CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

[Cherokee]

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That would make sense. Friends asked him to haul their trash. That’s why they unloaded it.

Why would the police confiscate items out of other people's trash then go back to PF's property the very next day?

 

[NanZDrew]

I try to read all comments so I’m caught up. It took me hours tonight. I’m going to have to quit my job

I was thinking the same thing, Laholla.

 

[klind55]

Okay, my husband thinks I’m a certified freak! We too have a septic tank and I couldn’t remember the size of the opening considering we’ve only had it pumped 3 times in 21 years. I knew it was large, but I too had to confirm if it was large enough to fit a body it. He’s like “HUH”, it got him to look up from the TV though! Our septic is large enough for a body....we are not located in Colorado.

Lol!!

 

[Steelslady]

So, he went to the waste facility on Monday and they went back to his house on Tuesday?

I would like to know if the media saw him leave his own property with that truck and trailer attached to it. I find it so strange, with the media camped out near his property, that none of them have a video of him leaving with this trash?

 

[heartgoesout]

I lived in Teller country for about a decade. There's tons of old mine shafts all over...especially in places like Cripple Creek/Victor (about a 40 minute drive). As a local he'd know where they were too...and he had plenty of time to act before anyone knew anything was suspicious.

They found Erin Corwin...

 

[MassGuy]

Thanks! I'm 0-2 on this thread. :/

One more and you will be shunned for an indefinite period of time.

 

[Safeguard]

The ripple effect is horrific.
SMH.

moo

Few years ago I watched "I know My Name Is Steven" Movie about the Steven Steiner case, kidnapped at 7yrs recovered at 15yrs. And OMG did that movie ever lay down how the ripple effect plays out!

The ruination of so many, MANY lives, set into motion on that beautiful sunny morning. I had never seen it portrayed so effectively like that movie did it.

That really helped me put into perspective, that the ripple effect works the same way whenever we do something kind. Can even be those small everyday things...Stopping to let someone cross the street, or enter a road way, helping a neighbor, caring for a pet, or a child...simple everyday things have the ripple too. We can never really know how far and wide some some small act of good will has really spread.

Sorry OT a bit... but sometimes I wonder if this whole thing might have been SO different if someone, anyone had a spur of the moment type thought to do something nice for K and just dropped by...Just at the right time... I think about that in a lot these cases... The ripple effect...

 

[nwmouse]

Well, how about Bruce McArthur, a serial killer from Toronto, that buried his victims in flower pots on his property?

Please know, I am not saying that this happened with Kelsey, just saying, there are a few out there that do bury their victims on their properties!

Or feed them to farm animals (the pigs) like the Canadian serial killer Robert Pickton.

moo

 

[Cherokee]

Im confused.. What's the difference?

The dump is usually a place out of town in the countryside that is a huge pit. The trash is dumped into the pit and then covered over.

The Waste Management Facility (where PF drove the truck and trailer) is in a town and is an actual facility. From there, garbage trucks take trash that has been collected at the facility and then haul it to a dump site.

The particular WMF used by PF yesterday is in town and so close to other buildings and roads, it cannot be an open dumpsite.

Hope this helps.

 

[GoJacks]

I would like to know if the media saw him leave his own property with that truck and trailer attached to it. I find it so strange, with the media camped out near his property, that none of them have a video of him leaving with this trash?

I'm not sure they've been camped out there 24/7. I mean there's no video of the po po getting to his property today. Just leaving.

 

[klind55]

The phone went to Idaho. Doubt very much someone brought it back just so he could incriminate himself by putting it into the septic tank, IMO.

Quite honestly though when dealing with septic tanks and having almost a month go by I am not sure how much would be left of items that may have been thrown in a septic tank. Plastic and metal sure but as far as clothing and that type of thing I think it would be gone by now or pretty close.

 

[MassGuy]

They found Erin Corwin...

But they’ll never find Susan Powell.

It’s rare that LE gets that lucky.

 

[susiQ]

Just read this. They're saying that old unused septic tanks present a huge issue with people falling in. Wow. I learned something new today! Child falls into septic tank in Tewksbury; family warns of dangers

So maybe that was the location of an old unused septic tank?

So, did anyone witness an old septic tank loaded onto a trailer?

 

[Seattle1]

In rural areas where the community all uses the dump, they usually only require dump permit visible on your car and people aren't logged in or out.

The green totes left of the deck stairs look to be typical rubbish bins used with roadside collection service. By all accounts, PF made a special dump run with debris packed inside a trailer. If already packed in the trailer, can't imagine anything so important that it had to be disposed of today. As my dear Dad would say: don't borrow trouble. MOO

 

[SoBu]

If that’s what happened, someone very well could get away with murder.

Finding a body obviously isn’t a requirement, but absent compelling evidence here, it will be incredibly important to recover one.

If this is murder, of course.

Sadly, I had already been thinking that the terrain in that area could make it incredibly difficult to ever find a body.

 

[MassGuy]

Sadly, I had already been thinking that the terrain in that area could make it incredibly difficult to ever find a body.

It’s early yet, so you never know.

 

[LietKynes]

It would be interesting to know if he dumped any memorabilia of the two of them.
Very interesting.

 

[borndem]

I doubt it. That phone is probably somewhere in Idaho.

How did it get there -- an honest question, I'm not being snarky at all.
Do we think she actually got to Idaho alive and by her own independent actions?
If not, did PF take the phone or have the phone taken there?
Probably a moot point -- I think her killer (if she was indeed killed) probably smashed it to bits as soon as possible, or disabled it, or left it somewhere when the time was right so as to take the heat of off him and send LE in some bogus direction.

 

[MassGuy]

It would be interesting to know if he dumped any memorabilia of the two of them.
Very interesting.

It would, but that still wouldn’t be as telling as not reporting her missing or making an effort to find her.

It would just be more evidence that he doesn’t care.

And knows something we don’t.

 

[SoBu]

Why would the police confiscate items out of other people's trash then go back to PF's property the very next day?

On the chance that the “trash” may be relevant. They wouldn’t take those guys’ word for it that it’s not PF’s trash.

 

[Mom24]

Okay, my husband thinks I’m a certified freak! We too have a septic tank and I couldn’t remember the size of the opening considering we’ve only had it pumped 3 times in 21 years. I knew it was large, but I too had to confirm if it was large enough to fit a body it. He’s like “HUH”, it got him to look up from the TV though! Our septic is large enough for a body....we are not located in Colorado.

...as your husband quietly sneaks into the home office and changes the beneficiary on his will...and texts his friends that to check the septic tank if he doesn't show up for work tommorow....