4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 74

isabella88 · Mar 10, 2023

isabella88 said:
This is LONG, so please delete if necessary. For every doc in today's doc dump, I added context for quick reference about what the doc covers.

isabella88 · Mar 10, 2023

Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc said:
Something I noticed.
The bank warrants have three other people with their names redacted.
Who could these three other people be?
The housemates and BK?

Could be. Or could be the two surviving roommates and the sixth roommate who wasn't living there anymore but who was on the lease. Sixth person may have also lived at house where Idaho students were murdered

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc said:
Something I noticed.
The bank warrants have three other people with their names redacted.
Who could these three other people be?
The housemates and BK?
ETA: The only one that I cannot see redactions for is AMEX, but that doesn't mean there are not redactions, it is in a different format to the others

they actually have 5 names redacted on most. I made a summary of them so we can see how many requested, how many had account information. Even with the two roommates and the 6th on the lease, that leaves two unanswered out of five - and that's assuming the first three are the roomies.

isabella88 · Mar 10, 2023

Sister Golden Hair said:
they actually have 5 names redacted on most. I made a summary of them so we can see how many requested, how many had account information. Even with the two roommates and the 6th on the lease, that leaves two unanswered out of five - and that's assuming the first three are the roomies.

Perhaps the boyfriend of K & M? Too tired to check the dates but if it was early on, could be them. Those two poor boys have been through hell. JMO

Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc · Mar 10, 2023

Sister Golden Hair said:
they actually have 5 names redacted on most. I made a summary of them so we can see how many requested, how many had account information. Even with the two roommates and the 6th on the lease, that leaves two unanswered out of five - and that's assuming the first three are the roomies.

This is very intriguing.
Who else could it be? I mean, it could be anyone (in our view and perspective), but it's curious.

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

isabella88 said:
I filled in a ton of info that was missing in my initial list but I'm unable to edit my OG post or the one I made in the media thread. Can't delete them and start over either. Here's the updated list before I turn in for the night:

2/28/23 Releases:
Kaylee: Reddit
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Knife Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Amazon.pdf
All 4 Victims’ AMEX: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - American Express.pdf
Ethan Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple.pdf
Kaylee Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 1.pdf
Maddie Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 2.pdf
Xana Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 3.pdf
AT&T GPS (for who?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf
All 4 Victims’ BOA Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Bank of America.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Banner Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Banner Bank.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Block, Inc. Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Block.pdf
Blue Ridge Knives Sale Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Blue Ridge Knives.pdf
Charter Communications Request for Info (victims’ home wifi?) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Charter Communications.pdf
Coeur d’ Alene Police Forensic Lab: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - Coeur dAlene Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Discover Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Discover Bank.pdf
DropBox: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Dropbox.pdf
ebay Knife Sales Search:
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay%201.pdf
Kaylee Elan Financial Services: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Elan Financial Services.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Idaho Credit Union Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Central Credit Union.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records ID Dept of Labor: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Department of Labor.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Numerica Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Numerica Credit Union.pdf
-(11.27.22 pg 2) 5 redacted names
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Potlach Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Potlatch No 1 Financial Credit Untion P1FCU.pdf
Wells Fargo: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
- 3 redacted names
AT&T Records (?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - ATT.pdf
Cell Tower GPS records - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf

3/7/23 Releases:
Verizon Wireless: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Verizon Wireless.pdf
WSU Registrar: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Washington State University.pdf
DoorDash Delivery to Victims’ Home: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - DoorDash Inc.pdf
Extreme Networks Decryption of Kaylee’s Laptop: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Extreme Networks.pdf
Google Accounts:
BK - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google.pdf
Kaylee - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google%201.pdf
Inland Cellular (Moscow, ID) Tower Data Dump: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Inland Cellular.pdf
KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - KA-BAR Knives Inc.pdf
Match, LLC (Match.com & Tinder):
- BK Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 2.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 4.pdf
- Kaylee TinderAccount: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 1.pdf
- Maddie Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 3.pdf
META:
-Girls’ and Ethan IG Accounts: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc.pdf
-Facebook Accounts of:
-Maddie - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 1.pdf
-Ethan - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 2.pdf
-Xana - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22 2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Meta%20Platforms%20Inc%204.pdf
-Xana IG Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 4.pdf
-Kaylee Facebook & Instagram: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 5.pdf
BK Phone Data MPD: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Moscow Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
PayPal/Venmo Financial Records for 4 Victims & 3 Others: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - PaypalVenmo.pdf
Kaylee & “-4818” Reddit Account(s): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Snapchat:
- Maddie: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat.pdf
- X, K & E plus 3 Redacted Names: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat%201.pdf
T-Mobile Redacted Name (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile.pdf
T-Mobile GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile 1.pdf
Umpqua Bank Security Cameras (Moscow, ID): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
UPS Delivery Truck Video (Pullman, WA): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - United Parcel Service UPS.pdf
Verizon Wireless Records (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless.pdf
Verizon Wireless GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless 1.pdf
Walmart KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Wal-Mart Stores Inc.pdf
Kaylee’s Yahoo Email Address (asking for 8/1/22 to 11/13/22!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yahoo.pdf
Yik Yak App of BK: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yik Yak Inc.pdf

