Whisperer Posted:
I am not going to get you the links at the moment. I just reviewed them in the past few days. Try the first one when he is asked about why misty cannot get the story straight and llisten to the answer.
How about the times he has responded with "I am the better parent, simple as that"
(smirks, enjoys tooting his own horn)? "I can provide better"..etc.
If he didn't want to steer it towards a custody circus, he would say, "I don't care to talk about that"....yet, somehow, someway he seems to answer. He initiates it, but it is not obvious.
Maybe you missed it because it is thrown in with another answer the interviewer is attempting to get but never does.
He responds to custody questions a heck of alot better than he responds to any questions about his daughter or why misty is confused.
Whisper Posted:
If, and that's a very big IF, she received a contempt order that day.....do you think she could have planned this whole thing out in an hour or two? How in the world could she have arranged all this and secreted Haleigh for this long?
It seems like you are basing your theory on Crystal receiving a notice of contempt that same day, because RC got one, he says. and Furthermore, you believe she arranged a kidnapping plot immediately and carried it out within hours. That is very hard to digest.
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I forgot to add this; When parents are extremely young, they are sometimes confused and frightened about what to do in serious matters in their life. It appears that neither Ron or Crystal had good role models and they struggled in life and in their own ignorance. If perchance Ron had been controlling, abusing mentally or physically, that he had inspired fear at any time in his chosen other, meaning Crystal and she was a very young girl, it does make sense that she might stumble for whatever reason in defending her child from his onslaught, as in giving up. Feelings of hopelessness could have overtaken her. I see this as very probable. So it is within the realm of reason, that not all parents no matter how fiercely they love their children are in a position to defend them especially from another parent they have depended on for food and care.
I found this in my searching today, here's one man who hasn't backed away from being fair and equal in this case and who thought, as I did, that CS should have fought the custody battle in private:
"MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, yes, but what are we talking about here? You know, my heart is sinking as I listen to all of this. And what`s left of my heart, Crystal, goes out to you. Because I understand what it`s like to lose a child. And I understand the fear and the pain that one goes through during the investigation.
But this path that you`re headed upon now is a complete distraction from the point at hand. And this is something that Ron continually reminds people. Find Haleigh. Don`t take the focus off of Haleigh. And what you`re doing now, if it`s true, has a place. But that place is not to be prosecuting this guy on national TV. This is something that should be done in private."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/18/ng.01.html
Good point Ceeker.
The fact that she LIED about it all to take the focus off of Haleigh is the point now. Why? I keep asking this question and I can not buy it was because she feared for Jr. in the care of his father. Now Misty is another story with Crystal and Marie and they have done their best to hang her dirty laundry out and run her over with the rumor bus, but, again lies have been dismissed (proven to be lies) by LE and she has not been arrested.
Why would Crystal lie? I am sure she was advised by more than Mark Klaas that this was a distraction from finding HaLeigh.
IMO HaLeigh, Jr., Ron and Misty have become victim's of Crystal and her mother Marie in there effort to gain custody and disolve her obliggation of support to her children.
(BBM - lies have been dismissed . . .)
PattyG adding this is fftopic: texasmommy, could you please clarify what "lies" specifically you're referring to? I don't recall LE, at any time, stating that any information that has come to their attention regarding Misty has been/was proven to be lies - granted she has not been arrested, but that is by means proof in and of itself that they were proven to be lies. If you have a link to this statement by LE dismissing the misc. information about Misty because it was proven to be a lie, I'd appreciate it - TIA.
MOO
After almost 6 months it is MO that WS has covered every single lie that has been uttered as truth and I am not going to list for you the obvious. I will offer you this one though Misty hurt, harmed,or killed and hid Haleigh all lies. They have stated she is not a suspect even with her inconsistancies.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y200...
(BBM - lies have been dismissed . . .)
fftopic:
texasmommy, could you please clarify what "lies" specifically you're referring to? I don't recall LE, at any time, stating that any information that has come to their attention regarding Misty has been/was proven to be lies - granted she has not been arrested, but that is by means proof in and of itself that they were proven to be lies. If you have a link to this statement by LE dismissing the misc. information about Misty because it was proven to be a lie, I'd appreciate it - TIA.
MOO
Good point Ceeker.
The fact that she LIED about it all to take the focus off of Haleigh is the point now. Why? I keep asking this question and I can not buy it was because she feared for Jr. in the care of his father. Now Misty is another story with Crystal and Marie and they have done their best to hang her dirty laundry out and run her over with the rumor bus, but, again lies have been dismissed (proven to be lies) by LE and she has not been arrested.
Why would Crystal lie? I am sure she was advised by more than Mark Klaas that this was a distraction from finding HaLeigh.
IMO HaLeigh, Jr., Ron and Misty have become victim's of Crystal and her mother Marie in there effort to gain custody and disolve her obliggation of support to her children.
I don't really see Crystal's comments as "lies." You must factor in education, learning differences, IQ, and just everyday common sense. I see her as confused, not well socialized in conversation with others. I wish she could be asked point blank " Do you
think Ronald would or could injure Haleigh while enraged?"If it was asked of me, I think I would say, yes, he could, but I don't think in everyday ordinary circumstances he would or could. I am saying this and it is merely opinion and speculation, just as trying to guess anyone's intentions in their words. None of these folks are particularly articulate.
]I don't really see Crystal's comments as "lies." You must factor in education, learning differences, IQ, and just everyday common sense. [/B] I see her as confused, not well socialized in conversation with others. I wish she could be asked point blank " Do you
think Ronald would or could injure Haleigh while enraged?"If it was asked of me, I think I would say, yes, he could, but I don't think in everyday ordinary circumstances he would or could. I am saying this and it is merely opinion and speculation, just as trying to guess anyone's intentions in their words. None of these folks are particularly articulate.
As a former abused woman, I can't count how many times I stated to others that I didn't think my husband would ever hurt me or my children; of course this wasn't true. I said it because I was conditioned to, because this is what the majority of people wanted to hear & I was a people-pleaser, & because my abuser could tell me how much he loved me while he was hurting me at the same time(For example- "How could you tell your sister that I did that to you, you lying *****; you know I'd never hurt you, you stupid ***** *smack, *pop, *slam).....In my state of mind, I believed it. It's hard to understand what goes on inside an abused woman's head if you've never been one; however, pretty much all victims can recant the same experiences & confusion though. Your abuser keeps you in a constant state of confusion & self doubt. Most women who are abused by their partners were abused as children as well & it's all they know; that mind-set is normal for them. My point is, maybe this is why Crystal said at one point that she didn't think Ron would hurt Haleigh. MOO, of course!