Found Deceased GA - Quinton Simon - Discovered Missing From Home By Non-Custodial Mom - Savannah #2

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I wonder what kind of visitation arrangements the mother has. There was a woman here in the Cincinnati area a few years back, she had custody of her great-niece, about a year old, and the mother wasn't supposed to have unsupervised contact. The mother became homeless, and the great-aunt (mother's aunt) let her stay with her and the baby. The mother ended up killing the baby, and I believe the great-aunt got into some sort of trouble for allowing her to live there with the baby.
I'm not sure if CPS closed this case or temporary custody has been given to the grandma. Does anyone know? If the case has not been closed, it's not unusual for the bio mom/dad to have overnight visitation approved by the case worker. As a GAL, I argue often against it if I feel it won't be a good idea (drugs still in the picture, etc). But they were all living under the same roof from what I understand, and if unsupervised overnight visitation were to occur in an ongoing case, then the case worker/GAL's would need to give permission. ETA: But they don't always tell the caseworkers.
 
I wonder what kind of visitation arrangements the mother has. There was a woman here in the Cincinnati area a few years back, she had custody of her great-niece, about a year old, and the mother wasn't supposed to have unsupervised contact. The mother became homeless, and the great-aunt (mother's aunt) let her stay with her and the baby. The mother ended up killing the baby, and I believe the great-aunt got into some sort of trouble for allowing her to live there with the baby.
I get the sense that nothing pertaining to the grandma's supposed custody of the two older kids was ever handled legally. Sounds like just a "here, you take'em then", or a "just let me take care of them, since you can't" type deal, similar to the babysitter was not a legal childcare provider, but more a "hey, since you're at home all day anyway, I could use a babysitter. I'll even pay you a little money under the table". I think the only times any of them ever used an attorney was when one happened to be in legal trouble. I hope they have one on speed dial, because I think one or more is soon going to need one. JMO
 
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This has been my thought since the beginning. We (or I at least) do not know how or why Gma retained custody. It could have been court ordered, it could have been voluntary by the mother.

It appears to me Gma stepped up and took care of her grandbabies, loved them and provided for them. At the same time Gma was trying to help her daughter with a new baby.

So sad people are going through this ordeal when little Quinton's location is unknown. It is mental torture.

Sending blessings to Quinton and those that loved him.
I have wondered if Mom allowed Grandma to take custody so she wouldn't lose them into the system. In the Live video from FB from the BS (Gray Hughes on YT showed it, but I don't know how to link it), she says that Grandma told her she wanted to support her daughter and give her another chance with the kids because she lost her kids to the system before. So Grandma might have seen what was coming and took custody or she was given custody when Daughter went to jail for whatever it was she went to jail for that she is currently on probation for.
 
I have wondered if Mom allowed Grandma to take custody so she wouldn't lose them into the system. In the Live video from FB from the BS (Gray Hughes on YT showed it, but I don't know how to link it), she says that Grandma told her she wanted to support her daughter and give her another chance with the kids because she lost her kids to the system before. So Grandma might have seen what was coming and took custody or she was given custody when Daughter went to jail for whatever it was she went to jail for that she is currently on probation for.
I hate to even suggest this, but I wonder if LS was getting a nice little check monthly from the government, as a single mother of three children, that might have been lost if grandma took legal custody, which may be another reason that it might have just been done very informally. JMO
 
This has been my thought since the beginning. We (or I at least) do not know how or why Gma retained custody. It could have been court ordered, it could have been voluntary by the mother.

It appears to me Gma stepped up and took care of her grandbabies, loved them and provided for them. At the same time Gma was trying to help her daughter with a new baby.

So sad people are going through this ordeal when little Quinton's location is unknown. It is mental torture.

Sending blessings to Quinton and those that loved him.
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At this time my .02 is that they had a voluntary arrangement ?
That way, dcfs does not need to be actively involved, and the children are not removed .
Iirc, there have been calls in the past concerning the care of the children, made to the authorities ?