3/8/23
Google Services(?):
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google%201.pdf

thank you again! this is really awesome and I'm bookmarking it because I have so many questions now...

acutename · Mar 10, 2023

isabella88 said:
I filled in a ton of info that was missing in my initial list but I'm unable to edit my OG post or the one I made in the media thread. Can't delete them and start over either. Here's the updated list before I turn in for the night:

2/28/23 Releases:
Kaylee: Reddit
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Knife Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Amazon.pdf
All 4 Victims’ AMEX: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - American Express.pdf
Ethan Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple.pdf
Kaylee Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 1.pdf
Maddie Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 2.pdf
Xana Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 3.pdf
AT&T GPS (for who?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf
All 4 Victims’ BOA Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Bank of America.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Banner Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Banner Bank.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Block, Inc. Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Block.pdf
Blue Ridge Knives Sale Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Blue Ridge Knives.pdf
Charter Communications Request for Info (victims’ home wifi?) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Charter Communications.pdf
Coeur d’ Alene Police Forensic Lab: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - Coeur dAlene Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Discover Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Discover Bank.pdf
DropBox: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Dropbox.pdf
ebay Knife Sales Search:
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay%201.pdf
Kaylee Elan Financial Services: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Elan Financial Services.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Idaho Credit Union Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Central Credit Union.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records ID Dept of Labor: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Department of Labor.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Numerica Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Numerica Credit Union.pdf
-(11.27.22 pg 2) 5 redacted names
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Potlach Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Potlatch No 1 Financial Credit Untion P1FCU.pdf
Wells Fargo: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
- 3 redacted names
AT&T Records (?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - ATT.pdf
Cell Tower GPS records - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf

3/7/23 Releases:
Verizon Wireless: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Verizon Wireless.pdf
WSU Registrar: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Washington State University.pdf
DoorDash Delivery to Victims’ Home: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - DoorDash Inc.pdf
Extreme Networks Decryption of Kaylee’s Laptop: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Extreme Networks.pdf
Google Accounts:
BK - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google.pdf
Kaylee - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google%201.pdf
Inland Cellular (Moscow, ID) Tower Data Dump: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Inland Cellular.pdf
KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - KA-BAR Knives Inc.pdf
Match, LLC (Match.com & Tinder):
- BK Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 2.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 4.pdf
- Kaylee TinderAccount: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 1.pdf
- Maddie Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 3.pdf
META:
-Girls’ and Ethan IG Accounts: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc.pdf
-Facebook Accounts of:
-Maddie - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 1.pdf
-Ethan - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 2.pdf
-Xana - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22 2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Meta%20Platforms%20Inc%204.pdf
-Xana IG Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 4.pdf
-Kaylee Facebook & Instagram: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 5.pdf
BK Phone Data MPD: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Moscow Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
PayPal/Venmo Financial Records for 4 Victims & 3 Others: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - PaypalVenmo.pdf
Kaylee & “-4818” Reddit Account(s): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Snapchat:
- Maddie: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat.pdf
- X, K & E plus 3 Redacted Names: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat%201.pdf
T-Mobile Redacted Name (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile.pdf
T-Mobile GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile 1.pdf
Umpqua Bank Security Cameras (Moscow, ID): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
UPS Delivery Truck Video (Pullman, WA): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - United Parcel Service UPS.pdf
Verizon Wireless Records (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless.pdf
Verizon Wireless GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless 1.pdf
Walmart KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Wal-Mart Stores Inc.pdf
Kaylee’s Yahoo Email Address (asking for 8/1/22 to 11/13/22!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yahoo.pdf
Yik Yak App of BK: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yik Yak Inc.pdf

3/8/23
Google Services(?):
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google%201.pdf

Is the UPS video them delivering the murder weapon to BK's apt?

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

isabella88 said:
Perhaps the boyfriend of K & M? Too tired to check the dates but if it was early on, could be them. Those two poor boys have been through hell. JMO

could be, but they were ruled out pretty quickly. I don't want to assume, esp since many of the warrants leave out the and/or when referring to reasons for redaction/sealing - they just leave the 'and'. I think there's a witness we might not know about, and I think there are many unanswered questions. this is jmo imo suspicious mind etc.

isabella88 · Mar 10, 2023

acutename said:
Is the UPS video them delivering the murder weapon to BK's apt?

