Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #41

[nhmemorymaker]

If the residence or condo, etc has “private” beach access, I don’t think they’re closed. There were barriers up at Siesta Key beach park. That’s where all the tourists go anyway. The rest of us know better. LOL!

COVID-19 Updates & Beach Conditions | Visit Sarasota
Coronavirus (COVID-19)
(Last Updated 3/19/2020 at 4 pm)
In continued efforts to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 in our community, and in alignment with CDC guidelines, Sarasota County will be closing county operated public beaches Saturday, March 21, 2020 until further notice.

NO ONE owns beach front. All beaches are sovereign, owned by the people of Florida. There are additional conditions (and huge controversies) of "mean high tide lines" and "erosion control lines" etc...but if beaches are closed they are totally closed. Resorts near me can let people "go to" the beach, but not on the beach. Clearly, people who own beach front will stretch the limits and go on to the beach... but if any beach control comes by they still scurry back!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Indiana doesn't have many numbers to go on, but we have positive cases and death graphs. They're interesting.

Positive cases:

Ages 60-80+ make up 48.8% of our positive cases, but 85.7% of our deaths (35 so far).

ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Indiana Novel Coronavirus Map

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Yes... They are being sent into a 14 day self-quarantine. ...........Texas will only punish them if they break their quarantine.<modsnip>

But WHERE do they quarantine? Unless we close all state-to-state travel... how can any law enforcement track who they tell to self quarantine.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

In pictures: NHS Nightingale Hospital London

Latest pictures of the creation of the new Nightingale Hospital in London.

Fantastic idea that they will be employing staff from temporarily defunct airlines, as they already have first aid training and security clearance.

Wow! I love creative solutions!

 

[tresir2012]

This isn't forcing anyone into quarantine.

The link says they must self quarantine for 14 days.

"The self-quarantine order instructs travelers to go directly home, a hotel, or other lodging and remain there unless they seek medical care or leave the state.

It also says DPS special agents may show up unannounced to confirm travelers are isolating where they claim they would on the form."

 

[CSIDreamer]

Indiana doesn't have many numbers to go on, but we have positive cases and death graphs. They're interesting.

Positive cases:

Ages 60-80+ make up 48.8% of our positive cases, but 85.7% of our deaths (35 so far).

ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Indiana Novel Coronavirus Map

ETA and somewhere in our governor's address today he said we have 1,172 ventilators in the state. Jmo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Our grandson who is a RN at Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital which is one of the worst hotspots in our state just called us.

He said anyone entering the hospital from now on must wear a mask before entering. Masks will be provided outside by staff before anyone enters. They have already restricted any visitors.

I have an appointment on April 9th with my cardiologist at Phoebe It's the same cardiologists team of doctors our granddaughter works for as a PA. She also called me today, and recommended I cancel it for now until the cases decrease. The number of cases still continues to climb. I had never had any problems with my heart ever until I was in PPMH when it happened out of the blue on March 4th.

I only had serious spinal issues taking 1 medication only until then, but even my spinal specialist did a tele-patient/doctor visit with me this morning. He said he is doing this with all high risk patients.

So all of this is all so new to me as I KNOW it is for every one else who has even had to change the way they receive doctor's care, and get their medications.

Oh my brother just called too. He said they were just told each employee must take their temperature right before work. If they have any fever at all they won't be allowed to come to work. He's an essential employee.

Jmho

You hang in there... i hope you request another tele/patient visit again to share info with ypur physician. I know they're soooooo busy, but you can't let them forget about you either! Doesn't it feel good to have our loved ones call though? Means everything to me...

 

[gregjrichards]

New York City doctor, 63, is in critical condition with coronavirus after an infected elderly patient coughed on him

Dr. Arnold Weg, a 63-year-old primary care physician and gastroenterologist who has treated more than 30,000 patients during his career, was examining an elderly patient when they coughed on him a month ago.

New York City doctor, 63, is in critical condition with coronavirus after a patient coughed on him | Daily Mail Online

Please keep Dr. Weg in your prayers, I really hope he survives.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Oh my. I wish them well. Yes Michigan.....which is where my American Family are. They are well. So far.

Michigan is going to need so much help. Hearing any of the officials talking on the news from Michigan are so respected...they are just fighting so hard, and feeling so much for the citizens.

 

[tresir2012]

That says nothing about quarantining people or arresting them at the border.

Enough with the drama, people are dying.

It says this.

"The self-quarantine order instructs travelers to go directly home, a hotel, or other lodging and remain there unless they seek medical care or leave the state.

It also says DPS special agents may show up unannounced to confirm travelers are isolating where they claim they would on the form."

So they are on scouts honour to quarantine themselves. Hmmm that will work I wonder.

 

[Rose in SC]

SC posts 151 new cases of coronavirus, two new death related to virus

https://www.thestate.com/news/coron...1.html?utm_source=pushly&intcid=pushly_501560

Wow - that's up to 925 cases / 18 deaths. Surely the governor will do something now! South Carolina is so NOT prepared (IMO).

 

[nhmemorymaker]

New York City doctor, 63, is in critical condition with coronavirus after an infected elderly patient coughed on him

Dr. Arnold Weg, a 63-year-old primary care physician and gastroenterologist who has treated more than 30,000 patients during his career, was examining an elderly patient when they coughed on him a month ago.

