It's on page 16 of the thread. You should be able to watch it here in the thread.I mentioned this to Pommy, do you guys know if you can only watch live videos on the FB app? I don't do FB and only created the account to watch Sam and now it says I have to watch it on the app... grrrrrr
Jeepers. Thinking he could get away with that, was more insane than thinking he could get away with this.
“I’m just going to kill everyone, and then they’ll just let me go. No witnesses, no guilty verdict.”
Or something.
Thank you soooo much!!It's on page 16 of the thread. You should be able to watch it here in the thread.
As to the bolded---That's pretty funny...so he doesn't admit guilt for killing anyone, but he does request the deaths of 6 or more other people....great defense...
Snipped and BBM. PF has had access to all the discovery from the prosecution. He knew who they were going to call, and what those witnesses were going to say. He responded by trying to solicit someone to kill them. That is consciousness of guilt. If you’re an innocent person, you don’t decide that multiple people have to die.
@MyBelle
Frazee trial: Letters say Frazee asked inmate to kill witnesses
"...In letter 9, Frazee allegedly claimed that the DA’s Office was working with Kenney to give her quotes to say so her testimony matched the circumstantial evidence in the case...."
I'm old so maybe I am hearing impaired, but that sounds like a claim that would be made during a trial, not way back Sept-Oct 2019. How would PF have developed this opinion before the trial to relay it to Bentley? Didn't Bentley admit to watching a TV show about the the case and/or googling about it? What about Bentley's pending testimony in Weld County re: another solicitation, that was brought up during cross and other issues brought up during cross? Did you find him credible?
JMO Bentley was not credible, not at all. I do not think his testimony reflected well on the Prosecution, they should have skipped him, and they certainly should not have rested with him. His testimony all sounds like the sort of nonsense drug addicts come up with when they are high. All JMO
Yes, I know that the claim is that they were written before the trial. I said the statement is written as though it is a product of information gleaned from the trial, not something that could be known way back in Sept-Oct before the trial occurred.
I don't have the link for the first telling that I read: "...He also claimed to the inmate that prosecutors were "coaching [Lee] of the circumstantial evidence to match up."..."
It sounds like something written during the trial.
You do realize that these napkins were only presented on Monday with the claim by Bentley that they were written earlier? The DA received them Monday. Did CBI Agent Slater authenticate when they written in some way, or must we rely on convicted felon Bentley's word?
Specifically, a caramel macchiato.Take her a coffee.
I really think they were just household teeth (that sounds real strange). But, it will always remain a mystery and that's annoying!I would REALLY like to know about those damn teeth! Were they tested for DNA, I wonder?
sam notes #3
- asked expert how long blood takes to dry... long technical answers
- may asked if he had evidence that PF killed KB with a bat, would that be possible
- he said yes... estimated he hit her 10-15 times
- yes, KB could have said, please stop.
- "people are not easy to kill"
- How would he respond to someone saying "This is not a crime scene because there is so little blood"
- There actually is blood and it shows the cleaning efforts
- "Nothing to show death was accidental, very consistent with a homicide"
- Defense, Ashley Porter on cross... pointed out that expert had access to lab reports.. had published a report on this case.. she's trying to say that maybe he didn't tell the whole story here.. new report showed areas that didn't show KB's blood...
- porter asked about spatter stains in kitchen... he said it wasn't evident until KK had pointed out
- KK's testimony helped get the story, helps to explain it
- "The story KK provides seems to align the evidence"
- There was nothing inconsistent found with KK's story
- 3 jury questions for the expert witness
- question #41 - based on your experience, how much blood would be on the individual who caused this - answer was not that much, ends up getting on shoes, cuffs and collars, have done tests, always surprised the person doesn't end up with that much blood on them.. because of the castoff
- question #42 - something about the floor boards
- question #43 - where would you expect blood on the offender/person who did this - again, cuffs, collar, maybe hair
Shocking to hear that there were no Jury questions for Bentley!
Shocking to hear that there were no Jury questions for Bentley!
Well this speaks for itself, as the implication is crystal clear.
There was almost certainly a middleman here. Or I should say, “middlewoman.”
Thank you for the times, however it says I have to view the video on the Facebook App? I don't do FB and only created the account to watch the video's. Any thoughts around this? I do not want to install the app.
I just really thought the timing was off and that the prosecution didn’t really need him. I know now, reading the list, how absolutely wrong I was. I never should have doubted May.
Not only if PF already a dangerous murderer we now know he’ll keep going if he can. If I were any of those named, heck even not named, I’d always feel like I need to look over my shoulder for the rest of my life. I don’t doubt PF will ever stop trying to get someone to do paybacks for him. That’s a scary, scary thought.
This is just so amazing... that PF would trust some gang member in jail not to rat him out... beside the fact he is murderous s*n of a *****. I sure wish we could have seen this live and in person. Mind blowing. Just Unbelievable...
I think that’s just because the letters speak for themselves. Had it just been Bentley testifying, I’m sure there would have been tons of questions.Shocking to hear that there were no Jury questions for Bentley!
sam notes #6
- Slater said he interprets the notes as PF wanting KK's family and others gone
- There is just so much in these notes, I can't type that fast! But worth watching in the video. These notes are INSANE.
- PF keeps saying JM's partner Wendy is a cash cow
- A lot about how great it would be for KK and other witnesses to disappear
- It's all just unreal and mind blowing
- 1:07 - state rests case, doesn't call anyone else
- 1:09 - defense tries arguing robbery charge - he says the robbery would have happened after the murder so he doesn't think it applies. state says doesn't matter when the robbery occurred, he took KB's phone etc, doesn't matter if it was before or after. allowed to stay as a charge
- PF says he understands his rights, his right not to testify, etc, PF said he did not need more time, PF said, "I will remain silent"
- 1:16- jury re-entered... not enough time for jury instructions .. jury sent home
- judge said important to "have a fair trial, not a fast trial" - important to the judge to get them home by 5pm... not keep them around for 2 hours.. judge said we are in the home stretch here...
- jury leaves I think... defense tries to get one of the first degree murder charges dropped.. she said state lacks definitive evidence, no official cause of death... everything comes from KK testimony... state says no we have a lot of evidence, it's up to jury to determine
- so essentially it's decided that if the jury doesn't charge him with first degree, it gives the jury option of a lesser charge, wants to keep that on the table, doesn't want appeals down the road, wants one trial altogether.. judge says obligated to include option of lesser charge... so 2nd degree murder is also on the table. but no evidence to support criminal negligent homicide..
- closing arguments will begin first thing Monday morning. each side gets a maximum of 90 minutes.. they do not have to take all of that time... prosecution... defense... all the evidence will be wheeled back into the jury room... they have the time to deliberate.... no telling how long they will go.... jury could have mind made up, good to go... or could take several days.. or several hours... impossible to predict..
- media will have an hour heads up once verdict is reached...