CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

[enelram]

The Cripple Creek Donkeys -14 of them, are managed, fed and
overseen by a Volunteer group called The Two Mile Club.
Apparently the donkeys are distant relatives of the donkeys
used in the mines many years back.
Today they're allowed to roam free during warm months and penned in the winter.
CC is an old, historic mining town that was mostly a ghost town
til gambling was approved and all the casinos moved in.
Cripple Creek Donkeys ⋆ Cripple Creek Today

 

[yawningreyhound]

I guess we are now allowed to talk about dad with a phone because he was shown on this episode, and it gave background on him a little bit.

I do know that a lot of my WS buddies that I admire on here have a differing opinion, but I do like to see his videos, his drone shots ( especially when KKL was on POF property with law enforcement on the 24th) and the three interviews that he has done with other people. The other stuff, I don't do the long videos he does, nor do I watch gray Hughes do those three hour-long sessions that he does anymore either. But that's just me, I want to get to the information of the case.

I see him as that He was just somebody who was in the area who had another job and got pulled into this.

This is not his Forte being a journalist.

So I see some things from him that I really think are great for a case, And some things I just roll and scroll.

I appreciate very much what he has offered to the case. And I expect will offer in the future.

Thank you. Sometimes one has to take the wheat with the chaff or something like that. WPU scores amazing insider interviews. He's opinionated about the local LE and suffers for it, and he knows that town like no one else broadcasting out there. I think his heart and intentions are clear. That counts for a lot.

 

[Hatch]

I’d like to see some WSers interview the whole sorry gang.
What questions would some ask?

I would ask KK #1 Why did you not contact LE when PF asked you to kill KB #2- Why would you drive 1600 miles round trip 3 times to kill a woman you did not even know personally? Was it for love, lust, or jealousy because I do not buy into you being scared of PF.
#2 How well did you know SF and for how long?
I would ask PF- Why do you hate women?
Tell me about your relationship with your Mother?
Tell me about your relationship with your Father?
Of course he would have to agree to be hooked up to a car battery while the questioning was going on.
Zap Zap Zap Wrong answer, let's try again.

 

[skyedaze]

I just watched the Dateline episode. I share the opinion of what many others already posted here about it, so I won’t re-state. One thing new for me was the sweet potato casserole KB mentioned in the text to PF on Thanksgiving Day: “in case you want sweet potato casserole.” That sounds to me like she thought she was going to his house for dinner or eating in with him.

Yes and is that what she was doing at Safeway???...buying everything to make that for his self?

 

[yawningreyhound]

RSBM
The first time Krystal broke the cowboy code was when she had an affair with PF. The second time she broke the code was when she drove 1600 miles to poison KB. The third time was when she drove 1600 miles to bash KB's head in with a metal rod. The fourth time was when she drove 1600 miles to clean up the murder scene, dispose of KB's body, dispose of KB's gun, send txt msgs to throw off LE, lied to her husband, her friends, her family and implicated them in a murder and then proceeded to have a sonic burger to celebrate her good fortune before heading off for a couple of days of R&R in Vegas to really celebrate. But I digress.

Succinct, ascerbic, in a nutshell. Lets not forget the 1600 miles with an aluminum baseball bat

 

[ajaylee]

Perhaps they picked the moronic friends of PF to interview to show the people PF associated with. MSO who knows very little about this case, said " geez are all those folks in that community like the donkey guy?"

At the very least, a good interviewer should be constantly following up commentary from folks like CC by clarifying: "do you know this personally or is your only source PF?"

I saw one headline somewhere that made me see red: it was about KK and it was something to the effect of 'woman at center of murder triangle'.

NO! KK is not at the 'center' of anything! She has a lot to answer for, but she is not responsible for the months of domestic abuse KB suffered at PF's hands. Whatever else she did, she did not force PF to kill KB - that is 100% on him.

I suppose that's what the defense will do - try to discredit KK's lies. It doesn't matter how many lies KK told - that's distracting from the real question, which is: "did PF kill KB"?

Furthermore, I don't believe this is a 'love triangle'. This is one man who wanted to get rid of the mother of his child but who didn't want to run the risks and do the dirty work himself, so he used another woman he had been involved with as a tool. No love triangle, he wasn't going to be getting together with KK 'happily ever after' when it was over. She was a long-distance rodeo booty call and nothing more.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

S

Someone who is really,really, really.... Stupid and thinks they can get away with murder.
MOO

Someone who wants a trophy.

 

[ilovechili]

Thank you. Sometimes one has to take the wheat with the chaff or something like that. WPU scores amazing insider interviews. He's opinionated about the local LE and suffers for it, and he knows that town like no one else broadcasting out there. I think his heart and intentions are clear. That counts for a lot.

