Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #49

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I would bet money tonight that, after hours of public comments on how they didn't mention their grandkids, tonight's interviews will have a different tone. I bet Bella and Celeste will be brought up with perhaps even a kind word tossed SW's way. I have no doubt that there are lurkers in the groups, on the forums, etc. and they're reporting back commenting on public perception. (Not blasting them from that. I'd probably do the same. As much as I wouldn't want to know what people were thinking, I'd kind of want to know anyway.)
 
violet101 said:
What I don’t understand is how the parents haven’t brought up the girls once in any of the interviews. Nothing about “we are devastated those innocent girls and soon to be grandson are gone and we are so sad etc. This is very telling to me. My parents and in laws care more about my kids than me and my hubby. Everyone’s whole world is revolved around the grand babies for my family. But not once did they mention their own grandchildren in any interviews.
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You took the words out of my mouth! Same in our family. The grandkids are everything. In fact we always joke how no one loves us anymore as everytime they come around its all about the kids.

To her, it seems all about her son. I get that given hes facing life in prison, but as you said there is absolutely no discussion on their grandkids, the pain they are feeling about them and the pain SW's family must be feeling...as regardless of what they believe, those kids were innocent. IMO, the lack of this talk shows the level of enmeshment between CW and his mother. He is her so to speak
 
NuttMegg said:
But they did hear it from him, we all did. The mother herself said she basically told him not to say he is guilty, then, she says, the Atty stopped her from saying more.
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Jennifer17 said:
BBM. They did hear it from CW in a court of law, no less.
They will never, ever accept it.
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The way I’m understanding it is they want a chance to talk alone with their son with nobody else present to interfere. In their minds CW’s attorneys have kept their son away from them. I could be wrong because I haven’t forgotten Jackie Peterson, who told Scott, “Deny, deny, deny,” but they haven’t had a chance to talk alone with their son for months. His father believed him when he said SW killed the girls and needs to hear directly from CW that he lied to him, SW didn’t do it, he did. And then they want to know what the trigger was. Would that satisfy them? I don’t know.
 
PommyMommy said:
There are two here: MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION - - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4

Another in this article: 'Not a monster': Chris Watts' parents defend son who murdered family
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Wow, that second article really seems to mirror her sons interviews. It's all about her; "I cry in the morning. I cry in the afternoon, I cry when someone gives me a hug. I just want to know what triggered it." She mentions several times she wants to find out what the trigger was ( what Shanann did to cause him to lose control) how she thinks she is more capable of this than her son. Then says he is not capable of it at all. Not one word about her grandchildren. Then she states that someone needs to do something to help him. A call to arms maybe? This is really adding fuel to the fire for his supporters. I wonder what they are saying now. No wonder his legal team kept her away from him. She is toxic. Imo
 
gregjrichards said:
If he didn't kill the children, I want him to face that and let them prove it': Chris Watts' parents say they want their son to take BACK his guilty plea of murdering his wife and two daughters

Chris Watts' parents say they want their son to take back his guilty plea | Daily Mail Online

I try not to judge the perpetrators family in tragic situations like this. No family wants to accept that their loved one is capable of a crime as heinous as this. They love their son and are in disbelief he could have done this and they have lost their grandchildren. They must be in a state of shock still at what has happened and are unsurprisingly having great difficulty accepting what has happened.
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They've expressed no grief over losing three grandchildren. They haven't mentioned the grandchildren. It's been all about Mama Watts and what she wants!
 
From what it looks like, NOBODY in this family should be doing televised interviews. Every one of them who's been interviewed has shot themselves in the foot and dug the hole a little deeper. Let's say the plea did get thrown out and he DID go to trial. How would the parents' interviews, which would undoubtedly be used, help? "He don't love her no more"? Yes. That's helpful.

Somewhere there's a crisis specialist and a publicist out there just chomping on the bit to wave around their calling card.
 
Jax49 said:
Why did CW take the plea deal? I have a couple of thoughts but am curious what others think.
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Because he didn't want to sit there during a trial and have all his secrets exposed. He wouldn't be able to manipulate or passively control the people on the stand and to have a parade of witnesses talking about his affairs and whatever else they dug up would just be too humiliating. IMO he is all about appearances.

(All of that is my opinion.)
 
