MN - George Floyd, 46, unarmed, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 *arrests* #2

[sds71]

Snopes debunks it.

 

[Curiosity1234]

but I never

I don't think the alleged crime, or the degree of the crime, had anything to do with why he was killed. It wouldn't have mattered if Floyd had passed a counterfeit bill or robbed the store of $5000, the result would have been the same because Chauvin was the one who responded to the call. Chauvin didn't kill him because of the alleged counterfeit bill, he killed him because he's a sadistic bully and he wanted to show his fellow cops and his audience that he could do whatever he wanted and no one could stop him. I bet he enjoyed listening to the crowd begging him to stop. The guy is a little cray cray if you ask me.

Forgive me for laughing but I never heard the term "a little cray cray before". I needed a laugh and a lift.

The other officers should have their own trials, and get as far away from Chauvin as possible. That would be my strategy.

I don't know what to think of this case. What would be a reasonable settlement offer for the other officers? Is it better for them to settle or keep this case going on and on?

The civil lawsuit against the Minneapolis PD is going to be a blank check. May as well un fund the police department there, this payout is going to be similar to the payout for Justine Damond.

Jjustine Damond, another victim I am just hearing about and looked up, thank you Mickey2942. I can't remember the man's name but just recently heard of a him being shot 41 times in N.Y. in February 1999. His name is Amadou Diallo.

 

[Meloni88]

I am in 100% agreement that its not relavent to what happened to George and im also 10000% against it. The only reason I came here to ask is ive read the court docs and its not mentioned anywhere and so I believe its just a rumor started by ignorance and am looking for evidence to put it to rest!! Not that it matters I guess but I feel a fierce desire to protect his memory and not let him be slandered with lies trying to make him look worse.

I think you are right. I've heard in MSM about the pointing a firearm at the woman's abdomen during a home invasion but the detail about her being pregnant I've only seen in facebook posts and such. I suspect it's just some embellishment (shall we say) to drive the point that he wasn't a good guy. People just pulling stuff out of their butts as usual. We will probably find out in the future. But aiming a gun at a woman's stomach is bad enough, good lord. Absolutely awful whether she was pregnant or not. Floyd's character isn't the issue though since it has nothing to do with the police officers' actions.

 

[dar107]

Yes, the DM is allowed.

George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

 

[dar107]

I think you are right. I've heard in MSM about the pointing a firearm at the woman's abdomen during a home invasion but the detail about her being pregnant I've only seen in facebook posts and such. I suspect it's just some embellishment (shall we say) to drive the point that he wasn't a good guy. People just pulling stuff out of their butts as usual. We will probably find out in the future. But aiming a gun at a woman's stomach is bad enough, good lord. Absolutely awful whether she was pregnant or not. Floyd's character isn't the issue though since it has nothing to do with the police officers' actions.

Absolutley. He appeared to be remorseful and trying to do some good in his community. His big living family atest to his true charactor.

 

[mickey2942]

I think you are right. I've heard in MSM about the pointing a firearm at the woman's abdomen during a home invasion but the detail about her being pregnant I've only seen in facebook posts and such. I suspect it's just some embellishment (shall we say) to drive the point that he wasn't a good guy. People just pulling stuff out of their butts as usual. We will probably find out in the future. But aiming a gun at a woman's stomach is bad enough, good lord. Absolutely awful whether she was pregnant or not. Floyd's character isn't the issue though since it has nothing to do with the police officers' actions.

I agree. Mr. Floyd should not be judged at all by his previous actions, what he did, or didn't do.

This is all about the failure of the Minneapolis PD. I seriously believe that Chauvin's supervisor should have also been terminated. Maybe if supervisors are held accountable for what people who are under them do, they would be a lot more likely to pursue corrective measures before something like this happened.

I am interested if Chauvin had any bloodwork done? Was he taking any sort of drugs? Steroids?

 

[Boxer]

And, as I stated, I don't think that there is any justification for the brutality displayed by Chauvin.

Mr. Floyd was definitely a victim in this situation. But, I don't think that we have to cannonize him. Or not acknowledge that he was positive for illegal drugs at the time of his death.

This doesn't negate him. It is a fact. There is a problem, when people don't want to acknowledge a fact, or try to sugar coat it. My own opinion.

MOO ugar coating means glossing over hard realities.
In the case of George Floyd this would mean agreeing with Kroll that GF was a

In the video it appeared as if the employee in the white shirt was trying to stop the officers but they pushed him away. I thought it was mentioned that he was the store owner's son but I'm not sure.

The owner is older and may have been able to talk to the officers and intervene. It seemed as if the bystanders were mostly young adults or kids who were helpless to stop them.

If someone more authoritative had been there, they might have listened instead of pushing them violently away, spraying them with pepper spray, and saying, "Don't do drugs, kids!" in the same tone one would say, "Have a nice day, kids!"

But then again, the women who pleaded with them to check his pulse and told them she was a firefighter didn't seem to phase them either. Maybe they thought she was just a kid, too.

I'm sure the owner was horrified when he saw that video. It was after the fact, so maybe that's why he said if he had been there he would have handled it differently.

Yes it is really too bad for Mr. Floyd that no grown up was present.

 

[mickey2942]

George Floyd protests: Lawyer says family plans civil suit against Derek Chauvin

This article mentions the civil lawsuit the family has planned against Chauvin for the death of George Floyd. What his wife doesn't get in the divorce, Floyd's family will probably get the rest.

 

[Sillybilly]

George Floyd protests: Lawyer says family plans civil suit against Derek Chauvin

This article mentions the civil lawsuit the family has planned against Chauvin for the death of George Floyd. What his wife doesn't get in the divorce, Floyd's family will probably get the rest.

