FL - Manhunt in Tampa after 4 slayings in 5 weeks, Oct-Nov 2017 #1

[neotec]

Interesting thought.
My City’s shot spotter is audio only. No cameras.

Here...check this out

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[ATasteOfHoney]

Here...check this out

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Thanks to you, I found out my City has had it installed over 7 years ago and has linked the system in with numerous surveillance cameras since then which is great. It is a very expensive system that has been partially Federally funded....the rest of the $$$ came from us taxpayers.
Crime really costs us; in more ways than one.

 

[x_files]

Thrill-killer? This is strange.

or gang initiation?

 

[x_files]

Instead of **playing cards**, the suspect or POI is a casino card dealer? There is a large casino in Tampa.

Just thinking out loud.......

or just a cocky guy who likes to fiddle, show off to appear cool?

 

[dotr]

Instead of **playing cards**, the suspect or POI is a casino card dealer? There is a large casino in Tampa.

Just thinking out loud.......

Drummer or DJ?
Two of the victims had some association with music.
imo.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Did anyone see something white sticking out the unidentified person's left back pocket in the surveillance video?

Apologies if this has been discussed or is irrelevant [emoji4]

Yes, some of us think it might be a cellphone, discussed earlier in this thread:

OK, I created a GIF of six seconds of the cctv video that police released. What's glowing in their pocket? Looks like they're also holding something. Do they have two phones, one in the back pocket and one in their hand? Could they be holding a weapon? Or are they not holding anything? Hard to tell due to the poor video quality.

gif: (link: https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J9PGdQtWz110e4w/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J9PGdQtWz110e4w/giphy.gif
https://giphy.com/gifs/l1J9PGdQtWz110e4w/html5

sources: https://youtu.be/hvlOtGLgL2U

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/is-there-a-serial-killer-in-tampa-1078179395828

[emoji202]MOO

 

[liz b.]

Yes, some of us think it might be a cellphone, discussed earlier in this thre




[emoji202]MOO

Could it possibly be an ipod ? Because to me she/he looks like a kid, but jmo

 

[CARIIS]

Had not been following -- I just saw the video and IMO it does look like a lady walking.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Could it possibly be an ipod ? Because to me she/he looks like a kid, but jmo

It could be. The iPod market has largely been devoured by the iPhone and smartphone market, by design. Not to say it can’t be one, though.

I almost responded saying something snarky like, “The iPod is Dead, Long Live the iPod!,” then stopped myself. I’m probably being classist by assuming anyone who’s a teen or older would more likely have a smartphone of some kind. Not everyone has that kind of money to spend! An iPod is far more affordable, and users can often still download apps and send iMessages, etc., depending on the model.

Thank you for reminding me to check my biases!!
❤️



[emoji202]MOO

 

[Flowercb]

Had not been following -- I just saw the video and IMO it does look like a lady walking.

Body language expert says that the way the perp runs is like a man runs (from heel to toe)--women don't run that way.

 

[bluesneakers]

Body language expert says that the way the perp runs is like a man runs (from heel to toe)--women don't run that way.

Who was that? Although I think the person in the video is a man running heel-to-toe is not exclusive to men.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I’m curious about the expert, too.

That’s kinda like saying “she throws like a girl,” IMO. I’m a feminine woman, and ran track and threw shotput/discus in high school. I also played tackle football with my cousins. To be crude, I also pee faster than most men I know (we make contests out of it on road trips - always have). I also excelled at tap, jazz dance and ballet. And marching band. Yet nobody ever said I ran, threw a ball or walked “like a girl.” They didn’t say I ran like a dude, either. I am told, however, that I still walk like a runner. I haven’t run in years.

I understand we’re all making assumptions based on our own educated experiences and backgrounds.

All that said, I, too, think the person in the video is more likely a male, likely a cyclist or runner. He/she has a distinctive, flop-footed gait (could be pigeon-toed), which I realize also seems contrary to being a runner. Seems like they would trip over their own feet during a sprint. But I’ve also noticed that cyclists, lifters, runners and often marching band/ROTC grads have distinctive, “heavier” gaits, as well. Both men and women.

