Found Deceased NC - Mariah Woods, 3, Onslow County, 27 Nov 2017 #3

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Not just the press conferences, but has there been any family present at either of the prayer vigils held the last couple of days? I'm honestly not judging, I'd be a basket case. Just curious.

I don't believe her either. I don't understand where the family is at during these press conferences? Where are you Mariah?
 
I personally do not consider a boyfriend and a girlfriend to be a victim. But I definitely consider the custodial parent to be a victim. Have you not seen the photos of the little girl; she was obviously treated like a princess. The custodial mother also took on the work required with the braces for the little girl.

I totally agree that all the pics that have been posted (which I believe were taken from mom's FB account for use on the missing posters) show a sweet, well-dressed, happy little girl. But social media isn't always the most accurate portrayal of real life. I'm sure all my FB friends would tell you I have the cutest, best behaved dog in the world, because I post a ton of pics of her curled up on the couch with a stuffed animal or acting goofy while playing with a ball. What they don't see is me yelling at her for the 100th time that she can't eat the UPS man, and I definitely don't post pics of me trying to wrestle a 120-pound dog off the fence as she tries to get over it to eat the neighbor's dog. No matter what the pictures look like, we have no idea what life was like behind closed doors for Mariah.
 
Bio-dad is slinging the mud.

I think he is allowed a little anger. His child is missing and he knows more than we do about the doings of his ex and her bf.IMO
 
Although new as a member to this site, I’ve been lurking since I found you shortly after Taylor disappeared. I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you for your dedication and tenacity to dig for the truth in these cases. I am most impressed.

What bothers me the most about Mariah, is that I know how the DSS “system” works in Onslow County. I worked EMS/healthcare there and saw injuries to children that were obviously from abuse, and DSS turned a blind eye. I know of several deaths that occurred after cases were opened by DSS and closed. It is very much a broken system.

Additionally, the area where this occurred is ingrained in my memory. I can see every location that is being reported, and with the trailer park, most of the residents aren’t on the right side of the law therefore making them VERY reluctant to speak up. The county is poor and this area poorer. There are extensive creeks and waterways throughout, all of which have the potential for alligators and large catfish. I’ve walked some of the area for land search training, and it is not forgiving (I was trained to search for missing people through the EMS services there).

Finally, in response to LEO on scene, the law enforcement community would call in specialists from the FBI and NCIS to assist for several reasons, most of which have been mentioned (specialty teams, federal property jurisdiction) and these organizations work hand in hand quite frequently, especially with NCIS. This will also allow access to more forensic labs, staff and equipment. The Sheriff, although not the best public speaker, is an incredibly competent and smart man. He worked with the FBI so he knows how to utilize resources.

If any of you have questions about the region, please don’t hesitate to ask. I am glued to this site for a glimmer of hope that she will be found alive.

Welcome to websleuths and the thread. Thank you for providing a local perspective of the area. I can’t imagine how difficult your job must have been I couldn’t do it.
 
Although new as a member to this site, I’ve been lurking since I found you shortly after Taylor disappeared. I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you for your dedication and tenacity to dig for the truth in these cases. I am most impressed.

What bothers me the most about Mariah, is that I know how the DSS “system” works in Onslow County. I worked EMS/healthcare there and saw injuries to children that were obviously from abuse, and DSS turned a blind eye. I know of several deaths that occurred after cases were opened by DSS and closed. It is very much a broken system.

Additionally, the area where this occurred is ingrained in my memory. I can see every location that is being reported, and with the trailer park, most of the residents aren’t on the right side of the law therefore making them VERY reluctant to speak up. The county is poor and this area poorer. There are extensive creeks and waterways throughout, all of which have the potential for alligators and large catfish. I’ve walked some of the area for land search training, and it is not forgiving (I was trained to search for missing people through the EMS services there).

Finally, in response to LEO on scene, the law enforcement community would call in specialists from the FBI and NCIS to assist for several reasons, most of which have been mentioned (specialty teams, federal property jurisdiction) and these organizations work hand in hand quite frequently, especially with NCIS. This will also allow access to more forensic labs, staff and equipment. The Sheriff, although not the best public speaker, is an incredibly competent and smart man. He worked with the FBI so he knows how to utilize resources.

If any of you have questions about the region, please don’t hesitate to ask. I am glued to this site for a glimmer of hope that she will be found alive.

Thank you for an excellent message. The beginning of your message has me very concerned. If you are personally aware of deaths, in the past, etc., then I urge you to report them to the Sheriff that you have confidence in. Bless you.
 
Sorry but can someone tip me off as to what ETA means please? I thought it was 'estimated time of arrival' but seems to mean something different on here. Thanks!

Edited To Add

As in, I'm going back into this post to add this:


:welcome6:to Websleuths, fighting_illini !! We're glad to have you here!!

:thewave:

 
Not just the press conferences, but has there been any family present at either of the prayer vigils held the last couple of days? I'm honestly not judging, I'd be a basket case. Just curious.