I'm wondering if the courts will put a freeze on the divorce proceedings if it can be determined that she immediately filed in order to try to protect her share of the assets from lawsuits.

 

[mickey2942]

I'm wondering if the courts will put a freeze on the divorce proceedings if it can be determined that she immediately filed in order to try to protect her share of the assets from lawsuits.

I don't think that the court can do anything. If the former Mrs. Chauvin stated that she was a victim of domestic violence. That is the end of inquiry. She doesn't have to "prove" that statement. It is part of the law, "Violence against women and children act" VAWA. Once a person invokes the claim of domestic violence, divorce is granted, and the former Mrs. Chauvin is allowed to sue for assets and portion of Chauvin's pension.

Floyd's family cannot sue the former Mrs. Chauvin for assets.

 

[Sillybilly]

I don't think that the court can do anything. If the former Mrs. Chauvin stated that she was a victim of domestic violence. That is the end of inquiry. She doesn't have to "prove" that statement. It is part of the law, "Violence against women and children act" VAWA. Once a person invokes the claim of domestic violence, divorce is granted, and the former Mrs. Chauvin is allowed to sue for assets and portion of Chauvin's pension.

Floyd's family cannot sue the former Mrs. Chauvin for assets.

She didn't claim domestic violence. She filed May 28, 3 days after George Floyd was killed, and the the day before Chauvin was charged, and cited an "irretrievable breakdown of the marriage" that was beyond saving.

 

[tresir2012]

Just jumping in. I am trying to find out if it is true that the woman was pregnant regarding the armed robbery George was involved in, if anyone has any information on that.

This article may help.

Did George Floyd have a criminal past and what were his previous convictions?

 

[mickey2942]

She didn't claim domestic violence. She filed May 28, 3 days after George Floyd was killed, and the the day before Chauvin was charged, and cited an "irretrievable breakdown of the marriage" that was beyond saving.

Which is what was reported. VAWA can be completely sealed. It is unlikely that Floyd's family can sue her. She has severed her relationship with Chauvin and was entitled to whatever financial settlement amount was allowed. Probably a half portion of his pension is going to be the most valuable.

Floyd's family can definitely attach Chauvin's pension benefits, and other assets. But, the lion's share is going to be from the City of Minneapolis. For reference, in the Damond case, the settlement amount was $20 million.
$2M Of Justine Ruszczyk Damond Settlement Will Go To Safe Communities Fund

 

[RAISINISBACK]

It’s discussed because people want to think “oh, he had a record” or “he did drugs” or whatever bad thing, because then it justifies his death in their mind. In addition, they think “I don’t have a record and I don’t do drugs so a cop would never hurt me” so they don’t have to be afraid of police brutality.

BBM

they think “I don’t have a record and I don’t do drugs so a cop would never hurt me”

That may be what they think but it is far from being true. There are many reports of innocent people being arrested or shot because they were mistaken for a criminal.


because then it justifies his death in their mind.

Nothing he did in the past or could have done in the future justifies his death at the hands of another human being.

Not to get into religion on here but the Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill." It's why I do not believe in the death penalty. No one has the right to take the life of another person.

JMO

 

[tresir2012]

I'm wondering if the courts will put a freeze on the divorce proceedings if it can be determined that she immediately filed in order to try to protect her share of the assets from lawsuits.

Well it does look like that but how would that be proved? She would be entitled to her half of the pension and assets anyway wouldn't she? She is a victim in this too IMO.
Presumably also we cannot sleuth her.

 

[Cubby]

But, as I have stated previously, many police officers have a knee jerk reaction when they are not obeyed immediately. And I believe that escalates situations unnecessarily.

Rsbm. This got me thinking. Every single police agency across the country needs to have mandatory de escalation training. I drive a school van for special needs children. Part of our training and safety meetings include de escalation for students with behavior problems. We aren't medical specialists of any sort, aside from a good driving record and a high school diploma there really aren't any other skills necessary. If people who are school bus drivers and school bus monitors can be taught de escalation our police officers can be taught too.

I'm so freaking tired of all the damn excuses from LEO why they can't do this or that. If they can't serve and PROTECT choose a different career path.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Yes, everything seemed to be fine until Chauvin and Thao got there. I think they were beating on him when the car was shaking. I still want to know if they had their body cams turned on. We know of at least one incident when Chauvin turned his off when he pulled the woman out of the car on another occasion. I wouldn't be surprised if he had it off when he arrived.

BBM

We don't have any proof of them beating on him in the car but...….. LE did call an ambulance stating he had a mouth injury and...… bystanders commented that he had blood running from his nose.

JMO

 

[Lilibet]

Snopes debunks it.

Yes. All anyone needs to do is a google search “Snopes George Floyd” and get the well-researched facts.

Again, why Mr Floyd’s past is even still being brought up in connection with his execution by cop is beyond my understanding.
JMO

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Yes. All anyone needs to do is a google search “Snopes George Floyd” and get the well-researched facts.

Again, why Mr Floyd’s past is even still being brought up in connection with his execution by cop is beyond my understanding.
JMO

If you really feel the need to know what type of criminal record he had take a look at the Texas online court records.

 

[Cubby]

Houston’s top prosecutor has concluded that a scandal-ridden former Houston police officer likely lied when he arrested George Floyd on a minor drug offense for which Mr. Floyd served time in state jail.
Ogg said Floyd’s case was among the cases that prosecutors were working to clear.

“We even sent Mr. Floyd a notice, but because all we had was his last known address, I don’t believe he ever received it,” Ogg said. “He would’ve been entitled to relief.”

Ogg: Case involving George Floyd was among Goines cases being reviewed by prosecutors

The link indicates the former Houston police officer lied about a 2019 case, not Mr. Floyd's case, but because of that 2019 case all his previous cases resulting in drug convictions were being reviewed.