Who knows. Everyone walks and runs differently, IMO. When this thread started, I think many of us were convinced it was a female. The more I watch the video, the less I’m convinced either way. [emoji21][emoji52]☹️

Body language expert says that the way the perp runs is like a man runs (from heel to toe)--women don't run that way.

Who was that? Although I think the person in the video is a man running heel-to-toe is not exclusive to men.

[emoji202]MOO

 

[marble]

Who was that? Although I think the person in the video is a man running heel-to-toe is not exclusive to men.

No crap. That "expert" needs to hand in their card. Foot strike has nothing to do with gender/sex and toe/heel strike varies even among the fastest distance runners. In general sprinters (of both sexes) land on their forefoot even at extreme slow jogging speeds. fwiw.

 

[Theforeigner]

The Human Behavior Expert Interview

Link to The Human Behavior Expert, Susan Constantine Perfido of The Human Behavior Lab interview:

In the video interview with Susan Constantine Perfid she stated that the POI in the videos probably is a man, and that due to the way he flips his smartphone, the POI might be someone who plays cards or is a bartender, here is a link to that video;

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/beha...-seen-near-seminole-heights-murders/486478247

 

[bluesneakers]

No crap. That "expert" needs to hand in their card. Foot strike has nothing to do with gender/sex and toe/heel strike varies even among the fastest distance runners. In general sprinters (of both sexes) land on their forefoot even at extreme slow jogging speeds. fwiw.

Agreed. Heel strike is not body language anyway. I'm female and a runner and usually strike forefoot first, but I got injured and started striking toe first. Which only led to more injuries! So then I switched to heel-to-toe. That's one gender, same person, three different patterns. I wonder what the expert would say about that.

Maybe the body language expert was making some kind of generalization about women wearing high heels.

Anyway, I think it's safe to say, no matter what gender the person on the video, he or she has a history of running and not just casual jogging but more like being coached to compete. I agree with the others who have said check local colleges and high schools. A coach would know that gait in a second.

 

[CARIIS]

I’m curious about the expert, too.

That’s kinda like saying “she throws like a girl,” IMO. I’m a feminine woman, and ran track and threw shotput/discus in high school. I also played tackle football with my cousins. To be crude, I also pee faster than most men I know (we make contests out of it on road trips - always have). I also excelled at tap, jazz dance and ballet. And marching band. Yet nobody ever said I ran, threw a ball or walked “like a girl.” They didn’t say I ran like a dude, either. I am told, however, that I still walk like a runner. I haven’t run in years.

I understand we’re all making assumptions based on our own educated experiences and backgrounds.

All that said, I, too, think the person in the video is more likely a male, likely a cyclist or runner. He/she has a distinctive, flop-footed gait (could be pigeon-toed), which I realize also seems contrary to being a runner. Seems like they would trip over their own feet during a sprint. But I’ve also noticed that cyclists, lifters, runners and often marching band/ROTC grads have distinctive, “heavier” gaits, as well. Both men and women.

Who knows. Everyone walks and runs differently, IMO. When this thread started, I think many of us were convinced it was a female. The more I watch the video, the less I’m convinced either way. [emoji21][emoji52]☹️








[emoji202]MOO

in the one just walking it looked like power walking !!!

kinda gave me the creeps.

and when i first saw my thought was my goodness if I saw that I would report it it just looked like a costume -- its not that cold down here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

looked much more like up to no good as opposed to out for exercise

 

[CARIIS]

I’m curious about the expert, too.

That’s kinda like saying “she throws like a girl,” IMO. I’m a feminine woman, and ran track and threw shotput/discus in high school. I also played tackle football with my cousins. To be crude, I also pee faster than most men I know (we make contests out of it on road trips - always have). I also excelled at tap, jazz dance and ballet. And marching band. Yet nobody ever said I ran, threw a ball or walked “like a girl.” They didn’t say I ran like a dude, either. I am told, however, that I still walk like a runner. I haven’t run in years.