Another thought is that IF the kids were placed in foster care, the biological dads of the kids may be allowed to pursue sole custody, if they so wished ?
I don't know what the arrangements were, with the bio dads.
Wonder if the father of the youngest will now seek full custody ?
M00.
 
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bolding mine.
At this time me .02 is that they had a voluntary arrangement ?
That way, dcfs does not need to be actively involved, and the children are not removed ?
Iirc, there have been calls in the past concerning the care of the children, made to the authorities ?

Another thought is that IF the kids were placed in foster care, the biological dads of the kids may be allowed to pursue sole custody, if they so wished ?
I don't know what the arrangements were, with the bio dads.
Wonder if the father of the youngest will now seek full custody ?
M00.
BBM
Or if he will be able to...
 
Bringing this over from @Addicted2Crime on the last thread, but I couldn't get the quote to work:
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agree with a previous poster that said her asking about fixing the pool is likely her trying to grip on to anything that resembles normalcy. I wonder if the pool looked the way it did because they never repaired the liner problems. You cant leave a liner pool empty like that for long without causing more damage, plus you need it drained in most cases to fix liner problems so with it being empty and her wanting to avoid further problems she knew it had to be done. When my husband passed away, I was shellshocked and traumatized but I had young kids and still needed to do a lot of normal things as hard as it was - I am not comparing situations but its kind of crazy what you do when going through trauma that might look weird to outsiders.
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I'm so sorry you lost your husband while you still had young children.

IMO your comment, which is SBM, actually shows the opposite of how the grandmother reacted.

You HAD to do normal things, but you did that because your children were alive and needed you. You clearly put them first, ahead of your own trauma, and forced yourself to carry on and help them through their own loss of a father. That is a heroic and truly maternal choice.

In this case, Quinton is still missing and I cannot fathom how he cannot be her only and every thought, along with the impact on her other grandchildren, and whatever trouble several family members are possibly going to find themselves in shortly.

In that context, I personally, MOO, cannot grasp how the liner of the pool and the restoration of the pool could even register in her mind.

If she needs the pool fixed for her other grandchildren, now is certainly not the time for this to be a priority.

Jmo
I will admit that I shopped the day after my dad passed. He was an incredible father and the pain of his loss became unbearable. I had to mentally escape for a few hours. It sounds cold but really, in hindsight, it was a survival move.
Because of this, I try not to judge cartwheels or pool repairs or working out or other unseemly behaviors. (Not always successful at not judging but I try.) JMO.
 
So, the Grandma sent a legal eviction notice to her daughter while grandma was out of town working. On top of this, the court finalizes the paperwork that the daughter will owe grandma $150 a month in child support. This is so sad for the children knowing that the mother is probably very upset by both of these.

I would imagine that grandma is extremely upset and feeling desperate. This was not a good situation for those little children.

Please find Quinton! Please let him beat the odds and be alive.
 
This has been my thought since the beginning. We (or I at least) do not know how or why Gma retained custody. It could have been court ordered, it could have been voluntary by the mother.

It appears to me Gma stepped up and took care of her grandbabies, loved them and provided for them. At the same time Gma was trying to help her daughter with a new baby.

So sad people are going through this ordeal when little Quinton's location is unknown. It is mental torture.

Sending blessings to Quinton and those that loved him.

WS member, family, and all. I am so sorry to have used the word 'loved' in the last sentence. Please accept my correction to replace the word with "love'.

Sending blessings to Quinton and those that love him.
 
I get the sense that nothing pertaining to the grandma's supposed custody of the two older kids was ever handled legally. Sounds like just a "here, you take'em then", or a "just let me take care of them, since you can't" type deal, similar to the babysitter was not a legal childcare provider, but more a "hey, since you're at home all day anyway, I could use a babysitter. I'll even pay you a little money under the table". I think the only times any of them ever used an attorney was when one happened to be in legal trouble. I hope they have one on speed dial, because I think one or more is soon going to need one. JMO
I think there's a child support order. I don't think you can claim child support for a kid not in your custody.
 