Believe me I am not judging them either, I just don't understand how they could stay away. I have read so many posts about the citizens speaking out, I just wonder why the family hasn't been present. That is a great question, I would love to know if there attended also. I would also be a basket case if one of my children vanished.
 
You just gave me a memory. When my sister in law was missing and presumed dead along with a bunch of others in a fire, all of us at the family assistance center stood up and gave the mayor a standing ovation at one point after one of her many daily updates. She grimly smiled, raised her hand as if to speak and rushed from the room, overcome.

She and LE and the fire department had been intensely criticized for their handling of the tragedy. But we who were waiting for notification knew they worked round the clock, knew the scene of the tragedy intimately, were giving us constant updates and constant warm support, spending time talking to everyone individually, holding our hands, praying with us, hugging us, making sure we had food or phones, handling our issues about names (some victims were trans for example) and publicity, etc., and doing it all on ZERO sleep. For days.

No one knows the hell they endure.

BBM- been thinking about that since I heard it earlier today. If she really did cover up for her bf abusing the son, what else would she be willing cover up for him?

From the Nancy Grace phone interview that was linked earlier, the bio father said that LE didn't know about him until he heard the Amber Alert and reached out to THEM. So according to him, the mother either had not mentioned at that point that the step father was not the bio dad, or that the bio dad lived relatively close to the area, or it hadn't come up/been asked about by LE.

Seems to be a bit of "I don't believe him, how dare you not believe her".

Agreed. BTW great name “bestill”

Why would it be okay to question the Bio dad's credibility but not the bio mother?

I guess if we want to get technical, no one has officially been named a suspect, correct?...so by Websleuths TOS, mom, boyfriend, dad, girlfriend are all equally "victims"

Mariah is a victim. I have my own thoughts about various other things....

I didn't claim to know....I restated what the father said which is that he contacted LE after the Amber Alert, not the other way around. Don't know if that's credible, much the same as how I don't know if anything said by any of the adults in Mariah's life are credible. JMO

Why was the bio Dad and his fiance been cleared by LE and the mother has not. I am not saying she is guilty but since the bio dad has been cleared officially then I believe what is coming out of his mouth. JMO

The true victim is Mariah! Where are you Mariah???

Can anyone direct me to the Mom's FB page? TIA.

Her Facebook page has been taken down.
 
I totally agree that all the pics that have been posted (which I believe were taken from mom's FB account for use on the missing posters) show a sweet, well-dressed, happy little girl. But social media isn't always the most accurate portrayal of real life. I'm sure all my FB friends would tell you I have the cutest, best behaved dog in the world, because I post a ton of pics of her curled up on the couch with a stuffed animal or acting goofy while playing with a ball. What they don't see is me yelling at her for the 100th time that she can't eat the UPS man, and I definitely don't post pics of me trying to wrestle a 120-pound dog off the fence as she tries to get over it to eat the neighbor's dog. No matter what the pictures look like, we have no idea what life was like behind closed door for Mariah.

You’re very right. The horrific case of ten year old Victoria Martens is a prime example of why people shouldn’t look at happy social media photos and think all is well at home. There is a photo of Victoria happy and smiling but it did not show she was suffering greatly from sexual abuse with her mother providing her and her sibling to sex offenders.
 
I know this is far fetched - but is it possible that something was left in the car from the trip that Mariah was used to sleeping with and she went outside to get it? Many years ago we went on family vacation got back -exhausted, fed kids daughter fell asleep at table went ahead put her in bed she was almost 4 at the time. At 2:30 in the morning our alarm goes off - she had managed to go down a flight of stairs and out the inside door to our garage, which is what set alarm off - she was trying to get her "bobo" a stuff bunny that we had left in the car - she always slept with it and I overlooked it when I put her to bed because she was already asleep - she woke up and wanted it. She didn't come get me she just was gonna go get it herself.
 
A thought why mom didn’t contact dad.....

My exhusband tried to take full custody of my daughter AFTER I left an abusive relationship. She was never abused, but I know she heard and saw things she shouldn’t have. Anyways it was months and months of courts and lawyers and we had to meet with a CFI (child family investigator) ... the ultimate ending was nothing changed. I left the guy and I still have all the same rights I always had... now that being said.... I recently had a roommate that assaulted my husband and I. He knew my husband since they were kids, he assaulted us with a pot. My poor daughter was home at the time and had to call the police.

Long story short I had to call her dad to let him know... I was absolutely scared to have to call him and admit our daughter was in danger as was my husband and I. He was very nice about it, but I didn’t know what to expect. (The guy is in prison for 5 years for assault with a deadly weapon)

I don’t know if mom is telling the truth or not yet... but that’s just another consideration


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Although new as a member to this site, I’ve been lurking since I found you shortly after Taylor disappeared. I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you for your dedication and tenacity to dig for the truth in these cases. I am most impressed.

What bothers me the most about Mariah, is that I know how the DSS “system” works in Onslow County. I worked EMS/healthcare there and saw injuries to children that were obviously from abuse, and DSS turned a blind eye. I know of several deaths that occurred after cases were opened by DSS and closed. It is very much a broken system.

