Amanda Knox New Motivation Report RE: Meredith Kercher Murder #1 *new trial ordered*

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Curious about any areas that haven't been discussed much.

A short list.

The Masonic connection.

Rudy Guede's previous life specifically I never realized that his biological father is actually quite successful. (I am not mixing up his bio father and the man that took him in)

The MSM truly ignored both RG and RS. I did read some articles out of Italy but it was not stuff I for the most part could not comment on due to the limits put on the media there and how inaccurate the reporting was.
 
One thing that has always bothered me was Frank's description of Dr. Giobbi's testimony, back in the fall of 2009. Giobbi testified he heard Amanda scream. It is difficult to see why she would scream if the interrogation were as placid as ILE claims that it was?

TBH, Chris, this has never made much of an impression on me because if you were to look at the screaming from a PG point of view one would assert that it was part of the show she put on when describing how afraid she was of Patrick. I think her 5:45 statement has a footnote about her hitting her head and sobbing. But, I am VERY interested in reading all of Giobbi's testimony as it seems now there is direct proof that Mignini lied about not being at the station until the second statement. I wonder what else his testimony reveals...
 
I think this was expected and IMO will not amount to a hill of beans.
 
I think this was expected and IMO will not amount to a hill of beans.

Interesting you think that, here is a post from Yummi at PMF describing what he thinks about the Prosecution's Appeal:

"Independently from whatever the Supreme Court will decide, the fact that we have now a 100+ pages appeal document against the acquittal signed by Giovanni Galati is a great achievement, the meaning of which will last forever.
As well we have a formal appeal by the Kercher family through Maresca. So we have a clear statement of a definate expressed position of the family and friends of Meredith Kerchers, of twenty-eight judges of various instances, of the Procura of Perugia, and of an officer Prosecution General of the Supreme Court especially threshing Zanetti: Galati is the highest rank magistrate actually in Umbria. We also have the people of Perugia (recall the chanting Vergogna to Hellmann's court). These documents by the Prosecution General and the Kercher will last in history and all those dealing with the knowledge of this case wont be able to hide them or ignore them."

Since I have seen you in other threads observing odd behavior/circumstancial evidence/false statements/bad luck of the accused/good luck of the accused/past behavior/outright lies/etc showing guilt... it makes me wonder why in this case you seem not to even consider the possibility the AK and RS are guilty of at least being accomplices in some way to the murder of Meredith.

I will make a list, but I don't plan to argue my points because I understand that probably each and every one can be poked at in some way or another... no matter how far-fetched or illogical. And this has been done over and over
and I'm not really trying to change anyone's mind. Just basically curious.