HEADS UP re: legal custody & eviction filing - the excellent timeline created & updated by @wnk explains all with links to sources that provide backup.
UPDATE #3 (Oct 12) with new info in RED; corrected info in GRAY

~2019
Q's older brother, Z, born - current age "around 3" (18@1:35)

~Feb 2021
Q born - current age 20 months (14)

~Jul 2021 ("since Q was five months old")
GrandmaBJH awarded custody of Q and Q's older brother (14)

Apr 2022
GA Dept of Human Services sued to require MomLS to remit monthly child support payments for her two sons (34)

~Apr 2022 ("about six months ago")
SitterDM began watching Q & Z (9@0:28) at GrandmaBJH's request (36@1:16:11)

~summer 2022 ("within the past couple of months")
MomLS moved in with her mother GrandmaBJH (14)
MomLS gave birth to Q's younger sister (14), whom SitterDM also watched (36@1:25:40)


Wed Sep 7
MomLS called police during argument with GrandmaBJH, during which MomLS stated she was on probation and didn't want trouble and MomLS's brother stated that MomLS had history of stealing to buy drugs (22)

Thu Sep 8
GrandmaBJH filed eviction notice for MomLS and MomsBoyfriendDY, stating that they damaged her property (22)

Fri Sep 16
Sheriff's office mailed MomLS and MomsBoyfriendDY eviction notice from GrandmaBJH (14)

Wed Sep 21
After MomLS failed to appear in court, judge stipulated that she pay $150/month in child support beginning November 1 (34)

sometime in Sep 2022
GrandmaBJH left for 3-week work assignment in IL, hoping to get back before evicted daughter MomLS and MomsBoyfriendDY move out (14)

around Mon Sep 26 - Sat Oct 1
MomLS and MomsBoyfriendDY presumably received eviction notice from GrandmaBJH (14)


Tue Oct 4
SitterDM watched kids, who then went home that night (9@0:30) around 4:30 or 5PM (36@1:21:55)


WEDN OCT 5: LAST REPORTED SIGHTING / DAY ONE OF SEARCH
search incl. residence & neighborhood - drone, K9, dive team, helicopter

  • 5:29AM - SitterDM received text [[from MomLS (22)] from MomsBoyfriendDY (36@1:22:20)] that she would not be babysitting Q & Z that morning (9@0:44)
  • 6:00AM - LAST REPORTED SIGHTING (1) by MomsBoyfriendDY (14) when he left for work that morning (22) and by MomLS, who told police she saw him in his playpen (25@0:45); According to StepGrandpaTH (who owns the house but was out of town; GrandmaBJH was still driving in from out of state), people at home at the time: MomLS, MomsBoyfriendDY, 3 kids, MomsBrother (7)
  • 7:30AM-8:30AM - SitterDM and family outside home across the street but did not see Q (36@1:26:30)
  • 9:00AM - SitterDM received text [from a grandparent (22)] [from MomsBoyfriendDY (36@1:44:30)] asking if she'd seen them, but when she went to residence to help search, she was turned away (9@1:03); SitterDM states that she told MomLS to call police (36@1:30:00)
  • [TIME?] - GrandmaBJH learned about Q's disappearance from phone call from SitterDM (14)
  • 9:30AM (14) 9:39AM (17@2:55) - Reported missing to authorities by MomLS (1) who said she "woke up, her door was open... thinks someone came in and took him" (32@0:13)
  • 9:42AM - LE dispatched to residence (1), searched home (4)
  • around 10:15AM ("about a half hour later") - SitterDM offered to watch other children, took them home with her (36@1:33:00)
  • 12:34PM - CCPD state they are searching area on foot with a drone and K9 unit (1)
  • 2:04PM - CCPD state they are shutting down Chatham Parkway, Louis B Mills, and Buckhalter Rd to continue search (1)
  • 2:48PM - CCPD state that Buckhalter Rd was reopened (1)
  • around 3PM - StepGrandpaTH arrived home from out of town (16@0:02)
  • 3:33PM - ChiefJH met with media - nothing to indicate abduction; "does not appear to be a custody dispute, and all parties are cooperating"; have responded to two calls for service at the home in the last two years (neither for missing child) (2)
  • 5:58PM - @BrettWSAV states FBI assisting (6)
  • 6:52PM - CCPD state ground search continues; plan to search with helicopter and heat-seeking tech (2)
  • [TIME?] - Dive team also on scene (7) - possibly to search pool, which is included in later list of locations searched within first five days (25@0:55)
  • 10:08PM - CCPD state 75 LE officers and volunteers combed area (2)
  • [TIME?] - LE secured search warrant for residence (10@1:15)
  • PM - FBI Evidence Response Team & CCPD search home with flashlights & cameras (8)
  • PM - LE cruiser remained on scene at residence overnight (14)
  • [TIME?] - LE contacted BioDad and "did not believe he was involved" (4) due to the fact he "works very much, very north of here" (10@0:34), despite MomLS telling StepGrandpaTH that BioDad came and picked him up (7)
  • [TIME?] - neighbors state they'd seen Q out wandering the home and street in the past (7)

