogFan]

Did anyone ever contact any Park and Recreation sites? I am going to send an email to each state and just wanted to know if there were some that were already done.

Arkansas is done. [emoji6]

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[Hatfield]

I honestly can't answer that question.
I'm not a 50yo man that kidnapped an innocent 15yo girl.
I'm known here for playing the Devil's Advocate.
Believe me, I'm on your side. Just trying to figure out another reason that could make a "tad" bit of sense.


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LOL

Catching up. I got a kick out of your reply with "tad" bit of sense. LOL

We have to have a little humor in this sad case.

IMO I do think its pretty obvious what his real motive was in taking off with her. There really is no other reason he would have left for good like he has done and being spotted in Walmart disguises. He even made inappropriate comments with another student in the past about another girls looks.

If he really just wanted to help ET then he could have helped her by staying home in town and working alongside with his wifes support and the school and child protective services and all the legal ways to provide protection for the girl.

He chose to sneak off and leave with her and there really is only one motive he would have in doing that. Even ET showed she was a little scared of him at times.

 

[Hatfield]

I think doctors get information about the rx they write and are filled. So the doctor woukd know how many months were filled, cash or not.

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This is a really good way for LE to try to track them.
Tracking them through the pharmacy benefits and health insurance benefits is a great angle that LE needs to try.

Wherever they go to try to get medicine may have a record against his past insurance benefits.

Even if you tell the pharmacist that you dont want to use your benefit card a lot of those systems automatically try to see if your benefits apply.

Now I wonder if that is how they made the connection to the Walmart in okc. Maybe they were able to see that his benefits card was accessed against his benefits. Some Walmarts have a pharmacist type area.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Teacher Accused of Kidnapping 15-Year-Old Student Is Running Out of Life-Saving Meds: Authorities w/video

by Deborah Hastings 8:42 PM EDT, April 12, 2017

Pharmacists across the country have been urged to be on the lookout for a 50-year-old former teacher charged with kidnapping a 15-year-old student, because the man’s blood pressure medication is running out, authorities said.

Tad Cummins allegedly abducted Elizabeth Thomas on March 13 in Tennessee. The last public sighting of the pair was two days later inside an Oklahoma City Walmart, where surveillance cameras captured images of the two shopping...

http://www.insideedition.com/headli...ng-out-of-prescription-medication-authorities

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I have read through some of the threads and comments on this case, so I must just ask one simple question. There have been tons of people speculating that they went to Canada, Mexico, or Central America.

Do you all really, actually believe that these two have passports? I would be frozen in shock if ET did. How the hell are these two going to get to any of these places without a passport?

No, if you go back through the threads, one theory is they have crossed over at one of the many places at the Mexican border that doesn't check for passports.

Another idea mentioned is maybe when TC and Elizabeth were exchanging social media messages that were hashtagged #missioncompleted, #missionalmostcompleted etc., they were talking about securing IDs.

Because they got a jump on Amber Alerts, they could have--theoretically--crossed the border using their own IDs before many were looking for them. Or, if they arrived later after Mexican authorities had been notified, they could have used IDs lifted from friends or family, for example. If they did have passports like this, then they could cross into other countries from there.


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[Deleted member 155000]

1. That would cost more money than TC could afford. 2. It's not that easy. If it was terrorists would be able to travel wherever they want.

Fake passports, would cost $1,000 to $2,000 each.

The Cost Of Fake Passports On The Dark Net

Either one could also borrow the passport of a family member or friend or apply for one in their name.

I don't know how likely this is, but as I have said before, if for some reason I felt the need to flee my entire life, run from the law, and start over somewhere (which I can't imagine), I would absolutely find someone else's passport I could pass as.

If they crossed then border separately, even with 20 people in between them, I think there'd be less chance of being noticed.


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[Daisy47]

Good Morning America interview with TC's wife and daughters this am.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-ten...apping-student-daddywe-home/story?id=46782948


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[possumheart]

I am astounded that it has been a month now. I thought they would tire of each other's company sooner than this. I wonder how the money is going. Just the normal concerned thoughts

 

[SolwayFirth]

Also, this was not a spur of the moment thing. This was planned, and to what extent I don't think we really know. But obviously planned well, because they're still out there...

 

[Deleted member 155000]

The FBI specialist in the Good Morning America episode said, that "of course they could have" crossed into Canada or Mexico. He said there are remote places where it's possible to cross.

He is speculating, of course.

And Holy Smokes, JC says she loves him and forgives him, but can never trust him. While his girls try to encourage him to do the right thing by offering support and reminding him of a scripture verse he often talked about with them while growing up.

JC also said she didn't know about TC and Elizabeth's relationship and neither did anyone else bc Tad had always liked everyone and was often helping others etc.


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[pegs]

On the meds thing.... if he had 12 refills and didn't use his insurance he could fill them all at once.

I did this last month at Costco. 12 refills and it was $16 a month or $36 for the year worth! So I just got a year worth.

It's totally possible he could have plenty of meds to keep him going for a while.

I wonder if he did this though? I think LE would know and maybe wouldn't have issued the be on the alert to pharmacies. I'm hoping he didn't know about it. It would be nice to get a fix via a refill somewhere.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I wonder if he did this though? I think LE would know and maybe wouldn't have issued the be on the alert to pharmacies. I'm hoping he didn't know about it. It would be nice to get a fix via a refill somewhere.

It's my understanding the doctor would be able to track if any of the 12 refills were refilled. So I agree investigators would likely know if he had done this.


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[OtisC]

When you start comparing the risk and cost of fake passports and prescriptions, the less expensive and less riskier crossing a remote border into Mexico and into Central America seems.

As I talked about mission trips with friends this morning, it reminded me of how familiar you can get with a country through a mission trip. You don't see the sights and activities made just for vacationers. You actually get immersed in the everyday life of people in the country. Revisiting people and places from my memory has me strongly considering Honduras as a place of destination for Tad. If I am not mistaken, he was on a mission team there. If not there, then, as I have been theorizing, somewhere similar in Central America.

The above is my opinion only.

 

[BIC]

Good Morning America interview with TC's wife and daughters this am.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-ten...apping-student-daddywe-home/story?id=46782948

Sad, just sad. I hope she is found today.

 

[MsArk]

Good Morning America interview with TC's wife and daughters this am.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-ten...apping-student-daddywe-home/story?id=46782948


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Per FBI specialist assuming this hasn't ended badly, we hope they will be found.

Give me goose bumps.