that is absolutely not true.
you start spitting, they will throw you into solitary confinement....probably put a mask over your face - looks like pantyhose sort of...a spit mask...
jails do not typically have a pharmacy on site. they are not doctors. nor is a jail a medical facility. they cant just hand out meds not knowing the inmates medical history. he was not in jail long enough to even get a full medical history completed much less a psyc profile done.
Thank you!
Goodness, I can't imagine all the lawsuits there would be for a pattern of drugging people just for spitting! :blushing:
Those of us familiar with the process at county jails understand that the coward was highly unlikely to have been medicated at the hearing, 72 hours after he was arrested.
Here's the process:
1. Arrest.
2. Booking.
3. Meet with a nurse.
4. If you state you take medications and have someone who can bring the prescriptions to the jail and have them reviewed by the nurse, you MAY be able to get them without having to be examined by a physician. This is more common in cases like diabetes (but not always). It is far less common in cases of mental disorders.
5. If you exhibit bizarre behaviors, you may be isolated or restrained and in some case, placed on suicide watch which just means your clothing is taken from you and you are observed more often than others who have been arrested. This includes if you are screaming for help, eating your own waste or begging for medication. You will likely not be given any:
May Molina was a prominent civil rights activist who was known for protesting police actions. In May 2004, Molina was arrested on a drug tip. When Molina was arrested, she told the police officers that she took thyroid and diabetes medications, but the police told her she could not bring her medications to the jail as they "were not permitted in lockup."
About 16 hours into her detention, Molina met with her long-time attorney. According to Molina's attorney, she could barely stand, walk, or speak. Molina's attorney told the jail guards to get her to a hospital because she was in very poor health, and Molina repeatedly asked for her medications from her cell. However, none of the guards on duty responded, and a few hours later, Molina was found dead in her cell.
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http://www.lexisnexis.com/community...n-of-medicine-to-a-person-in-jail-constitute-
Hoff has exhibited erratic behavior since he was 5, and he was treated with anti-psychotic medications, kept at group homes and received other services for the mentally ill through adolescence.
He recently earned a 60-day jail stay for theft, and sheriff's officials denied his parent's attempts to get him his meds while behind bars. His parents now fear he has sunk into full-blown psychosis.
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/02/matt_hoff_missing_oc_jail.php
Gregg County authorities on Thursday confirmed medications were denied an inmate who died because they were on the jails list of non-approved drugs.
Amy Lynn Cowling, 33, of Gilmer was found unresponsive in a separation cell just before midnight Tuesday. She was declared dead on arrival about 12:30 a.m. Wednesday at Good Shepherd Medical Center.
Cowlings family and friends repeatedly contacted the sheriffs office to inform them about the inmates medical situation and that it was imperative that she be administered her physician-prescribed medications, but the familys requests were dismissed each time, Tefteller said in a written statement.
Davis said there was a reason for the refusal.
All three medications that Cowling had been taking for the past 10 years were not approved by the jail, he said.
Davis said Cowling was taking methadone, a synthetic opiate; Seroquel, used to treat the symptoms of schizophrenia; and Xanax, used to treat anxiety disorders and panic attacks.
In lieu of the medications she was prescribed, a doctors assessment prompted approved medications to be administered to Cowling.
http://www.news-journal.com/news/local/article_b742dff5-f175-5ceb-b769-e493ddfd9c1e.html
Timothy Smith, who according to his family is bipolar and diabetic, was reportedly unable to get his medication while serving a three-day sentence for a traffic violation at the Twin Towers Correctional Facility.
They had information that he had some sort of physical and we believe also some sort of mental condition, said attorney Jamon Hicks. At a minimum, they knew he was on medication.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011...ed-bipolar-diabetic-inmate-after-meds-denied/
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - A Fruitport man served about six weeks in the Ottawa County jail in 2007. For seven days, he claims he was denied medication for his bipolar disorder and diabetes.
Randy Modd and his attorneys filed a lawsuit last week in Grand Rapids federal court, stating because he was denied "critical medication," he needed to be hospitalized for his bipolar condition.
"It was a terrible being put in isolation -- maximum security," Modd said. "It was horrifying, just terrifying and nobody cared. I could have died in there and nobody would have cared less."
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Former-inmate-sues-Ottawa-County-jail
UPDATED: CLEVELAND -- R&B singer Sean Levert entered the Cuyahoga County Jail on March 24 clutching the prescribed medication he took regularly for anxiety.