Thur Oct 6: DAY TWO
search incl. neighborhood, trash cans, sheds on grandparents' other property, "other locations" - ATVs

  • 2:00AM - Search ended for night (17@1:35)
  • 3:30AM - GrandmaBJH arrived home (16@0:03) but with crime scene tape up had to stay in motel (14)
  • 5:53AM - CCPD states no overnight developments (3)
  • 8:00AM - Searching resumed (17@1:35)
  • 10:11AM - FBI on scene with ATVs (11), searching trash cans in neighborhood including SitterDM's (12) and locked sheds on StepGrandpaTH's other property (15)
  • around 11:00 AM - FBI returned to residence after sweep of neighborhood (18@0:54)
  • 11:11AM - LE is "obtaining other search warrants at other locations today" (13)
  • AM - GrandmaBJH, who was working out of town in IL, states in phone interview with media "I couldn’t imagine that she would hurt one of her kids but I can’t say the thought hasn’t gone through my mind a hundred thousand times" (14), states on camera, "I don't know what to believe right now... I don't know if I can trust her" (16@1:09)
  • AM - ChiefJH states at presser that they are conducting interviews and "downloading phones and things of that nature" today (17@0:35)
  • AM - Neighbors claim MomLS and MomsBoyfriendDY returned to residence that morning after questioning (19)
  • 6:00PM - arguing is heard throughout the day, including at 6PM as recorded in VIDEO @ timestamp 1:30 (19)
  • PM - BioDad on his way from out of town to help search (18@1:50)

Fri Oct 7: DAY THREE
search incl. phone data, ponds with waders and poles

  • 10:00AM - ChiefJH gives update as part of Chatham County Commission Meeting - exhausted grid search; still investigating collected phone data and other avenues; still being assisted by FBI (20)
  • 2:00PM - search continues; pond searched with waders & poles (21)
  • [TIME?] ReporterBB(WSAV) requests bodycam video from responding officers to the missing persons call (28) - xrf Mon Oct 10
  • [TIME?] Search warrant issued for swimming pool at residence (34)
Sat Oct 8: DAY FOUR
  • 8:09AM - CCPD update on SM - still searching along with FBI, no need of volunteers (23)
Sun Oct 9: DAY FIVE
  • 9:34AM - CCPD update on SM - "re-canvassing some specific areas" along with FBI (24)
  • 2:03PM - CCPD update on SM with poster & tip line (26)
Mon Oct 10: DAY SIX
search incl. emptying swimming pool