He says what he thinks. Most people these days are scared to say what they think they have to kind of kiss up to certain types if ya know what I mean. And that is exactly how the bad continues to flourish as well. On the other hand, he is friendly with some other higher ups... Must be an interesting situation...

He does score the best interviews and he knows the area.

jmo.

 

[enelram]

What's the old saying...
"The best defense is a good Offense.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say PF was projecting his flaws
onto Kelsey, setting the stage w/ his friends that she was a loser.
like "She was about to lose her job", HAH, he didn't have a job.
"She went to rehab for a drinking and drug problem", betcha, betcha HE has a drinking and drug problem.
"She abused the baby w/ her curling iron", betcha he wacked
the baby a few times like he did to the horses and dogs.
BTW- did anyone else notice the dark bruising on baby K's leg
in that pic of PF and the 2 old men? moo.

 

[enelram]

I would ask KK #1 Why did you not contact LE when PF asked you to kill KB #2- Why would you drive 1600 miles round trip 3 times to kill a woman you did not even know personally? Was it for love, lust, or jealousy because I do not buy into you being scared of PF.
#2 How well did you know SF and for how long?
I would ask PF- Why do you hate women?
Tell me about your relationship with your Mother?
Tell me about your relationship with your Father?
Of course he would have to agree to be hooked up to a car battery while the questioning was going on.
Zap Zap Zap Wrong answer, let's try again.

didn't he tell the ex gf who's in jail that he had a rough family life
growing up? Yes, I'd like to hear more about that.
He probably treats MaF the same as his dad treated her and the
same way he treats all females. Disdain, no respect and abusive.

 

[Hatch]

didn't he tell the ex gf who's in jail that he had a rough family life
growing up? Yes, I'd like to hear more about that.
He probably treats MaF the same as his dad treated her and the
same way he treats all females. Disdain, no respect and abusive.

His anger issues are over the top IMO. A twisted individual.
Note: All of his friends are more than 20 years older . I would be willing to bet he has few if any his own age.

 

[yawningreyhound]

If I could have one wish tonight it would be that every woman who has ever been involved, or is currently involved with a man like PF, watched this episode and has had her eyes opened.

Required reading for all people is a book I came across researching....Confessions of a Sociopath by ME Thomas. I listened to this book, then passed it on to our 3 boys, one of whom was dating a really sketch gal. It was bonechilling and informative. They lurk among the vulnerable.

 

[Elley Mae]

His anger issues are over the top IMO. A twisted individual.
Note: All of his friends are more than 20 years older . I would be willing to bet he has few if any his own age.

I think some of these older friends were friends of his dad.

 

[ilovechili]

His anger issues are over the top IMO. A twisted individual.
Note: All of his friends are more than 20 years older then him. I would be willing to bet he has few if any his own age.

That is interesting as I was just about to post something like that. Where are his male friends his age? From the rodeo circuit? From school? Anywhere? Not a one speaking up for him. The few that are are from a different generation entirely.

Of course, most probably grew up, moved out of mommy's house and out of Cripple Creek....

 

[skycountry]

I'm wondering if any of those people interviewed last night, who blatantly lied (I'm speaking of CC here), can be sued for libel or slander.

If so, I would love to see that happen!

Maybe they could be sued for slander, but what will that get them? A used pot pipe or a donkey, maybe.

 

[lindaromas]

What does one actually do with a "donkey business" anyway?

Turn it into a monkey business?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Yes and is that what she was doing at Safeway???...buying everything to make that for his self?

Flowers for Ma Frazee too.
Hope she thinks real long,and hard about that while she's pleading the fifth.

MOO

 

[enelram]

I think some of these older friends were friends of his dad.

Actually I've seen young men gravitate to much older men as
friends when the young man had a cold, distant relationship
with his own father. It's like they're trying to make up for what
they missed as a child. Not uncommon at all.

 

[skycountry]

Perhaps. There probably are not too many to choose from, most of the people who seemed to have known PF are probably part of the case. Regardless, he is doing nothing but repeating what the guy in jail told him. He has no firsthand information. And if he knew PF so well, let's hear about PF's other relationships, the times they went out to dinner together when he and KB were together, etc. from CC. One won't hear that because there is no such information by CC. I agree with your SO, I pretty much think it seems to be the case...

I would bet money CC knows all the good hidey holes in CC, the mine shafts with easy access, etc. After all he does have to check on the donkeys throughout the year, when they are not kept in the barn area in summer, I would think he has to track them down where ever they wander off to, they are not only in the town of CC, but range all over the area. All is speculation only, and jmo

 

[lindaromas]

That is interesting as I was just about to post something like that. Where are his male friends his age? From the rodeo circuit? From school? Anywhere? Not a one speaking up for him. The few that are are from a different generation entirely.

Of course, most probably grew up, moved out of mommy's house and out of Cripple Creek....

It's my understanding he felt he never had a father figure since his father left SF while PF was at an early age. I think he's searching for that connection.