Jail staff took the bottle of Xanax away from him and failed to give him a single pill during the six days he was there, investigators said. Even when he began suffering horrifying delusions, he wasn't given his medication and never saw a doctor.
Instead, on March 30, jailers strapped Levert into a restraint chair, still fighting the monstrous visions in his head caused by withdrawal from the medication. Minutes later, the 39-year-old son of O'Jays star Eddie Levert stopped breathing. His heart then stopped and doctors couldn't save him.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/11/post_15.html
OCALA - Thoughts of suicide began to form in James Johnson's mind. He felt nauseous. He couldn't sleep. He was confused.
"Please give me my Paxil," he begged the jail's corrections officers.
Johnson, 50, had been booked into the Marion County Jail in March on a charge of driving with a suspended driver's license.
What he didn't understand then - or now - is why the jail's medical staff refused to give him the legally prescribed medications he had taken for years for his clinical depression, including the anti-depressant Paxil, an anti-psychotic called Seroquel and the sedative Trazodone.
"The psych nurse came to me and said, 'You're not going to get this medication,'" Johnson said in a recent interview. "I said I'd get violently ill."
And so he did.
He began throwing up.
He grew increasingly agitated.
Nurses wrote in his medical records, day after day, that he was asking for his medication; that Johnson was "doubled over in anguish evidenced by facial expressions"; that he was making suicidal statements.
He was taken in and out of a suicide prevention cell.
At one point, he sat on the floor and began to pray with his cellmates.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
As Johnson's pleas for help went unanswered, he became more desperate.
By the seventh day, he was wailing and flinging himself headlong into the concrete walls hoping to either lose consciousness or alert the guards to the depth of his agony.
"He started going crazy in front of my eyes," said Kyle Morrill, one of his cellmates. "I woke up in the middle of the night and he was running from one side of the cell and banging his head on the other side."
Johnson's frightened cellmates begged officers to do something - anything - to relieve his suffering.
But nothing changed.
So when officers opened Johnson's cell on the 10th day after his arrest, he bolted up a nearby stairway and leapt off the balcony, crashing onto the hard floor 14 feet below and shattering his right leg.
That jump earned him a trip to the hospital, where a psychiatrist put him back on an anti-depressant and painkillers and sent him back to jail.
A SICK HEALTH SYSTEM?
Johnson's harrowing story isn't unique to the Marion County Jail, or for that matter, to many jails across the country.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20071216/NEWS/212160331?p=2&tc=pg
6. Whether you came in with a diagnosis and/or prescription or not, after several days, maybe weeks, you may be able to see a jailhouse doctor. At that time, you may be evaluated and diagnosed and prescribed medications. They often are not the same as those prescribed on the outside.
7. If you begin to display obvious medical problems like convulsions, unconsciousness, you will likely be taken to a medical wing or to a hospital. But not until then - unless you are a famous and rich celebrity like Paris Hilton.
The guy who killed all those people in AZ and who shot Gabrielle Giffords, was smearing feces all over the place, sobbing uncontrollably, went without sleep for 50 hours and had to be forcibly removed from the courtroom for his outbursts:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ng-Jared-Loughners-fate-is-still-unclear.html
Despite this, he was not medicated for almost seven months after his arrest, until June 21, 2011:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/us/24loughner.html
Here's the thing. Jails usually don't have the resources to provide the medical care inmates may need. They don't have the staff. They are underfunded. Also, inmates in jails scream yell and make demands incessantly. They often fake illnesses or otherwise act bizarrely. Jailers are used to this and thus often do not pay attention to inmates with issues. Further, many medications an inmate may be already prescribed, are not on "approved" lists. Finally, jails are reluctant to prescribe anything to anyone, especially on an emergency basis. They don't know if the inmate is allergic, or already on something that could cause complications. The potential for lawsuits is incredible.
If the coward had already been given medications while in jail, he would not be on suicide watch. He would be in the hospital wing or in a regular hospital, heavily guarded. That's because only a severe and obvious medical emergency would cause the jail staff to have him be given medications to control "behavior". Otherwise, the staff is used to screaming, poo throwing, writhing on the floor, banging heads on the wall, spitting, mania, etc. None of that is considered a medical emergency to jail staffers. Sorry, they don't have the time or resources to deem such behavior a medical issue.
This murderer was not on any medication at his court appearance, IMO and in my experience. No way, no how.
