Found Deceased CA - Blaze Bernstein, 19, Lake Forest, 2 Jan 2018 #6 *Arrest*

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What I am saying is that people are creating fake profiles portraying them as Sam.
Using pictures they took from his now deleted social media.
It certainly is possible that the Woodwards missed some accounts in the purge.
However, some (ifunny for example) popped up AFTER Sam was arrested.
Just want everyone to keep in mind that at this point we have no real way to prove if an account is legit or not.
It seems odd that there would be any incriminating ones left up.

What I'm saying is I viewed videos not pictures which are harder to fake as well as the dates on the videos are well in past way before the murder. They are archives after going back to look. The original accounts maybe taken down but there are archives out there.

Internet has a way of keeping history especially if someone committed a crime.
 
What I'm saying is I viewed videos not pictures which are harder to fake as well as the dates on the videos are well in past way before the murder. They are archives after going back to look. The original accounts maybe taken down but there are archives out there.

Internet has a way of keeping history especially if someone committed a crime.

Please make sure you pass the links on to law enforcement. They have requested information if anyone has it.
 
( BBM​ )

Thanks MsFacetious, you explained your thoughts well. You're viewing her actions from an angle that I am not. I still don't agree, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Catonahottineroof, you believe their attorney is behind all of it, and is pushing an agenda.

I can't see the deviousness on SW's parents' part that would have to exist for them to participate. I think their spirit is too broken.

After all, they were not caught embezzling large sums of money. They were not involved in a lucrative, illegal pyramid scheme. Those actions require deviousness.

They are the parents of a suspected killer.

Think about it for a few moments. What if it was your child? In light of the horrible crime, how would you feel?

We all want to believe it could never happen to us. But wonder if they thought that too?

MsFacetious, you talk about jaded. Actually I am jaded. Jaded and tired of society blaming everyone else for the behavior of another. ( Not meaning your words, but society in general. )

In my many years as a Psychiatric Nurse, I've seen so many wonderful parents who did everything right, yet their children turned out with dangerous character disorders.

There's no fool-proof prevention. No guarantees it won't happen to someone we love.

The person responsible for Blaze's murder should be the one held accountable for his actions.

I've stated my views enough, and need to let this go now.

I will continue to be right here though, cheering Blaze's family on as they strive for justice for him.

Blaze would be so proud of the courage and grace shown by his parents...



JMO
I agree!
 
What I'm saying is I viewed videos not pictures which are harder to fake as well as the dates on the videos are well in past way before the murder. They are archives after going back to look. The original accounts maybe taken down but there are archives out there.

Internet has a way of keeping history especially if someone committed a crime.

I’ve seen them as well.
 
What I am saying is that people are creating fake profiles portraying them as Sam.
Using pictures they took from his now deleted social media.
It certainly is possible that the Woodwards missed some accounts in the purge.
However, some (ifunny for example) popped up AFTER Sam was arrested.
Just want everyone to keep in mind that at this point we have no real way to prove if an account is legit or not.
It seems odd that there would be any incriminating ones left up.

All accounts quickly scrubbed. Talk of religion and church and Eagle Scouts. Deference to BB’s parents. One wonders if a fixer/image consultant is working with SW’s lawyer. I wouldn’t be surprised. This would make Olivia Pope proud. MOO.
 
Mrs. Bernstein has ask for a fair trial for her son, which is why she will not comment on evidence or the way Blaze was killed.

This is a high profile case and people in The OC wanted to circulate petitions to keep SW was getting bail. Emotions are high. And these same people are the jury pool for the trial. This case is being tried all over the Internet.

I want what Mrs. Bernstein wants, a fair trial for her son's murder so once he's convicted, all loopholes are closed and she never has to go through another trial and she gets the justice for her son's murder that she deserves.

From what I've been reading, SW has already been convicted in the court of public opinion.

I just hope they can find 12 jurors and 4-6 alternates who haven't already made their decision one way or the other. Just concerned is all. IMO
 
Me too, and until his next court date; what more is there to say?
I don't know about the rest of you, but I cannot get him out of my mind. All that should have been, is lost.
His teacher spoke of SW telling me much of what I needed to know. I haven't read one post online from a 'friend' of SW's. I'm feeling he was a loner, who held grudges; a man filled w hatred for who he really was.
I am still tearing up for Blaze, and his family. I will continue to do good. I'm planting a tree in his memory.

I've said this before if he was a loner, he must have been thrilled when Blaze called him up. I really don't think SW knew Blaze was gay, thus the outburst when Blaze kissed him on the mouth. What should have happened next is SW kicking him out of the car and driving off. I wonder why he was a loner, was he fairly new to the area. He mentions loving the South. Is that where they moved from?
 
From what I've been reading, SW has already been convicted in the court of public opinion.

I just hope they can find 12 jurors and 4-6 alternates who haven't already made their decision one way or the other. Just concerned is all. IMO

In this day and age any sensational/controversial case, will always be tried in the court of public opinion. This is just the sign of the times really with the internet. Not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.
 
