In legal jargon people usually say "rip apart" to really mean test on cross-examination, question parts of the story, challenge the witness. You're not doing it to be mean, it's your job to test the story and let the jury decide for itself.
If Kaylee was in her own room to start, I'm thinking not playing, but the dog was barking and Kaylee was trying to calm him. And yes, left the room, closing the door behind her so Murphy wouldn't go all over the house, went to see what the noise was and walked into it.
or something he saw on social media from the victims set him off…
Tight timelines, violent crimes usually happen suddenly and fast. almost all of them are ambushes.
I think LE has already timed this out and can easily prove all 4 murders happened in this time frame. Two were found in the same bed, both could easily be killed in under 90 seconds if not quicker. From what little we do know, I would think all murders happened very quickly since no one had a chance to escape where they were being killed, as of now no evidence that anyone made it out to a hallway, etc. I don’t think this was staged and anyone else is involved MOO
From affidavit:
“D.M. stated she originally went to sleep in her bedroom on the southeast side of the second floor. D.M. stated she was awoken at approximately 4:00 a-m. by what she stated sounded like Goncalves playing wilh her dog in one of the upstairs bedrooms, which were located on the third floor. A short time later, D.M. said she heard who she thought was Goncalves say something to the effect of "there’s someone here." A review of records obtained from a forensic download of Kernodle's phone showed this could also have been Kernodle as her cellular phone indicated she was likely awake and using the TikTok app at approximately 4:12 a.m- D.M. stated she looked out of her bedroom but did not see anything when she heard the comment about someone being in the house. D.M. Stated she opened her door a second time when she heard what she thought was crying coming from Kernodle's room. D.M. then said she heard a male voice say something to the effect of "it's ok, I'm going to help you." At approximately 4:17 a.m., a security camera located at 1122 King Road, a residence immediately to the northwest of 1122 King Road, picked up distorted audio of what sounded like voices or a whimper followed by a loud thud. A dog can also be heard barking numerous times starting at 4:17 a-m. The security camera is less than fifty feet from the west wall of Kernodle's bedroom. D.M. stated she opened her door for the third time after she heard the crying and a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person's mouth and nose walking towards her. D.M. described the figure as 5' I 0" or taller, male, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows. The male walked past D.M. as she stood in a "frozen shock phase." The male walked towards the back sliding glass door. D.M locked herself in her room after seeing male.”
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I thought X was in bed with E in the hall? I figured it was MMfirst since the sheath was next to her, KG second, and E heard something, went into the hallway, gets killed and then BK encounters X either in the doorway or in bed and kills her in bed...unless I'm totally off.
It's really a witch hunt on other sites with people attacking her.I hope she has family and friends around her.
The only thing I can think of is maybe the police initially found DM's story to be so strange that they thought it couldn't possibly be true, much like how in the Orsolya Gaal case the police initially took the young teenage son into custody (Orsolya was murdered by the family handyman who she had had an affair with in the basement while her son was asleep in his room on the 2nd floor and didn't hear anything). They may have thought she was somehow involved and was trying to pin it on a 'bogeyman dressed in all black sneaking in at 4am.' We know now that there was indeed a bogeyman -- Bryan Kohberger -- but in the first day or so of the investigation they may have assumed DM's story was too far-fetched to be true.
So right about this. She will look unreliable, when while some of us may question, there is little she could have done to change the end result. Perhaps just alerting authorities quicker would be the only real change. He killed them all within minutes.
Exactly
Post-covid many people still wear masks… pre-covid it may have been more suspicious imo
I hate that I can’t stop thinking of this but I agree. He killed Maddie. Kaylee may have been the one saying there’s someone here. Maybe playing with the dog is actually her getting up to check on Maddie. He pulls her into Maddie’s room and kills her. Then he gets xana. Then Ethan. He left because of the scream maybe. But man it’s quick.
Ok, sounds like I took rip apart too literally. ofc they will cross her but I would think they would do so in a tread lightly kind of way. Not rip apart kind of way.
4:17 would of been close to the time that he was walking through the house and out the door. If someone was at our door, opens it, shuts it or whatever our dogs go crazy.
Uggh another monster I never wanted to see ever againWell it is pretty standard to have the camera on whoever is speaking in Court proceedings.
Could seem prejudicial if it stayed on the Defendants.
We don’t want to have cameras not allowed at all, like in the Frazee trial. His Defense complained that the cameras stayed zoomed in on him and folk were making fun of his pink handcuffs. ( it was true).
Judge boots cameras from Patrick Frazee hearing over missing Woodland Park woman Kelsey Berreth
No cameras will be permitted in court Friday, May 24, 2019, when Patrick Frazee of Florissant, Colorado, is arraigned on first-degree murder charges in the disappearance and presumed killing ofgazette.com
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It is a very short amount of time. Still, a doordash delivery could take less than a minute. Park, hop out, leave the bag somewhere, drive off.