1. Both AK and RS claim to have been at RS's on the computer and doing various other things. There is no evidence of this.
2. Both AK and RS turn their phones off the night of the murder. Not usual.
3. AK deletes the message from Patrick, but claims later she didn't know how to delete sent ones.
4. AK states to investigators that they ate dinner late (maybe even 11:30pm) and they had a water leak afterwards. RS's father's blew that alibi when he stated he was told during his call much before 10pm that they had eaten earlier.
5. RS states that AK went back to the cottage that morning with a empty plastic bag and to get the mop. They were supposed to take a trip to Gubio that day... these plans did not happen.
6. AK states she goes back to the cottage to get a mop to clean the water spill from the night before that had to have happened before 9:30pm.
7. AK works a shower story into her return visit to the cottage.
8. AK's story is that she found the front door of the cottage open/unlocked, and noticed blood drops in the sink and bloodstains on the bathmat. Decides to take a shower, jumps in the shower before noticing that there are no towels in the bathroom, and gets out on the bloodstained bathmat. She then uses the bloodstained bathmat to 'shuffle' into the hallway and to her room for towels (also stating her foot may have sliped off the mat a couple of times). During this time her only working light (the lamp found in Meredith's locked room), is not in her room as usual and she does not need a light in the bathroom either because the lightswitch has undisturbed blood smears on it. She then changes clothes and goes to blow dry her hair in the other bathroom (which has poo in the toilet that she doesn't flush). So she thinks nobody is home, the front door is open, there are bloodstains in the sink and on the bathmat, bloodstains on the bathroom lightswitch, her lamp is not in her room, there is unflushed poo in the toilet, AND Meredith's door is shut/locked.
9. There is a bloody bare footprint on the bathmat attributed to RS, not RG although there are plenty of RG's shoeprints in Meredith's room and straight out of the cottage. Were is the rest of the bloody print? Cleaning done?
10. There are bare footprints in the hallway outside of Meredith's room attributed to AK and RS... none for RG. Would this explain the bathmat shuffle story and some mop toting?
11. AK claims to not remember her call to her mother which was the middle of the night for her mother.
12. AK claims to have been present at the cottage after letting Patrick in, and putting her fingers in her ears after hearing Meredith's screaming. Now she is scared of Patrick and he is a bad man... but she had supposidly let him into the cottage and he 'wanted' Meredith.
12. RG happens to have a fancy for AK... not Meredith, as he has let the downstairs boys know this fact.
13. AK actually knew RG having smoked mj around him with the boys, around the basketball court, and at the bars/clubs. If RG is thought to be a small time drug dealer anyway- IMO since AK and RS did do them... they likely knew about one another.
14. A guy is charged for cocaine dealings around Perugia after his phone is contacted BOTH shortly before and shortly after the murder (wasn't she arrested on the night of the 5th) by AK. He first comes under suspicion after investigators find this on her phone.
15. Although worried about the circumstances at the cottage that morning, she returns to RS's apt and they eat brunch and wipe up the spill from the night before before returning to check things out.
16. Upon their return to the cottage they begin to worry over the 'break-in' and thrown clothes on the floor (in Filomena's room) in addition to the blood stains, poo, and Meredith's locked door. In a 'panic' AK goes outside the cottage and tries to look in Meredith's window and RS kicks Meredith's door in an attempt to bust in.
17. AK does not attempt to try and call Meredith's phones from outside the door to see if Meredith is behind the locked door unable to answer.
18. Later before calling Filomena about her worries from the cottage, she had called Meredith's phones and only let them ring a couple of times... IMO this is when the phones were heard in the lady's garden on the outskirts of the town.
19. Filomena told AK to call the police immediately in which AK said she would... she did not.
20. RS states to police in his call that nothing had been stolen. How does he know?
21. When RG is arrested, RS states to his dad in a taped call that he is worried what strange things the arrested Ivorian will say. Why would he be worried... he should be thrilled???
21. In his prison diary writing about Meredith's dna being found on one of his kitchen knives... RS writes a LIE about pricking Meredith while cooking with her even though she had never been to his apt. According to him he said sorry and Meredith forgave him.
22. Patrick in interviews states that AK was not a good worker because she flirted too much. He states that she was going to be demoted to just handing out flyers for the bar and that he told her Meredith was going to come by on certain nights to mix drinks. He states she WAS NOT HAPPY about this revelation.
23. Patrick and AK actually talked to each other after the murder and before she accused him of the crime when she was questioned. If she had been so scared of HIM... why would she have met up with him and talked? Why did she later accuse him of all people? Did she think the bar was closed that night because she had been texted not to come in (which she deleted)?
24. Why if AK was hit or coerced by someone from LE to accuse Patrick can she not identify who from the officers that were there? Why ruin Patrick's life over something he had nothing to do with?
25. RG identified AK and RS as the others having committed the crime after he had already been convicted.
26. Witnesses state having seen both AK and RS near the cottage the night of the murder.
27. Store owner states having seen AK at his shop early the morning after the murder.
28. AK writes a story of a drug/alchohol fueled party and a rape/murder while under arrest.
29. Five instances including one in Filomena's room (where the staging took place) of AK's dna mixed with Meredith's blood. One in the bathroom likely being a AKblood/Meredith's blood mix.
30. Along with the bathmat boogie story AK mentions bleeding ears from piercings when under questioning by investigators to try to explain the possibily of the above and the barefoot prints that may be found in the hallway.
31. RS's sister is relieved of her job with the police for trying to influence proceedings against her bother.
32. AK was even convicted of calunna at appeal... so the forced confession/accusation theory was even denied there.
33. The appeal verdict mainly dismissed the charges due to 2 pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated and without HEARING or SEEING other pieces of evidence. The appeal judge repeatedly makes general statements in his motivation about the young/naive accused and their suffering families.
34. The experts called by the appeal judge did not actually do any new test on the knife as was asked of them... even though the technology now exist to do so.
35. RS can not kick in the door to Meredith's room, but another male was able to in a few kicks at most.
36. There were no signs below the broken window on the ground of an intruder and NO glass outside the shutter line or on the ground below.
37. There was glass on top of the clothes strewn on Filomena's floor.
38. Nothing was stolen (as RS told police) from Filomena's room or elsewhere.
39. It is not anyone elses dna mixed with Meredith's blood except AK...and no other dna evidence of an intruder.
40. The rock was big (IIRC like 8 or 9lbs) too hard to throw from below IMO and not likely to be thrown from the parking area due to being noticed.
41. None of the three ever produced the clothing they were wearing that night either throwing them away or not really remembering what they were wearing... if anything.
42. All of AK's statements (and of course RS even though he wouldn't testify)
both written and verbal are quite suspicious to me and in my opinion show many traits of lying/deflection/deception. IMO any proper analysis of her writing and statements would note the deceptions.
43. Over 25 judges at different levels found the evidence against all three to be enough to hold/charge/prosecute them for being involved in Meredith's murder. Yet their convictions are dismissed because of two pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated or misread. Even though RS's dna was verified of being on the bra-clasp and Meredith's on his kitchen knife along with AK's. Really?