I've said this before if he was a loner, he must have been thrilled when Blaze called him up. I really don't think SW knew Blaze was gay, thus the outburst when Blaze kissed him on the mouth. What should have happened next is SW kicking him out of the car and driving off. I wonder why he was a loner, was he fairly new to the area. He mentions loving the South. Is that where they moved from?

A lot of so called first hand accounts on the internet disagree. Media is reporting that BB himself said that SW made a pass at him in high school and wanted it kept secret and even said something to the effect of he texted others about it so "uh oh".


Now this is what the media is reporting at any rate.
 
Mrs. Bernstein has ask for a fair trial for her son, which is why she will not comment on evidence or the way Blaze was killed.

This is a high profile case and people in The OC wanted to circulate petitions to keep SW was getting bail. Emotions are high. And these same people are the jury pool for the trial. This case is being tried all over the Internet.

I want what Mrs. Bernstein wants, a fair trial for her son's murder so once he's convicted, all loopholes are closed and she never has to go through another trial and she gets the justice for her son's murder that she deserves.

From what I've been reading, SW has already been convicted in the court of public opinion.

I just hope they can find 12 jurors and 4-6 alternates who haven't already made their decision one way or the other. Just concerned is all. IMO

Are we thinking this is going to go to trial? I feel like Mendoza (SW attorney) will get him a lesser sentence - CA won’t kill him but death row is way worse than regular prison. So his attorney will explain his options - you either go to maximum security and get one hour of daylight per day while being locked up with a bunch brothers and cholos (gang members). Or you plead, get to go to a minimum security and make friends with white supremacists and find a boyfriend.
IMO.
 
A lot of so called first hand accounts on the internet disagree. Media is reporting that BB himself said that SW made a pass at him in high school and wanted it kept secret and even said something to the effect of he texted others about it so "uh oh".


Now this is what the media is reporting at any rate.

I don't know, it's really hard to believe anything.
 
Are we thinking this is going to go to trial? I feel like Mendoza (SW attorney) will get him a lesser sentence - CA won’t kill him but death row is way worse than regular prison. So his attorney will explain his options - you either go to maximum security and get one hour of daylight per day while being locked up with a bunch brothers and cholos (gang members). Or you plead, get to go to a minimum security and make friends with white supremacists and find a boyfriend.
IMO.

Or he will get an NGI, not guilty because of mental illness.
 
I don’t believe this was a hate crime. I think it was a self-hate crime.
I agree. IMO SW is a very unstable kid. I use the world "kid" not bc of 18 being the legal age of adulthood, but bc being barely 20 is still a kid in my book. This "kid" seems conflicted with who he was supposed to be and who he is. Obviously, his actions (still not confirmed but highly speculated as murder of BB), are undeniably wrong. But if there is mental instability with SW there are 2 victims. It's very hard to be objective when a projected murderer is possibly a victim...of his own demise. IMO

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I don't know, it's really hard to believe anything.

Understood.

Here is the relevant "text" information...

"Bernstein texted two female friends about a June interaction with Woodward, according to the affidavit. Bernstein wrote that Woodward was about to "hit on me" and "he made me promise not to tell anyone ... but I have texted every one, uh oh."

Taken from this source as I've not seen the affidavit link yet...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspec...nt-blaze-bernstein-was-hitting-on-him-report/
 
Kinda OT, and I probably misread. Benzos (xanax, klonopin, atavan, etc.) and opioids (oxycodone, tramadol, etc.) are two different classes of drugs. (And benzos are sometimes prescribed to treat opioid withdrawal.)

But your point stands and your warning is a good one, imo. Both are *highly* addictive, many physicians don’t understand the dynamics of addiction, and withdrawal can literally be deadly. I also agree, from experience helping family wean off longterm prescription benzo use, they indeed can cause allllllllll the symptoms you said.


If we’re theorizing on toxicology of S.W., I agree it’s conceivable that benzos, especially, could contribute to a violent episode. Someone upthread asked if he was tested when arrested. It would be interesting to know.

Good post and great points, RU. Thank you.


rsbm


You are absolutely right --Opioid epidemic and I list Benzos, duh.

For me they are like one and the same . In fact Benzos sneak up on you because you know opioids are addictive, never knew the same for Benzos I was prescribed Klonopin for Restless Leg Syndrome Took for 2 years lowest dosage, Doctor NEVER told me about addiction, and I am a recovering alcoholic. After seeing numerous Specialist thinking I had dementia, I find the horrible truth on line and am in my second month of jumping off. One month to taper.
I would not want anyone to go through the side effects when on them or the withdrawal process when tapering.

That is why I went OT to warn anyone out there never to take a Benzo or Opioid

Thanks for understanding my detour off topic. LOL!
 
Understood.

Here is the relevant "text" information...

"Bernstein texted two female friends about a June interaction with Woodward, according to the affidavit. Bernstein wrote that Woodward was about to "hit on me" and "he made me promise not to tell anyone ... but I have texted every one, uh oh."