  • 8:58AM - CCPD update on SM - "no overnight developments," will have presser at 2PM (27)
  • 10:53AM - ReporterBB(WSAV) posts that request for body cam footage has been denied by county attorney "due to an ongoing criminal prosecution and investigation" (28) - xref Fri Oct 7
  • 12:10AM - ReporterBB(WSAV) posts that county attorney claims clerical error on previous statement, now held "due to ongoing law enforcement investigation" (29) - xref Fri Oct 7
  • 1:21PM - ReporterBB(WSAV) posts video of LE with "at least 11 police cars" using a pump to drain the pool at the residence. (30)
  • 2:28PM - ChiefJH spoke at police presser: over 40 FBI agents supporting investigation as requested by CCPD (31@0:40) - "don't have anything confirmed... looking at criminal investigation aspect" but "everybody is being looked at" (31@1:54) - went back to re-search home today (31@3:53) - "can't answer" if family members continue to be cooperative (31@5:30) - do not know where MomLS & MomsBoyfriendDY are currently but ChiefJH believes they have been staying at residence (31@5:53) - feels they have gotten further along in investigation but can't give specifics (31@7:25) - BioDad not a suspect (31@9:06)
  • 3:08PM - Chatham Fire Dept at residence with hose trucks, presumably to assist in draining swimming pool (33)
  • [TIME?] - FBI tapes black plastic over windows of residence, presumably to search for evidence using luminol (34)
  • 4:06PM - Police and First Responders have left residence (33)
  • 4:32PM - Q's family has returned to residence, declines to speak to journalist (33)
  • PM - "Gray Hughes Investigates" channel livestreams reaction to SitterDM's FB live stream -
    • SitterDM kept kids daily from around 5:30 or 6 until 3:30 or later (36@1:21:15) on Mondays through Fridays and sometimes at night (36@1:21:50); charged $30/day for two boys, didn't charge for baby sister S (36@1:25:40);
    • SitterDM states BJH worked out of town (36@1:17:11); she would call/text GrandmaBJH if she noticed things wrong, including:
      • SitterDM had to call MomsBoyfriendDY to get milk for Q's baby sister S [on unknown date] (36@1:19:00);
      • SitterDM sent BJH pictures of bruises on Q [on unknown date] (36@1:19:10); "the other day" [unknown date] Q had belt bruises on arm and neck (36@1:41:42)
    • SitterDM offered to keep children [on unknown date] until GrandmaBJH got home but GrandmaBJH wanted to give MomLS a second chance (36@1:20:00);
    • SitterDM outlines follwing timeline:
      • Tue 4:30 or 5:00PM - kids went home (36@1:21:55) - crf Tue Oct 4;
      • Wed 5:29AM - received text from MomsBoyfriendDY saying the kids are not coming, MomLS is with them (36@1:22:20) - crf Wed Oct 5;
      • Wed 7:30AM SitterDM's husband left for work (36@1:25:50);
      • Wed 8:30AM SitterDM's son left for work (36@1:26:00);
      • SitterDM outside from 7:30AM-8:30AM and did not see Q (36@1:26:30) - crf Wed Oct 5;
      • Wed 9:00AM "have you seen Q" text from MomsBoyfriendDY while SitterDM was on way home from McDonald's; called him back; he said they couldn't find Q (36@1:44:30) - crf Wed Oct 5;
      • SitterDM offered to help look, MomBoyfriendDY said, "we already looked;" MomLS sitting on porch smoking (36@1:27:15);
      • SitterDM called GrandmaBJH, told MomLS to call police (36@1:30:00), police came and blocked SitterDM in (36@1:30:45) - crf Wed Oct 5;
      • around 10:15AM - SitterDM came back "about a half hour later," offered to take other kids, called GrandmaBJH (36@1:33:00) - crf Wed Oct 5; "this morning" [unknown date], GrandmaBJH came to SitterDM's house to confront her, accuse her of kidnapping (36@1:25:45)
Tue Oct 11: DAY SEVEN
  • 10:18AM - CCPD update on SM - LE has "seized evidence that we believe will help move this case forward" (35)
  • 6:58PM - Video posted of confrontation between GrandmaBJH & SitterDM [from unknown date] regarding memorial/prayer service being organized by SitterDM; SitterDM states that Georgia DCFC has open case involving Q (37)
  • [TIME?] GrandmaBJH's FB had post asking for help getting pool fixed; post has since been removed (37)
Wed Oct 12: DAY EIGHT
  • 10:19AM - CCPD update on SM - LE will be at residence with search dogs and investigators; expect to schedule presser for tomorrow. (38)
  • 11:54AM - ReporterBB (WSAV) posts video of FBI SUVs pulling into driveway next door to residence (39)
  • 12:51PM - ReporterBB (WSAV) posts video of MomLS and unknown passenger refusing to speak to media, leaving neighborhood in white Chevy Silverado (40)