I could go some more but I am tired... and is their really a need?

Could there be that many (and more) inconsistancies/lies/circumstancial evidence/deflection or just plain bad luck against the accused but they are somehow not involved? Not IMO.
 
Interesting you think that, here is a post from Yummi at PMF describing what he thinks about the Prosecution's Appeal:

"Independently from whatever the Supreme Court will decide, the fact that we have now a 100+ pages appeal document against the acquittal signed by Giovanni Galati is a great achievement, the meaning of which will last forever.
As well we have a formal appeal by the Kercher family through Maresca. So we have a clear statement of a definate expressed position of the family and friends of Meredith Kerchers, of twenty-eight judges of various instances, of the Procura of Perugia, and of an officer Prosecution General of the Supreme Court especially threshing Zanetti: Galati is the highest rank magistrate actually in Umbria. We also have the people of Perugia (recall the chanting Vergogna to Hellmann's court). These documents by the Prosecution General and the Kercher will last in history and all those dealing with the knowledge of this case wont be able to hide them or ignore them."

Since I have seen you in other threads observing odd behavior/circumstancial evidence/false statements/bad luck of the accused/good luck of the accused/past behavior/outright lies/etc showing guilt... it makes me wonder why in this case you seem not to even consider the possibility the AK and RS are guilty of at least being accomplices in some way to the murder of Meredith.

I will make a list, but I don't plan to argue my points because I understand that probably each and every one can be poked at in some way or another... no matter how far-fetched or illogical. And this has been done over and over
and I'm not really trying to change anyone's mind. Just basically curious.