Taken from this source as I've not seen the affidavit link yet...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspec...nt-blaze-bernstein-was-hitting-on-him-report/
Thank you. Did it indicate WHEN that text was sent after the interaction.

TIA
 
ok whatever. Travis Alexander did not deserve to die. Blaze did not deserve to die. Period.
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I am just frustrated with people inferring that an unwanted kiss is anywhere near the realm of justifiable to murder someone. No, 0%, not at all, it isnt, no argument.
IE: See post #758

I’ll probably shoot myself later for stepping into this, but, this just seems like such an obvious failure to communicate. I’ve got an idea of why, but, still, I can’t help myself and feel the need to try to clear it up for everyone.

1st: No One has said ANYONE ‘deserves to die’, because we ALL understand that NO ONE “deserves” to die, and their having been killed was a Tragedy!...a heinous crime...a terrible accident...whatever, depending on the “case” and ‘circumstances’, and not just in THIS case, but others...as Everyone deserves to live a happy and long life.

2nd: No one is victim blaming. It seems like that is how you are interpreting what they said. (Just give me a second and I’ll explain it below)

3rd: What they were saying is that Killers/Murders are NOT necessarily “logical”, and it isn’t uncommon in various circumstances, that are unique to THAT individual, for them to possibly have FLIPPED THE F-** OUT! No logic, No Thought, Just “Do”, then Afterwards, realize..’Holy Cow, WTH just happened & What the H*ll do I do NOW?!’ kind of a circumstance....some people just have “irrational fears”, that are just THAT...NOT logical, NOT rational..they make NO SENSE, and can even be something totally silly and harmless, and some people may not even know they have that level fear until something happens..and until something triggers their fear..

Perfect example of an “IRRATIONAL FEAR”: I have an irrational fear of fish/critters touching me when I’m in water..so,if I stand in water where I can’t see my feet clearly, especially if it is waist high, and something touches me, I flip out!...Usually, that involves screaming like an idiot and running to shore..*shrugs*...
Further example: At the beach w/my sister & family, ocean fishing (my 1st time), they finally after a few hours coaxed me out to waist high water (pretty far from shore, but my sis was there & her BF, so I tried hard to not be too scared and just go with the flow..peer pressure, yes)...we’re having a good time, chatting, fishing, I’m still a little nervous/slightly spooked but controlling it)..we’re laughing about dolphins in the distance...totally distracted and not feeling any fear...then something touched/brushed my leg/thigh underwater...Next thing I knew I had climbed my Sister like a telephone pole to get as much of “Me” out of the water as physically possible..My Sis was none too pleased and screaming for me to get off her, I felt like a Dumba** & knew I looked ridiculous, but my fear level had ratcheted up to 1200 watts and I just could ‘t bring myself to let her go even in the littlest bit..Her BF almost burst himself laughing, and my Sis eventually saw the humor...AFTER a friend came all the way from shore, and was kind enough to carry me back to shore in his arms (Out of the Water!), and then he too almost pee’d laughing.POINT IS?⬇️

Was it funny, yeah, later, but at the time, NO! All I know is that one second I’m standing next to my Sis fishing and laughing about dolphins, and the next, my pole was gone, anything else I had was gone, and I was as close as I could be, to standing on top of my Sister’s Shoulder’s/Back with as much of me out of the water as physically possible
..did I make the decision to climb up onto my Sister? NO!, the thought never crossed my mind, I don’t know even how/when it happened, I was “just there”..THAT is what everyone who has tried, has attempted to explain, that sometimes, even regular people (Swear I’ve never killed anyone), can “REACT” to a situation without thinking...period. And, being that scared of a fish or whatever even touching me is obviously stupid, and makes no sense, not like I’ve ever gotten bitten or that much out there even has the ability/teeth to bite, but, for whatever reason, my brain switches ‘off’ and ‘fight/flight’ instinct switches on, and I don’t get to decide, I just see the aftermath..THAT is an IRRATIONAL FEAR!...btw, this is a true story, my sister still endlessly & mercilessly teases me about it to this day..it happened a good 7-10yrs ago.


Hopefully, the whole “react” and not think, just “Do”, because XYZ happened....(whatever XYZ happens to be for that one person), makes more sense to you now🤞[emoji846] and before someone says otherwise, I am NOT taking anyone’s “side” I was just explaining a concept for clarity sake
...If not, then I too give up, but it was worth a shot to try and explain so everyone is on the same page.

Oh and all of the above is just my own views, opinions, theories, thoughts, interpretations, and occasional Big Fish Stories; unless otherwise indicated by a website URL or reference to a source.
 
Thank you. Did it indicate WHEN that text was sent after the interaction.

TIA

"Bernstein texted two female friends about a June interaction with Woodward, according to the affidavit. Bernstein wrote that Woodward was about to "hit on me" and "he made me promise not to tell anyone ... but I have texted every one, uh oh."

No the report doesn't indicate when. But the content of the text seems to relate that it was current "hit on" in June, texted in June ish just by looking at the text. I don't see much past tense but we'd need the text in full and time stamps to know for sure.
 
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