They requested video from the time period between 11/6/22 through 11/14/22, so possible? JMO

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc said:
This is very intriguing.
Who else could it be? I mean, it could be anyone (in our view and perspective), but it's curious.

I have many questions, but if you look at the warrants, you'll see that the reasons for them to remain sealed are listed, include confidential witness, and the 'and/or' is taken out - meaning all of the reasons given are valid. the 'or' is left in on some, but taken out on many.

I believe BK is most likely the killer, but I believe there are holes in the case, and I think it's more complex than we know. I think that's why so much is sealed and the reason for the gag order. but icbw, this is jmo imo but also ime.

editing to add: intuition tells me the answers are in the overlapping accounts.

isabella88 · Mar 10, 2023

Sister Golden Hair said:
I think there's a witness we might not know about, and I think there are many unanswered questions.

I've wondered about another possible witness, too. LE has tons of answers they are rightfully not sharing. But this is a case I suspect will always leave unanswered questions. So many victims and such brutality. Ugh. I'm going to soak in a warm tub and get to sleep. Have a good night!

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

Sister Golden Hair said:
could be, but they were ruled out pretty quickly. I don't want to assume, esp since many of the warrants leave out the and/or when referring to reasons for redaction/sealing - they just leave the 'and'. I think there's a witness we might not know about, and I think there are many unanswered questions. this is jmo imo suspicious mind etc.

I checked the dates. end of November, so probably not the BFs. Maybe, but I have other thoughts, as well.

Sister Golden Hair · Mar 10, 2023

isabella88 said:
I've wondered about another possible witness, too. LE has tons of answers they are rightfully not sharing. But this is a case I suspect will always leave unanswered questions. So many victims and such brutality. Ugh. I'm going to soak in a warm tub and get to sleep. Have a good night!

totally agree. you earned a great soak and sleep

and when you are back to sleuthing, check what I mean about the and v. and/or on the different warrants. that was not a mistake.

gliving · Mar 10, 2023

I think this looks like a general inquiry. ie, Did BK buy this knife at Amazon? idk

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TeaTime · Mar 10, 2023

No one set BK up.

No one framed him.

No one helped him.

There was only him, no one else.

He acted alone.

It is him.

He did this.

He can no longer live amongst us.

It really isn't so complicated.

I think dad smokes cigars and the DNA was collected from the butts in the trash.

acutename · Mar 10, 2023

gliving said:
I think this looks like a general inquiry. ie, Did BK buy this knife at Amazon? idk

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20222.... typo police

Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc · Mar 11, 2023

Sister Golden Hair said:
I have many questions, but if you look at the warrants, you'll see that the reasons for them to remain sealed are listed, include confidential witness, and the 'and/or' is taken out - meaning all of the reasons given are valid. the 'or' is left in on some, but taken out on many.

I believe BK is most likely the killer, but I believe there are holes in the case, and I think it's more complex than we know. I think that's why so much is sealed and the reason for the gag order. but icbw, this is jmo imo but also ime.

editing to add: intuition tells me the answers are in the overlapping accounts.

I'm impressed with the level of scrutiny; it seems quite adept considering, IIRC, BK had an academic interest in digital forensics.
JMO

schooling · Mar 11, 2023

acutename said:
20222.... typo police

They were requesting sales records from January 1st 2022 up until the day the warrant was served (don't have it in front of me but sometime in november/december of 2022). They are saying that BK could have bought the knife as early as 1/1/2022 in LE's mind.

That's not typo.

Unless i'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

I misunderstood you. I see the extra 2 at the end now!

I wonder why they are only looking as far back as 1 year. i've been an Amazon customer since 2001. God only knows how much crap I've bought.

Nichevo · Mar 11, 2023

gliving said:
I think this looks like a general inquiry. ie, Did BK buy this knife at Amazon? idk

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View attachment 408389

It appears to me that they checked at least five potential sources (sales records) of knife?:

1. Amazon
2. Blue Ridge Knives
3. Ka-Bar
4. Walmart
5. eBay

If so I hope they got a hit for BCK. Wonder how the settled on BlueRidge Knives?