1. Both AK and RS claim to have been at RS's on the computer and doing various other things. There is no evidence of this.
2. Both AK and RS turn their phones off the night of the murder. Not usual.
3. AK deletes the message from Patrick, but claims later she didn't know how to delete sent ones.
4. AK states to investigators that they ate dinner late (maybe even 11:30pm) and they had a water leak afterwards. RS's father's blew that alibi when he stated he was told during his call much before 10pm that they had eaten earlier.
5. RS states that AK went back to the cottage that morning with a empty plastic bag and to get the mop. They were supposed to take a trip to Gubio that day... these plans did not happen.
6. AK states she goes back to the cottage to get a mop to clean the water spill from the night before that had to have happened before 9:30pm.
7. AK works a shower story into her return visit to the cottage.
8. AK's story is that she found the front door of the cottage open/unlocked, and noticed blood drops in the sink and bloodstains on the bathmat. Decides to take a shower, jumps in the shower before noticing that there are no towels in the bathroom, and gets out on the bloodstained bathmat. She then uses the bloodstained bathmat to 'shuffle' into the hallway and to her room for towels (also stating her foot may have sliped off the mat a couple of times). During this time her only working light (the lamp found in Meredith's locked room), is not in her room as usual and she does not need a light in the bathroom either because the lightswitch has undisturbed blood smears on it. She then changes clothes and goes to blow dry her hair in the other bathroom (which has poo in the toilet that she doesn't flush). So she thinks nobody is home, the front door is open, there are bloodstains in the sink and on the bathmat, bloodstains on the bathroom lightswitch, her lamp is not in her room, there is unflushed poo in the toilet, AND Meredith's door is shut/locked.
9. There is a bloody bare footprint on the bathmat attributed to RS, not RG although there are plenty of RG's shoeprints in Meredith's room and straight out of the cottage. Were is the rest of the bloody print? Cleaning done?
10. There are bare footprints in the hallway outside of Meredith's room attributed to AK and RS... none for RG. Would this explain the bathmat shuffle story and some mop toting?
11. AK claims to not remember her call to her mother which was the middle of the night for her mother.
12. AK claims to have been present at the cottage after letting Patrick in, and putting her fingers in her ears after hearing Meredith's screaming. Now she is scared of Patrick and he is a bad man... but she had supposidly let him into the cottage and he 'wanted' Meredith.
12. RG happens to have a fancy for AK... not Meredith, as he has let the downstairs boys know this fact.
13. AK actually knew RG having smoked mj around him with the boys, around the basketball court, and at the bars/clubs. If RG is thought to be a small time drug dealer anyway- IMO since AK and RS did do them... they likely knew about one another.
14. A guy is charged for cocaine dealings around Perugia after his phone is contacted BOTH shortly before and shortly after the murder (wasn't she arrested on the night of the 5th) by AK. He first comes under suspicion after investigators find this on her phone.
15. Although worried about the circumstances at the cottage that morning, she returns to RS's apt and they eat brunch and wipe up the spill from the night before before returning to check things out.
16. Upon their return to the cottage they begin to worry over the 'break-in' and thrown clothes on the floor (in Filomena's room) in addition to the blood stains, poo, and Meredith's locked door. In a 'panic' AK goes outside the cottage and tries to look in Meredith's window and RS kicks Meredith's door in an attempt to bust in.
17. AK does not attempt to try and call Meredith's phones from outside the door to see if Meredith is behind the locked door unable to answer.
18. Later before calling Filomena about her worries from the cottage, she had called Meredith's phones and only let them ring a couple of times... IMO this is when the phones were heard in the lady's garden on the outskirts of the town.
19. Filomena told AK to call the police immediately in which AK said she would... she did not.
20. RS states to police in his call that nothing had been stolen. How does he know?
21. When RG is arrested, RS states to his dad in a taped call that he is worried what strange things the arrested Ivorian will say. Why would he be worried... he should be thrilled???
21. In his prison diary writing about Meredith's dna being found on one of his kitchen knives... RS writes a LIE about pricking Meredith while cooking with her even though she had never been to his apt. According to him he said sorry and Meredith forgave him.
22. Patrick in interviews states that AK was not a good worker because she flirted too much. He states that she was going to be demoted to just handing out flyers for the bar and that he told her Meredith was going to come by on certain nights to mix drinks. He states she WAS NOT HAPPY about this revelation.
23. Patrick and AK actually talked to each other after the murder and before she accused him of the crime when she was questioned. If she had been so scared of HIM... why would she have met up with him and talked? Why did she later accuse him of all people? Did she think the bar was closed that night because she had been texted not to come in (which she deleted)?
24. Why if AK was hit or coerced by someone from LE to accuse Patrick can she not identify who from the officers that were there? Why ruin Patrick's life over something he had nothing to do with?
25. RG identified AK and RS as the others having committed the crime after he had already been convicted.
26. Witnesses state having seen both AK and RS near the cottage the night of the murder.
27. Store owner states having seen AK at his shop early the morning after the murder.
28. AK writes a story of a drug/alchohol fueled party and a rape/murder while under arrest.
29. Five instances including one in Filomena's room (where the staging took place) of AK's dna mixed with Meredith's blood. One in the bathroom likely being a AKblood/Meredith's blood mix.
30. Along with the bathmat boogie story AK mentions bleeding ears from piercings when under questioning by investigators to try to explain the possibily of the above and the barefoot prints that may be found in the hallway.
31. RS's sister is relieved of her job with the police for trying to influence proceedings against her bother.
32. AK was even convicted of calunna at appeal... so the forced confession/accusation theory was even denied there.
33. The appeal verdict mainly dismissed the charges due to 2 pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated and without HEARING or SEEING other pieces of evidence. The appeal judge repeatedly makes general statements in his motivation about the young/naive accused and their suffering families.
34. The experts called by the appeal judge did not actually do any new test on the knife as was asked of them... even though the technology now exist to do so.
35. RS can not kick in the door to Meredith's room, but another male was able to in a few kicks at most.
36. There were no signs below the broken window on the ground of an intruder and NO glass outside the shutter line or on the ground below.
37. There was glass on top of the clothes strewn on Filomena's floor.
38. Nothing was stolen (as RS told police) from Filomena's room or elsewhere.
39. It is not anyone elses dna mixed with Meredith's blood except AK...and no other dna evidence of an intruder.
40. The rock was big (IIRC like 8 or 9lbs) too hard to throw from below IMO and not likely to be thrown from the parking area due to being noticed.
41. None of the three ever produced the clothing they were wearing that night either throwing them away or not really remembering what they were wearing... if anything.
42. All of AK's statements (and of course RS even though he wouldn't testify)
both written and verbal are quite suspicious to me and in my opinion show many traits of lying/deflection/deception. IMO any proper analysis of her writing and statements would note the deceptions.
43. Over 25 judges at different levels found the evidence against all three to be enough to hold/charge/prosecute them for being involved in Meredith's murder. Yet their convictions are dismissed because of two pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated or misread. Even though RS's dna was verified of being on the bra-clasp and Meredith's on his kitchen knife along with AK's. Really?