Additionally, the area where this occurred is ingrained in my memory. I can see every location that is being reported, and with the trailer park, most of the residents aren’t on the right side of the law therefore making them VERY reluctant to speak up. The county is poor and this area poorer. There are extensive creeks and waterways throughout, all of which have the potential for alligators and large catfish. I’ve walked some of the area for land search training, and it is not forgiving (I was trained to search for missing people through the EMS services there).

Finally, in response to LEO on scene, the law enforcement community would call in specialists from the FBI and NCIS to assist for several reasons, most of which have been mentioned (specialty teams, federal property jurisdiction) and these organizations work hand in hand quite frequently, especially with NCIS. This will also allow access to more forensic labs, staff and equipment. The Sheriff, although not the best public speaker, is an incredibly competent and smart man. He worked with the FBI so he knows how to utilize resources.

If any of you have questions about the region, please don’t hesitate to ask. I am glued to this site for a glimmer of hope that she will be found alive.

Thank you and welcome to the group!
 
You’re very right. The horrific case of ten year old Victoria Martens is a prime example of why people shouldn’t look at happy social media photos and think all is well at home. There is a photo of Victoria happy and smiling but it did not show she was suffering greatly from sexual abuse with her mother providing her and her sibling to sex offenders.

( :( )
 
Although new as a member to this site, I’ve been lurking since I found you shortly after Taylor disappeared. I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you for your dedication and tenacity to dig for the truth in these cases. I am most impressed.

What bothers me the most about Mariah, is that I know how the DSS “system” works in Onslow County. I worked EMS/healthcare there and saw injuries to children that were obviously from abuse, and DSS turned a blind eye. I know of several deaths that occurred after cases were opened by DSS and closed. It is very much a broken system.

Additionally, the area where this occurred is ingrained in my memory. I can see every location that is being reported, and with the trailer park, most of the residents aren’t on the right side of the law therefore making them VERY reluctant to speak up. The county is poor and this area poorer. There are extensive creeks and waterways throughout, all of which have the potential for alligators and large catfish. I’ve walked some of the area for land search training, and it is not forgiving (I was trained to search for missing people through the EMS services there).

Finally, in response to LEO on scene, the law enforcement community would call in specialists from the FBI and NCIS to assist for several reasons, most of which have been mentioned (specialty teams, federal property jurisdiction) and these organizations work hand in hand quite frequently, especially with NCIS. This will also allow access to more forensic labs, staff and equipment. The Sheriff, although not the best public speaker, is an incredibly competent and smart man. He worked with the FBI so he knows how to utilize resources.

If any of you have questions about the region, please don’t hesitate to ask. I am glued to this site for a glimmer of hope that she will be found alive.

Welcome!! I did get the impression from social media surfing that this is a very poor area, and that a good many of the inhabitants of said area are on the other side of the law, which doesn't bode well for this innocent child :(.

I'm glad you joined.
 
Hi, I'm new here. This is happening just a couple of miles from my home and it breaks my heart. I have a couple of questions? Has anyone heard anymore about the impromptu trip that the mom and boyfriend took right before Mariah went missing. I heard something about borrowed luggage and was wondering if that had been investigated. Also does anyone know if they ever found someone who actually saw the child come back from that trip. If not..... my gut tells me that she is not in Jacksonville and that trip may have very well been to dispose of her.

Good post. It's always good to have a local person on a case with all of us.

:welcome6:to Websleuths, elaine !! We're glad to have you with us!!
:cheer::cheer:
 
I have not been able to catch up on some things that were posted in a thread yesterday. Was her clothing definitely found beside her bed and was that clothing pajamas? Could someone also refresh me on BF criminal background?
 
I have not been able to catch up on some things that were posted in a thread yesterday. Was her clothing definitely found beside her bed and was that clothing pajamas? Could someone also refresh me on BF criminal background?

BF criminal background cant really be discussed because he is not a POI.
 
Bio dad is "slinging mud" because he believes that it was not an abduction.

What reason would the mother have to sling mud (prior to bio dad slinging, I mean) since she believes her daughter was abducted.

Quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me to find that ALL parties have both mud to sling and mud to have slung in their direction, that's what keeps my mind open to several different theories/possibilities. I haven't ruled anything in or out and certainly don't trust any one person 100%.
 
I know this is far fetched - but is it possible that something was left in the car from the trip that Mariah was used to sleeping with and she went outside to get it? Many years ago we went on family vacation got back -exhausted, fed kids daughter fell asleep at table went ahead put her in bed she was almost 4 at the time. At 2:30 in the morning our alarm goes off - she had managed to go down a flight of stairs and out the inside door to our garage, which is what set alarm off - she was trying to get her "bobo" a stuff bunny that we had left in the car - she always slept with it and I overlooked it when I put her to bed because she was already asleep - she woke up and wanted it. She didn't come get me she just was gonna go get it herself.

Haha, you got a lil Ms Independent there don’t ya?

Thanks for sharing. That made me smile given the horrible thoughts and worries about Mariah.


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