Admittedly just guessing and all MOO

DeDee · Mar 11, 2023

isabella88 said:
I filled in a ton of info that was missing in my initial list but I'm unable to edit my OG post or the one I made in the media thread. Can't delete them and start over either. Here's the updated list before I turn in for the night:

2/28/23 Releases:
Kaylee: Reddit
https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Knife Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Amazon.pdf
All 4 Victims’ AMEX: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - American Express.pdf
Ethan Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple.pdf
Kaylee Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 1.pdf
Maddie Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 2.pdf
Xana Apple: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Apple 3.pdf
AT&T GPS (for who?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf
All 4 Victims’ BOA Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Bank of America.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Banner Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Banner Bank.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Block, Inc. Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Block.pdf
Blue Ridge Knives Sale Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Blue Ridge Knives.pdf
Charter Communications Request for Info (victims’ home wifi?) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Charter Communications.pdf
Coeur d’ Alene Police Forensic Lab: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - Coeur dAlene Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Discover Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Discover Bank.pdf
DropBox: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Dropbox.pdf
ebay Knife Sales Search:
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20and%20Redact%20-%20Ebay%201.pdf
Kaylee Elan Financial Services: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Elan Financial Services.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Idaho Credit Union Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Central Credit Union.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records ID Dept of Labor: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Idaho Department of Labor.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Numerica Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Numerica Credit Union.pdf
-(11.27.22 pg 2) 5 redacted names
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Potlach Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Potlatch No 1 Financial Credit Untion P1FCU.pdf
Wells Fargo: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
- 3 redacted names
AT&T Records (?): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal - ATT.pdf
Cell Tower GPS records - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - ATT.pdf

3/7/23 Releases:
Verizon Wireless: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Verizon Wireless.pdf
WSU Registrar: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal - Washington State University.pdf
DoorDash Delivery to Victims’ Home: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - DoorDash Inc.pdf
Extreme Networks Decryption of Kaylee’s Laptop: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Extreme Networks.pdf
Google Accounts:
BK - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google.pdf
Kaylee - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Google%201.pdf
Inland Cellular (Moscow, ID) Tower Data Dump: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Inland Cellular.pdf
KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - KA-BAR Knives Inc.pdf
Match, LLC (Match.com & Tinder):
- BK Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 2.pdf
- Tinder Redacted?: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 4.pdf
- Kaylee Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 1.pdf
- Maddie Tinder Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Match Group LLC 3.pdf
META:
-Girls’ and Ethan IG Accounts: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc.pdf
-Facebook Accounts of:
-Maddie - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 1.pdf
-Ethan - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 2.pdf
-Xana - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22 2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Meta%20Platforms%20Inc%204.pdf
-Xana IG Account: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 4.pdf
-Kaylee Facebook & Instagram: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Meta Platforms Inc 5.pdf
BK Phone Data MPD: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Moscow Police Department Forensic Lab.pdf
PayPal/Venmo Financial Records for 4 Victims & 3 Others: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - PaypalVenmo.pdf
Kaylee & “-4818” Reddit Account(s): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Redditcom.pdf
Snapchat:
- Maddie: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat.pdf
- X, K & E plus 3 Redacted Names: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723%20Order%20to%20Seal%20%20Redact%20-%20Snap%20Inc%20Snapchat%201.pdf
T-Mobile Redacted Name (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile.pdf
T-Mobile GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - T-Mobile 1.pdf
Umpqua Bank Security Cameras (Moscow, ID): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Umpqua Bank.pdf
UPS Delivery Truck Video (Pullman, WA): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - United Parcel Service UPS.pdf
Verizon Wireless Records (but asking for records from 8/1/22 to present!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless.pdf
Verizon Wireless GPS Records (BK? Asking for 11/13/22 between 3 and 5: a.m.): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Verizon Wireless 1.pdf
Walmart KA-BAR Sales Search: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Wal-Mart Stores Inc.pdf
Kaylee’s Yahoo Email Address (asking for 8/1/22 to 11/13/22!): https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yahoo.pdf
Yik Yak App of BK: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030723 Order to Seal Redact - Yik Yak Inc.pdf

3/8/23
Google Services(?):
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google.pdf
- https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/030823%20Order%20to%20Seal%20-%20Google%201.pdf

That's an appreciated labor intensive post for the warrants, Isabella88. btw- You could go to the OG in the media thread and report it to the Mods by asking them to delete it. Then, post this updated version in the media thread.

It is intriguing the number of warrants issued for financial institutions for all 4 victims. Is it possible that any number of the warrants being returned as No Data Found? It's sorta freakin' me out that all 4 victims had the same affiliations with the same financial institutions.

Why would they have that commonality?

All 4 Victims’ AMEX: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - American Express.pdf
All 4 Victims’ BOA Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Bank of America.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Banner Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Banner Bank.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Discover Bank Records: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Discover Bank.pdf
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Numerica Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Numerica Credit Union.pdf
-(11.27.22 pg 2) 5 redacted names
All 4 Victims’ Financial Records Potlatch Credit Union: https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022823 Order to Seal and Redact - Potlatch No 1 Financial Credit Untion P1FCU.pdf

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