I could go some more but I am tired... and is their really a need?

Could there be that many (and more) inconsistancies/lies/circumstancial evidence/deflection or just plain bad luck against the accused but they are somehow not involved? Not IMO.

What an extremely sad list.

What I find to be more troubling in thread after thread is that even after something has been proven to not be factual, inaccurate etc., individuals continue to believe in the falacies.

As I read the message earlier from the Cox family I really had to sit back and ask myself how I could ever take the high path as they have done.

I don't know if I always can but I made a promise to myself that I sure as heck am going to try.
 
Sadly, it would appear that the prosecution will attempt to resurrect much of the old 2007-08 scenario.
It is dismaying and baffling to see the same, old, thead-bare and worn out evidence and argument dragged out again from the moth-balls.
I am baffled as to how this 111 pp report can not be viewed as simply redundant and tiresome.
 
Interesting you think that, here is a post from Yummi at PMF describing what he thinks about the Prosecution's Appeal:

"Independently from whatever the Supreme Court will decide, the fact that we have now a 100+ pages appeal document against the acquittal signed by Giovanni Galati is a great achievement, the meaning of which will last forever.
As well we have a formal appeal by the Kercher family through Maresca. So we have a clear statement of a definate expressed position of the family and friends of Meredith Kerchers, of twenty-eight judges of various instances, of the Procura of Perugia, and of an officer Prosecution General of the Supreme Court especially threshing Zanetti: Galati is the highest rank magistrate actually in Umbria. We also have the people of Perugia (recall the chanting Vergogna to Hellmann's court). These documents by the Prosecution General and the Kercher will last in history and all those dealing with the knowledge of this case wont be able to hide them or ignore them."

Since I have seen you in other threads observing odd behavior/circumstancial evidence/false statements/bad luck of the accused/good luck of the accused/past behavior/outright lies/etc showing guilt... it makes me wonder why in this case you seem not to even consider the possibility the AK and RS are guilty of at least being accomplices in some way to the murder of Meredith.

I will make a list, but I don't plan to argue my points because I understand that probably each and every one can be poked at in some way or another... no matter how far-fetched or illogical. And this has been done over and over
and I'm not really trying to change anyone's mind. Just basically curious.