SOURCES
(1) ChathamCountyPD FB post (Oct 5)
(2) ChathamCountyPD FB post (Oct 5)
(3) ChathamCountyPD FB post (Oct 5)
(4) Police searching for missing toddler in Georgia neighborhood (APNews - Oct 5)
(5) Search for toddler missing from coastal Georgia neighborhood continues (Fox5 - Oct 5)
(6) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 5)
(7) Chatham County police, neighbors search for missing 20-month-old child (WSAV - Oct 5)
(8) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 5)
(9) WSAV3 video (Oct 5)
(10) WSAV FB video (Oct 5)
(11) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 6)
(12) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 6)
(13) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 6)
(14) Search continues for Chatham Co. toddler last seen Wednesday morning (WTOC - Oct 6)
(15) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 6)
(16) Grandparents comment on missing Chatham County toddler VIDEO (WJCL - Oct 6)
(17) Chatham County Police Chief gives update on missing toddler search VIDEO (WJCL - Oct 6)
(18) Reporter @SarahWinkelmann tweet including VIDEO (WTOC - Oct 6)
(19) Toddler Missing More Than 40 Hours, Neighbors Hear Arguments... (WSAV - Oct 6)
(20)
Chatham County Police enters 3rd day in search for missing toddler, Quinton Simon (Fox28 - Oct 7)
(21) Grandparents plead for answers as search for missing Chatham County toddler enters third day (WJCL - Oct 7)
(22) Timeline: What has happened since 20-month-old Quinton Simon went missing (WSAV - Oct 7)
(23) ChathamCounty PD FB post (Oct 8)
(24) ChathamCounty PD FB post (Oct 9)
(25) Search for Missing Toddler Quinton Simon enters fifth day, VIDEO (WJCL - Oct 9)
(26) ChathamCounty PD FB post (Oct 9)
(27) ChathamCounty PD FB psot (Oct 10)
(28) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 10)
(29) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 10
(30) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 10)
(31) ChathamCounty PD FB VIDEO (Oct 10)
(32) Search for missing Georgia toddler Quinton Simon continues VIDEO (NBC - Oct 10)
(33) Reporter @sheaschrader tweet thread (Oct 10)
(34) Chatham County Police Chief says search for missing child now also a criminal investigation (SavannahNow - Oct 10)
(35) ChathamCounty PD FB post (Oct 11)
(36) Gray Hughes Investigates VIDEO (Oct 10) - "Timothy Haslett - Debbie Collier - Chloe Campbell - Quinton Simon" (Quinton's segment begins at 1:00:00)
(37) 'My Baby's Not Dead': Heated Exchange Between grandmother, babysitter of missing toddler... (WSAV - Oct 11)
(38) ChathamCounty PD FB post (Oct 12)
(39) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 12)
(40) Reporter @BrettWSAV tweet (Oct 12)
I am puzzled by the ongoing debate/questions about this family's custody & eviction situation.

The above quoted post comes from a separate Timeline Thread for this case.

Like many of you, I would like to know the involvement of Q & Z's fathers in their lives. Since BJH has legal custody they must have agreed to it or even relinquished rights to allow it. If anyone who can clarify that, I would be most appreciative.

As to the father of the baby girl, is he still living in BJH's home? Just curious if anyone knows.

MOO
 
Some custody arrangements are informal. I had such an agreement with two neighbor teens years ago. They had a bad home situation. one needed out immediately for a few months till they turned 18 at which point the judge would emancipate them. The judge came to my house to practically beg us to take the teen to keep them out of juvenile hall as there were no foster homes available. So we did. We also ended up with a sibling for a few months.
 