I understand we’re all making assumptions based on our own educated experiences and backgrounds.

All that said, I, too, think the person in the video is more likely a male, likely a cyclist or runner. He/she has a distinctive, flop-footed gait (could be pigeon-toed), which I realize also seems contrary to being a runner. Seems like they would trip over their own feet during a sprint. But I’ve also noticed that cyclists, lifters, runners and often marching band/ROTC grads have distinctive, “heavier” gaits, as well. Both men and women.

Who knows. Everyone walks and runs differently, IMO. When this thread started, I think many of us were convinced it was a female. The more I watch the video, the less I’m convinced either way. [emoji21][emoji52]☹️






[emoji202]MOO

funny!!

I dont flame -

however in middle school I did not know that i threw like a girl for some time !!!!

Was very very fast so the jerks could never catch me tho





hehe

 

[bluesneakers]

in the one just walking it looked like power walking !!!

kinda gave me the creeps.

and when i first saw my thought was my goodness if I saw that I would report it it just looked like a costume -- its not that cold down here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

looked much more like up to no good as opposed to out for exercise

Up to no good but trying make it to look like every day power walk in the dark?

 

[Theforeigner]

What I find significant about the POI's way of walking
is that he never stretch his knees area fully,
his legs are never in a 90 degrees angle, his knees/hollow of the knees alway keeps a bit bendt,
and that gives him that specific kind of walk.

Anyone knows if there is something that cause that?
Anyone knows if there is a name to that kind of walk?

 

[dotr]

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160519-what-your-walk-really-says-about-you

• What your walk really says about you
  

We often think we can read someone’s personality from their gait – but while many of those assumptions are wrong, your walk may nevertheless reveal the one thing you are trying to hide.

• By Christian Jarrett

20 May 2016

If you saw a man walk into a bar with a John Wayne swagger, you might assume that he’s a confident, tough kind of guy. Or perhaps you’d have less polite thoughts. Either way, you probably wouldn’t be able to help yourself from jumping to conclusions about his personality based on his gait.

Psychologists have been studying these assumptions for well over three quarters of a century, and their findings suggest that most of us do tend to make very similar interpretations of other people’s personalities based on their walking style. After watching that wannabe cowboy walk into the bar, the likelihood is that you and I would agree about the kind of personality he has.

But how accurate are these assumptions? And what other kinds of characteristics can we read from someone’s gait? Chillingly, the best person to ask may be a psychopath.

The message from all this research is that we treat a person’s gait much like we treat their face, clothing or accent – as a source of information about the kind of person they are. It’s just that, whereas the evidence suggests our assessments are rather good for faces, we tend to make false assumptions based on gait.

Some of the earliest findings showed that men and women with a shorter stride, smaller arm swing and slower walk tend to be seen as more vulnerable (note the similarity to the older walking style found in the personality research). A rather disturbing Japanese study, published in 2006, added to this by asking men to say how likely it was that they would chat up or inappropriately touch different female students who were depicted in point-light displays. Based purely on the women’s gait, the men tended to say that they would be more likely to make uninvited advances towards the women with more vulnerable personality traits

research has shown that imprisoned inmates with higher psychopathy scores are particularly accurate at detecting which people have previously been attacked in the past, simply from watching video clips of them walking down a hall. It seems that some of the inmates were fully aware of this ability: the higher scorers in psychopathy specifically stated that they paid attention to the people’s gait when making their judgements. This tallies with anecdotal evidence. For example, serial killer Ted Bundy reportedly said that he could “tell a victim from the way that she walked down the street”.

This entire field of research raises the question of whether you can adapt your walking style to change the impression you give. Some research suggests you can learn to walk in way that sends a message of invulnerability – faster with a longer stride and bolder arm movements – and that women instinctively adopt elements of this style when in less safe environments

http://rebloggy.com/post/gif-mine-fashion-menswear-male-models-dolce-gabbana-d-g/73090448431