1. Both AK and RS claim to have been at RS's on the computer and doing various other things. There is no evidence of this.
2. Both AK and RS turn their phones off the night of the murder. Not usual.
3. AK deletes the message from Patrick, but claims later she didn't know how to delete sent ones.
4. AK states to investigators that they ate dinner late (maybe even 11:30pm) and they had a water leak afterwards. RS's father's blew that alibi when he stated he was told during his call much before 10pm that they had eaten earlier.
5. RS states that AK went back to the cottage that morning with a empty plastic bag and to get the mop. They were supposed to take a trip to Gubio that day... these plans did not happen.
6. AK states she goes back to the cottage to get a mop to clean the water spill from the night before that had to have happened before 9:30pm.
7. AK works a shower story into her return visit to the cottage.
8. AK's story is that she found the front door of the cottage open/unlocked, and noticed blood drops in the sink and bloodstains on the bathmat. Decides to take a shower, jumps in the shower before noticing that there are no towels in the bathroom, and gets out on the bloodstained bathmat. She then uses the bloodstained bathmat to 'shuffle' into the hallway and to her room for towels (also stating her foot may have sliped off the mat a couple of times). During this time her only working light (the lamp found in Meredith's locked room), is not in her room as usual and she does not need a light in the bathroom either because the lightswitch has undisturbed blood smears on it. She then changes clothes and goes to blow dry her hair in the other bathroom (which has poo in the toilet that she doesn't flush). So she thinks nobody is home, the front door is open, there are bloodstains in the sink and on the bathmat, bloodstains on the bathroom lightswitch, her lamp is not in her room, there is unflushed poo in the toilet, AND Meredith's door is shut/locked.
9. There is a bloody bare footprint on the bathmat attributed to RS, not RG although there are plenty of RG's shoeprints in Meredith's room and straight out of the cottage. Were is the rest of the bloody print? Cleaning done?
10. There are bare footprints in the hallway outside of Meredith's room attributed to AK and RS... none for RG. Would this explain the bathmat shuffle story and some mop toting?
11. AK claims to not remember her call to her mother which was the middle of the night for her mother.
12. AK claims to have been present at the cottage after letting Patrick in, and putting her fingers in her ears after hearing Meredith's screaming. Now she is scared of Patrick and he is a bad man... but she had supposidly let him into the cottage and he 'wanted' Meredith.
12. RG happens to have a fancy for AK... not Meredith, as he has let the downstairs boys know this fact.
13. AK actually knew RG having smoked mj around him with the boys, around the basketball court, and at the bars/clubs. If RG is thought to be a small time drug dealer anyway- IMO since AK and RS did do them... they likely knew about one another.
14. A guy is charged for cocaine dealings around Perugia after his phone is contacted BOTH shortly before and shortly after the murder (wasn't she arrested on the night of the 5th) by AK. He first comes under suspicion after investigators find this on her phone.
15. Although worried about the circumstances at the cottage that morning, she returns to RS's apt and they eat brunch and wipe up the spill from the night before before returning to check things out.
16. Upon their return to the cottage they begin to worry over the 'break-in' and thrown clothes on the floor (in Filomena's room) in addition to the blood stains, poo, and Meredith's locked door. In a 'panic' AK goes outside the cottage and tries to look in Meredith's window and RS kicks Meredith's door in an attempt to bust in.
17. AK does not attempt to try and call Meredith's phones from outside the door to see if Meredith is behind the locked door unable to answer.
18. Later before calling Filomena about her worries from the cottage, she had called Meredith's phones and only let them ring a couple of times... IMO this is when the phones were heard in the lady's garden on the outskirts of the town.
19. Filomena told AK to call the police immediately in which AK said she would... she did not.
20. RS states to police in his call that nothing had been stolen. How does he know?
21. When RG is arrested, RS states to his dad in a taped call that he is worried what strange things the arrested Ivorian will say. Why would he be worried... he should be thrilled???
21. In his prison diary writing about Meredith's dna being found on one of his kitchen knives... RS writes a LIE about pricking Meredith while cooking with her even though she had never been to his apt. According to him he said sorry and Meredith forgave him.
22. Patrick in interviews states that AK was not a good worker because she flirted too much. He states that she was going to be demoted to just handing out flyers for the bar and that he told her Meredith was going to come by on certain nights to mix drinks. He states she WAS NOT HAPPY about this revelation.
23. Patrick and AK actually talked to each other after the murder and before she accused him of the crime when she was questioned. If she had been so scared of HIM... why would she have met up with him and talked? Why did she later accuse him of all people? Did she think the bar was closed that night because she had been texted not to come in (which she deleted)?
24. Why if AK was hit or coerced by someone from LE to accuse Patrick can she not identify who from the officers that were there? Why ruin Patrick's life over something he had nothing to do with?
25. RG identified AK and RS as the others having committed the crime after he had already been convicted.
26. Witnesses state having seen both AK and RS near the cottage the night of the murder.
27. Store owner states having seen AK at his shop early the morning after the murder.
28. AK writes a story of a drug/alchohol fueled party and a rape/murder while under arrest.
29. Five instances including one in Filomena's room (where the staging took place) of AK's dna mixed with Meredith's blood. One in the bathroom likely being a AKblood/Meredith's blood mix.
30. Along with the bathmat boogie story AK mentions bleeding ears from piercings when under questioning by investigators to try to explain the possibily of the above and the barefoot prints that may be found in the hallway.
31. RS's sister is relieved of her job with the police for trying to influence proceedings against her bother.
32. AK was even convicted of calunna at appeal... so the forced confession/accusation theory was even denied there.
33. The appeal verdict mainly dismissed the charges due to 2 pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated and without HEARING or SEEING other pieces of evidence. The appeal judge repeatedly makes general statements in his motivation about the young/naive accused and their suffering families.
34. The experts called by the appeal judge did not actually do any new test on the knife as was asked of them... even though the technology now exist to do so.
35. RS can not kick in the door to Meredith's room, but another male was able to in a few kicks at most.
36. There were no signs below the broken window on the ground of an intruder and NO glass outside the shutter line or on the ground below.
37. There was glass on top of the clothes strewn on Filomena's floor.
38. Nothing was stolen (as RS told police) from Filomena's room or elsewhere.
39. It is not anyone elses dna mixed with Meredith's blood except AK...and no other dna evidence of an intruder.
40. The rock was big (IIRC like 8 or 9lbs) too hard to throw from below IMO and not likely to be thrown from the parking area due to being noticed.
41. None of the three ever produced the clothing they were wearing that night either throwing them away or not really remembering what they were wearing... if anything.
42. All of AK's statements (and of course RS even though he wouldn't testify)
both written and verbal are quite suspicious to me and in my opinion show many traits of lying/deflection/deception. IMO any proper analysis of her writing and statements would note the deceptions.
43. Over 25 judges at different levels found the evidence against all three to be enough to hold/charge/prosecute them for being involved in Meredith's murder. Yet their convictions are dismissed because of two pieces of evidence 'possibly' being contaminated or misread. Even though RS's dna was verified of being on the bra-clasp and Meredith's on his kitchen knife along with AK's. Really?