We have a septic and the opening is right in our DRIVEWAY. We didn’t put it there. Anyway over time, delivery trucks running over the bolts eventually broke one and it was loose, and the lid slid open an inch or two. At the time I had a toddler, about 2, and I was absolutely TERRIFIED about the lid shifting! We weren’t outside much at the time because it was winter. But still. My husband ordered a new lid, it’s metal and about 100 lbs, I can’t budge it- and I tried, to make sure no one else could either. Anyway, they aren’t all buried, and some have very easy access.

My thought is that if LE haven’t searched it for Quinton, it’s because maybe they have evidence indicating that they don’t have to? :(
 
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I've been following from the beginning and just want to let everyone, especially anyone new to the case, know that there is an EXCELLENT timeline created by a WS member, of every known event in this case and is kept up to date on the other media thread (no commenting there). It's worth checking out and might save someone the trouble of asking a question that's already been answered.❤

GA - GA - Quinton Simon, 1, Savannah, 5 Oct 2022 TIMELINE/MEDIA/MAPS *NO DISCUSSION*
 
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Some custody arrangements are informal. I had such an agreement with two neighbor teens years ago. They had a bad home situation. one needed out immediately for a few months till they turned 18 at which point the judge would emancipate them. The judge came to my house to practically beg us to take the teen to keep them out of juvenile hall as there were no foster homes available. So we did. We also ended up with a sibling for a few months.
Some custody arrangements may be informal. The one involving Quinton & his older brother is not. It is a well-documented legal custody, as recently posted in a Timeline with proof in this thread.
 
HEADS UP re: legal custody & eviction filing - the excellent timeline created & updated by @wnk explains all with links to sources that provide backup.

I am puzzled by the ongoing debate/questions about this family's custody & eviction situation.

The above quoted post comes from a separate Timeline Thread for this case.

Like many of you, I would like to know the involvement of Q & Z's fathers in their lives. Since BJH has legal custody they must have agreed to it or even relinquished rights to allow it. If anyone who can clarify that, I would be most appreciative.

As to the father of the baby girl, is he still living in BJH's home? Just curious if anyone knows.

MOO
I think I was writing a similar post while you were writing this one. :)

I would just like to add that apparently BJH and TH (stepgrandfather) have legal custody of the two older grandchildren. Having to work is a real thing and sometimes BJH's work took her out of town. I don't fault her for that. I don't know, but am curious, whether stepgranddad TH's trip out of town was a planned or spontaneous event. Unfortunately, with BJH gone, TH would have been the responsible custodial adult, but for whatever reason he ended up out of town also. If I recall correctly, the babysitter was going to keep the children overnight, but BJH ultimately decided to give bio-mom, LS, another chance.

Curious about the role the bio dads of the two boys have had also.
 
The mother of missing Georgia toddler Quinton Simon, who was last seen one week ago, was photographed leaving her family’s home Wednesday for the first time since the boy disappeared.

Leilani Simon, 22, was spotted leaving her family’s Savannah house on Wednesday afternoon before returning shortly thereafter. Photographs captured by Fox News Digital show the brunette covering her face with her hand as she drives away from the residence in a white pickup truck.

Simon has not responded to Fox News Digital’s request seeking comment regarding the disappearance of her son.

Mother of missing Georgia toddler Quinton Simon pictured for first time since boy’s disappearance

Filling my deleted post, repeat info
 
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The point I've been focused on is not whether the grandparents have legal custody or not. I believe they do. For me, the road to obtaining legal custody would give a much clearer picture of why.

For instance, in many cases CPS is involved and recommends to a court that custody be removed from mother.

In other cases a mother simply agrees to give legal custody to another.

As other here I also have been involved with foster care, including one that involved a relative of mine. The relative agreed to turn two of her children over to me. This was done in a lawyer's office, the lawyer sent it to a judge to legalize the agreement. CPS was not involved nor were there any restriction or conditions. (until relative decided she wanted to be a mother again. 2 years later. Then it ended with a court order custody.)
 
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