John & Beth Dating

Gone today, and read the article again. It references their
involvement with the 'Nashville Speakers Bureau'.

Wondering IF IF JR invited other speakers to Charlevoix as
well, sort of a group thing???

The Enquirer issue the mailman never brought to me last week, I
bought today - the May 7th issue.

Interesting item in it.Page 24, Patsy's gravesite
finally has a headstone. The stone says, "Patricia Paugh Ramsey, Patsy
Grace, Love and Faithfulness, Through All."

The grave went unmarked until April 2007.

Hmmm.

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As for the grave now having a headstone, this isn't unusual. Often times the stones are not set in place until up to a year after the burial. Has something to do with the ground setteling before placing the marker. It happened in cases of all my family who have died and place to rest in a cemetery.
JMO
 
This may be JR's most brillaint move yet. Whatever you think of Beth Twitty, she iS most certainly a victim. From the moment that 911 call was places Dec.26, 1996, the R's portrayed themselves as victims. This is almost as good as calling in the "victims' advocates" that day.
BTW, Beth Twitty and her second husband, Natalee's stepfather, separated shortly after this tragedy occurred. It believe I read that it was related to the case, in the sense that Beth Twitty threw her life into finding out what happened to her daughter. Kind of heartless of him, if that's the case. I mean, who wouldn't do the same thing she did?
The guy's name was Jug. Who wants a husband with that name. She'll do better without him.
JMO
 
Gone today, and read the article again. It references their
involvement with the 'Nashville Speakers Bureau'.

Wondering IF IF JR invited other speakers to Charlevoix as
well, sort of a group thing???

The Enquirer issue the mailman never brought to me last week, I
bought today - the May 7th issue.

Interesting item in it.Page 24, Patsy's gravesite
finally has a headstone. The stone says, "Patricia Paugh Ramsey, Patsy
Grace, Love and Faithfulness, Through All."

The grave went unmarked until April 2007.

Hmmm.

.

Pardon me while I roll my eyes and throw up.....:rolleyes: :sick:
 
Pardon me while I roll my eyes and throw up.....:rolleyes: :sick:



--->>>Thank you for noticing the engraving! I know it takes a
while to get the stone placed, my husband died recently.

IT was the thought of the engraving that made me ponder, particularly the
short and sweet 'Through All'. That certainly covers a boatload
of 'stuff'.

The 'Through All', fits my theory, quite well. imop.

A simple, "A Wonderful Wife and Mother", would have released
her involvement, in having a heavy hand in the death.

Whats in a word, comes to mind.

E article said that Beths divorce was final April 20, this year.

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She was with her boyfriend, but I do not know if he was killed also.
Beth's boyfriend Matt was killed also. He died at the crash scene, Beth later in the hospital to which she had been airlifted.
 
Why can't she see that he is using her to sanitize his public image?
 
This may be JR's most brillaint move yet. Whatever you think of Beth Twitty, she iS most certainly a victim. From the moment that 911 call was places Dec.26, 1996, the R's portrayed themselves as victims. This is almost as good as calling in the "victims' advocates" that day.
BTW, Beth Twitty and her second husband, Natalee's stepfather, separated shortly after this tragedy occurred. It believe I read that it was related to the case, in the sense that Beth Twitty threw her life into finding out what happened to her daughter. Kind of heartless of him, if that's the case. I mean, who wouldn't do the same thing she did?

DeeDee,

John and Patsy did not call in the Victim's Advocates. They come with the package, according to Schiller. I just don't think anything John does is "brilliant". He just happened to be in the right place, Boulder. :cool:
 
This is a bizarre twist, Natalees mom seemed smarter than this!!

I kind of felt the same way, that she would be smarter, however, I think what she sees, is they have both lost a chid. I'm sure he plays into that.
 
--->>>Thank you for noticing the engraving! I know it takes a
while to get the stone placed, my husband died recently.

IT was the thought of the engraving that made me ponder, particularly the
short and sweet 'Through All'. That certainly covers a boatload
of 'stuff'.

The 'Through All', fits my theory, quite well. imop.

A simple, "A Wonderful Wife and Mother", would have released
her involvement, in having a heavy hand in the death.

Whats in a word, comes to mind.

E article said that Beths divorce was final April 20, this year.

.

First of all, let me say that I am so sorry to hear about your husband...I hope that you are doing okay.

Second of all...I agree with you. My mom died 8 years ago, and it didn't take US almost a year to get her headstone and engraving. It took John almost one year to put Patsy's headstone up. It doesn't take THAT long for the ground to settle, or to engrave a headstone...that is ridiculous. I agree with you....it was placed there in April...for a reason. I believe that John KNEW that he would have bad publicity, if it was found out that he had been dating Beth, and Patsy didn't even have a headstone on her grave, yet. He would have been considered..."COLD".....brrrrrrrrr....he IS cold AND calculating...in MY book.
 
I kind of felt the same way, that she would be smarter, however, I think what she sees, is they have both lost a chid. I'm sure he plays into that.

OH yeah, and John can totally play that for what its worth...because he has lost TWO children...Beth, and JB. So HE is "really pitiful". :rolleyes:
 
What happened to Loving Wife, Mother, Former Miss West Virginie..
 
There are probably a lot of reasons John would be attracted to Beth. Here's one: Beth and Patsy are both whinners.
JMO
 
There are probably a lot of reasons John would be attracted to Beth. Here's one: Beth and Patsy are both whinners.
JMO



--->>>I take exception to your post in that you refer to both Beth and Patsy as
being ALIVE, not so.

Beth turned every rock over to try and find her daughter, and information about WHO
took her.

PR on the other hand AFTER that famous CNN early broadcast, did not openly continue
with efforts for JonBenet with the same vigor as Beth. WHY
would the Ramseys not come out in full force to determine WHO was
impersonating Johns oldest son by his first marriage? This
was THE time to bug the heck out of the media, such as going
on CNN again, or ANY and all Cable network stations to OUT
the impersonator, that tried to hire BOATMAN to have a fatal
accident with JonBenet.

Hmmm,only media report WE saw was a defensive mode, 'the son' was
not in Michigan at the time of the OFFER.

Then of course R's had a fizzled foundation for JonBenet.
Then just a lot of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ's - correction zzzzz's.

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--->>>I take exception to your post in that you refer to both Beth and Patsy as
being ALIVE, not so.

Beth turned every rock over to try and find her daughter, and information about WHO
took her.

PR on the other hand AFTER that famous CNN early broadcast, did not openly continue
with efforts for JonBenet with the same vigor as Beth. WHY
would the Ramseys not come out in full force to determine WHO was
impersonating Johns oldest son by his first marriage? This
was THE time to bug the heck out of the media, such as going
on CNN again, or ANY and all Cable network stations to OUT
the impersonator, that tried to hire BOATMAN to have a fatal
accident with JonBenet.

Hmmm,only media report WE saw was a defensive mode, 'the son' was
not in Michigan at the time of the OFFER.

Then of course R's had a fizzled foundation for JonBenet.
Then just a lot of ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ's - correction zzzzz's.

.

I applaud you Camper....Beth Twitty was on television nearly every day after her daughter's disappearance. She hounded officials, she wanted suspects arrested...she was frantic.

OTOH, Patsy chose to hide behind her lawyers, not stepping one foot into Headquarters....calling police 7 months after her daughters death and asking them for updates.

7 MONTHS!
 

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