I could go some more but I am tired... and is their really a need?

Could there be that many (and more) inconsistancies/lies/circumstancial evidence/deflection or just plain bad luck against the accused but they are somehow not involved? Not IMO.

I don't know who Yummi is, I don't read the PMF website, and I don't intend to argue the case over again either.
 
Didn't ask that. Do you at least see the same coincidental evidence that is used so effectively in other cases for guilt? For that was the point... including the part stating I didn't think the post would do any good as far as changing minds. Maybe even the part about hiding and ignoring these little coincidences... no matter how many.
 
Didn't ask that. Do you at least see the same coincidental evidence that is used so effectively in other cases for guilt? For that was the point... including the part stating I didn't think the post would do any good as far as changing minds. Maybe even the part about hiding and ignoring these little coincidences... no matter how many.

I, personally, don't. Maybe you could name some cases where the evidence is comparable and led to a conviction. Most of this is someone not remembering something correctly, which I can't think of other cases where this would be lynchpin evidence.
 
My post was to ohio btw, I certainly know you will not consider the large amount of circumstancial evidence against AK/RS and the many explanations/excuses used to refute it. I noticed her on the guilt-side in other cases with alot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the accused. Specifically the Michelle Young murder here in NC.
 
My post was to ohio btw, I certainly know you will not consider the large amount of circumstancial evidence against AK/RS and the many explanations/excuses used to refute it. I noticed her on the guilt-side in other cases with alot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the accused. Specifically the Michelle Young murder here in NC.

Thanks for the reference. I'll look into that case to see how it compares to the list you've made.

ETA: BTW, is this is the case where the guy had googled the location where the body was found before she disappeared? If that's true, it's pretty hard evidence. Will look into it, though, thanks to this case I no longer take all the evidence at face value.

ETA2: Okay, that must have been a different case. Having looked a bit into this young case, it seems like there's a lot of debate over whether this man killed his wife, the first jury having deadlocked. I've noticed one similarity and one difference in my skimming: The big difference is the prosecution has a pretty strong motive (he was having an affair and his wife was pregnant), and the similarity is that this person's guilt is not at all certain. Hopefully this man is not convicted on weak evidence.
 
The first one you mentioned was the B.Cooper murder conviction.
 
Amanda Knox's Family Slams 'Harassment' By Italian Prosecutor

The family of Amanda Knox said today that efforts by Italian prosecutors to put her back in prison is "an example of the harassment" by prosecutors who are intent on prolonging "this terrible, painful incident."
Knox's family put out the statement after prosecutor Giovanni Galati filed a 112-page appeal seeking to throw out a court ruling that found Knox innocent of her roommate's murder and set her free after four years in an Italian prison.

Galati said he is "very convinced" that Knox and her former Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito killed Meredith Kercher Nov. 1, 2007. Kercher, Knox's British roommate, was found dead in her room with her throat slashed.
http://news.yahoo.com/amanda-knoxs-...NjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdlBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3
 
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