Jax49 said:
Why did CW take the plea deal? I have a couple of thoughts but am curious what others think.
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Overwhelming evidence IMO. He never thought through his defence claim that SW harmed the girls, because he just made that up on the spot in the interrogation room when LE confronted him with irrefutable evidence he killed his family.

So, I think he just had no hope.

JMO
 
Layla123 said:
The way I’m understanding it is they want a chance to talk alone with their son with nobody else present to interfere. In their minds CW’s attorneys have kept their son away from them. I could be wrong because I haven’t forgotten Jackie Peterson, who told Scott, “Deny, deny, deny,” but they haven’t had a chance to talk alone with their son for months. His father believed him when he said SW killed the girls and needs to hear directly from CW that he lied to him, SW didn’t do it, he did. And then they want to know what the trigger was. Would that satisfy them? I don’t know.
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it will all be recorded.
 
liltexans said:
I am astounded that they couldn't even muster up ONE nice or kind of nice thing to say about their murdered daughter-in-law. Even something generic like, "Shan'ann was so good to her mother and was a great big sister to her brother."

Instead, they just criticize and bash and blame. Apparently their parents didn't teach them that speaking ill of the dead is not a good look, especially when the person has been murdered by your own son.
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If Wattses can talk in public like this, how must it be and have been, behind closed doors? smh

And their son is very much alive, the Rzucek's have only memories of their daughter and grandchildren! The Wattses can visit as many times as the prison allows, as many times as CW desires, no such thing for Mr & Mrs Rzucek! CW took it away and his parents can't accept it, it must be Shanann's fault! I don't think they'll accept CW is anything but a victim, a victim of Shanann's, the DAs office, the public at large. They aren't showing any sense of decency for the Rzuceks or their grand children, let alone Shanann!

Also, who cares what kind of relationship Mrs Watts had with Shanann? I mean really, is this the time to bring it up? Was it always being brought up?! Just appalling behaviour, they've lost touch with reality and maybe, their son didn't live in reality either! CW had 4 yrs before the girls came along, he could have run, those girls were for Shanann, imo, to keep her until he grew tired of playing happy families and wanted to erase them all. CW has been playing one against the other, what a manipulator! If he can't see his mother, there relationship isn't close, I don't think it's just about shame, it goes a lot deeper. jmo
 
PommyMommy said:
There are two here: MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION - - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4

Another in this article: 'Not a monster': Chris Watts' parents defend son who murdered family
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Wow - that video in the second interview. After the newscasters show the clip of CW parents, they talk more about the case and say there is a "letter" that CW wrote to his sister at some point and said, "If anything happens to me, look at my wife," and that the family says that proves Shanann was unstable. That is the first I have read/seen of this "letter." Have we discussed that at all here? (49 threads I may have missed!!)

ETA more detail: This is also the video where the reporter asks, "What happened to this kid from Pine Forest High School?" showing an innocent picture of CW. And his mother says, "What happened? He met Shanann."

The newscaster also says in the clip, that the Watts family felt that "Shanann was dangerous and that they didn't even go to the couple's wedding."
 
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Nessa131 said:
I totally agree with this- but if CW, the client, tells the lawyer not to tell his oarents anything ..... isn’t the lawyer then legally obligated to not tell them?
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I don’t think so. I think I read somewhere that ethically his attorneys are not allowed to discuss the case with anyone without CW’s consent. I believe CW is too big a coward to face them, but his parents aren’t ready to believe that. They think they have to fight for their son because no one else will.
 
mtnlites said:
General public sympathy might not get them what they want right now (a toss out of the plea), but it would still go a long way in helping them make other things happen. This is not the way to go about gaining it. Speaking ill of the dead, ignoring their grandkids in their interviews, just continues to drive a wedge between public perception of the family and the victims' family.
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No it’s not the way to go about this, but they’re striking me as uneducated and not very sophisticated in these matters. They’re desperate.
 
violet101 said:
What I don’t understand is how the parents haven’t brought up the girls once in any of the interviews. Nothing about “we are devastated those innocent girls and soon to be grandson are gone and we are so sad etc. This is very telling to me. My parents and in laws care more about my kids than me and my hubby. Everyone’s whole world is revolved around the grand babies for my family. But not once did they mention their own grandchildren in any interviews.
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YES!! I have actually watched the videos a couple times thinking I missed this and wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. Nope.
 
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