New York City doctor, 63, is in critical condition with coronavirus after a patient coughed on him | Daily Mail Online

Please keep Dr. Weg in your prayers, I really hope he survives.

His two sons were on CNN this morning. They talked through each detail of his progression AND provided such warnings to people. ... it was just so painful. He was resisting any intubation for others. I just hope he pulls through.

 

[Boston Corbett]

I imagine that future biology students will look at various types of clusters that gathered, and perhaps sociologists of religion and theologians will look specifically at religious gatherings.

Yes, that also.

I'm not familar with other large groups who have encouraged assembling after social distancing became policy, however. Are there any besides the religious ones?

 

[tresir2012]

Yes... They are being sent into a 14 day self-quarantine. ...........Texas will only punish them if they break their quarantine.<modsnip>

So self quarantine is not quarantine really is it?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It says this.

"The self-quarantine order instructs travelers to go directly home, a hotel, or other lodging and remain there unless they seek medical care or leave the state.

It also says DPS special agents may show up unannounced to confirm travelers are isolating where they claim they would on the form."

So they are on scouts honour to quarantine themselves. Hmmm that will work I wonder.

Almost wish we could "deputize" lots of unemployed folks to be trackers... I know its probably a fantasy but it seems like it could be set up to be safe... no direct interaction or communication.. I would think that the "out of stater" has to provide a cell phone number on that form.

 

[10ofRods]

Look for new clusters to proliferate in Oklahoma, when widespread testing reaches there. I have heard many churches are packed each Sunday. My grandparents are bright old sorts, and have stayed home Sundays for the first time in ages. Others....

I have a dear cousin in Oklahoma, who is immune-compromised and watching OK"s stats climb.

The thing about Oklahoma is that, since there's virtually no social distancing, it's going to peak quickly (with higher mortality) and hospitals will be overwhelmed starting around April 1-2 (peak is predicted to be April 17, when hospital beds will already be completely occupied by earlier patients - a typical stay for CoVid is 2 weeks in hospital, with some patients in hospital for a month).

That means that most hospitals will have not worked out their triage methods, they will continue with current practice, admit a lot of people they wouldn't admit later, and later patients will die. Perhaps this makes sense to them - but I really think their leaders are not thinking this through.

The good news it that OK appears to have enough regular hospital beds, it's ICU beds that will be in short supply.

 

[KALI]

Most excellent news let's hope all other places of worship take heed. L.E. needs to also bust anyone throwing a gathering as well.
I don't want to be guaranteed for the rest of this year due to people like this.I
Last week, one of my neighbor 's had a party.
I didn't say anything at the time. Now, I feel much differently and will call the police.

Sheriff’s Office obtains arrest warrant for pastor of Tampa church that held two large Sunday services
TAMPA — The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office has obtained an arrest warrant for the pastor of a Tampa megachurch who held two services on Sunday for scores of worshipers, violating a county order for residents to stay at home to limit the spread of coronavirus.

“Because of the reckless disregard of public safety and after repeated requests and warnings, I worked with our state attorney, Andrew Warren, to obtain a warrant for unlawful assembly and violation of public health emergency rules, both of which are second degree misdemeanors,” Chronister said. “Our goal here is not to stop anyone from worshiping, but the safety and well-being of our community must always come first."

State law allows the order to be enforced as a second-degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 60 days in jail, a maximum fine of $500 or both.

Arrest Warrant Issued For Pastor After Sunday Gatherings
The gathering violates the county's "safer at home" order as well as President Donald Trump’s social distancing guidelines and recommendations made by the Centers For Disease Control.

Public or private gatherings, including faith-based gatherings are limited to 10 people or less.

In a statement from earlier this month, church leaders said they felt they were an essential service and would be keeping their doors open.

The sheriff's office advised church leaders of the danger they are putting themselves and their congregation in by not following the guidelines.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

So self quarantine is not quarantine really is it?

dbm

 

[tresir2012]

News from Iowa today : March 30: 88 additional COVID-19 cases reported, two more deaths
88 positive new tests and sadly 2 more deaths. Also adding more children who are positive. Total of 424 positive now and 6 passed.
Lawsuit filed against IA Gov. Kim Reynolds regarding suspension of surgical abortions
And unfortunantly it is in alot of businesses that are considered essential: John Deere closing Dubuque Works for cleaning
Wells Fargo officials confirm COVID-19 case at West Des Moines facility
Multiple Quaker Oats employees infected with COVID-19

Ooh-er. Are they going to recall Quaker Oats? What will happen?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The Antibody Test to See if You've Already Had the Coronavirus | Drug Discovery And Development

Update on progress in developing antibody tests.

Turns out, several places have the test, but they have not been purchased in great numbers by US states or municipalities.

If we had widespread use of this test, we could rearrange medical personnel so that only people with antibodies were allowed to treat CoVid patients.

So far, the big orders for the tests are going to Europe and the Middle East.

Hopefully we will eventually have MASSIVE use of these antibody tests.... it will desperately diminish fear in the future. Tests tests tests.