Verdict is in! GUILTY of MURDER ONE - Hung Jury On Penalty Phase

[lil_buddy]

The course cloth of bitter disappointment.

chafing sux.

 

[mejane]

Perryville is being sued because of the violence by gang members. These girls are ruthless. They dont care about rules. Jodi would be a target. She wont be conning or manipulating them. She will wish she was dead. Prison officials already said she will be in max security.live the same life as death row inmates. Either way, her day will come.

This is what makes me giggle inside. I think about that interview where she smugly says " was I lying about wanting to DIE or wanting to LIVE. Then I tell myself she really thinks Death is better. Then I smile knowing she will live a long ,miserable scared very day of her life, hellish life.

 

[Yellow]

People are commenting how Jodi will not get a fair trial bc it will be impossible to find someone who does not know about it. That is not the standard, they can know, they can even be exposed to all the media coverage, they just have to say that the media coverage will not influence opinion. So there is a certain amount of trust involved. There are a lot of obsessed trial watchers so some of them could be stealth jurors

And there are alot of people who do not follow this stuff. My friend is an ER doctor with no TV who rarely knows anything about these type things. I always joke she would be a perfect juror, but thing is she always gets out of jury duty bc of her job! So I guess it is a double edge sword- people that are really into their jobs probably will not know much while it is hard to get them to serve this long bc of their jobs.

Her interviews will come in this time so that will crucify her w her poor attitude. But any advantage she got from them seeing her every day for 5 months will not be there this time (at least as much, I imagine she will testify but it will be shorter(

 

[EllteeEffgee]

She gets no cable or internet --just a TV, when she gets to cockroach heaven.

The prison official I heard said she got basic cable. Infuriated me.

 

[gitana1]

Oh I get it now...I just watched the verdict again...she was actually crying from relief or so it seems.

Hmm. I didn't get that sense at all. She looked astonished and upset to me, Her attorney looked pleased though.

 

[MidwestMama]

BBM

I've been wondering what that means. :waitasec:

Steely,
I am behind so it is likely someone has already answered you but
GMAFB = give me a f&*%g break

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I know this is not going to be popular, but it's my opinion and I'm ok with it.
I keep hearing about the four holdouts. In actuality, there were no holdouts. the jurors were given a task to do and 3 possible choices to mark on the card. They all put in their time, came to their conclusions, 8 for death, 4 for a life sentence. Juror instructions does not say you have to give into the majority, in fact, it says quite the opposite, not to be bullied into changing your mind if you truly believe you are making the right descision. All 12 made their "right decision" as based on how they viewd the mitigating factors in comparison to the aggravating facors of the case.

They are told they can each accept or deny any of the testimony they have heard. It is something they and only they can choose to believe or disbelieve. There civic duty was to use their life experiences, their common sense, and their sense of what was true and what was not. They are told not to let emotions play a part in their decisions. Their job was to vote Life or Death. All 12 did so, there were NO holdouts, they all voted, they all debated and in the end, they didn't all agree. Simple as that!

I respect the jury for taking on this tough task, and just because they didn't all see things as I did, and all 12 vote for death, I do not hold that against them. To call the four holdouts imho is just wrong. It could just as easily be said that there were 8 holdouts who wouldn't vote for life in prison. CMja is where she needs to be right now, and her next move is to Perryville whether she likes it or not. And we can thank all 12 jurors for that.

As I said in a previous post, I will bet dimes to donuts that the Alexander family is not bashing the jurors tonight. Disappointed sure, but I can bet they aren't calling them idiots and some of the other lame terms I've seen used here tonight. They are too classy and have too much respect for our legal system to bash 12 people for doing their civic duty for 5 months.
Aim your hatred if necessary where it belongs, on CMja, not these 12, or 4 of the 12 that did their civic job as they saw fit.

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

Jodi donated hair? Did she go down to the hospital and get tested to see if she can donate a kidney to her father? Thats what a reporter should have asked her.

But, but, but ... But that would leave a SCAR! And it would HURT! She doesn't like sharp things (but sometimes makes exceptions). OTOH, it COULD buy her a little time out of the hoosegow for a short time.

 

[pferrin]

Thanks for giving me an opening to ask this:

Today I met someone who really, totally believes in the Law of Attraction. He's very, very nice, educated and rational. The subject came up because i've been pretty down on myself lately and he's a personal fitness trainer I've employed. He was enthusiastic without being pushy or fanatical. He asked me to watch the movie, "The Secret" on You Tube before we meet again. I told him I'd heard about "The Laws of Attraction" during the Jodi Arias trial and of course he knew nothing of it. Said he doesn't watch the news, etc. because it doesn't help him attain his goals in life. In some ways, he reminded me of Travis, actually.

Have any of you investigated this school of thought, "The Laws of Attraction?" Do any of you believe? Any anecdotal results to share? Conflicts with other religious belief systems?

I'm fascinated with the concept of Thinking Myself Happy. That would equate success for me. Very interested with anyone's experience. TIA

I don't know allot about the law of attraction but I can tell you that after this trial that I can see that ja used the law of attraction as a manipulation tool. If you are feeling down on youself..beware of manipulators.

I started my road to better self esteem with learning to meditate. I can suggest Jon Cabot Zinn's book Whereever you go there you are. Find a great therapist. Nothing wrong with a cross trainer...great body does not equal great mental health.
Just keep you eyes wide open. Wishing you much success.

 

[elementary]

I think it was her holding up that da*n survivor t-shirt that sealed the deal and had them thinking she was a certified nut case!

I think that there were 4 jurors who just couldn't do it. I think it's as simple as that.

 

[TartLemon]

My lights are back Woohoo

 

[Hatfield]

I am disappointed that the jurors couldn't agree, but would be more disappointed had the 8 been swayed from the DP just to finish the job. The four holdouts - crap on you for saying you could when you couldn't.

So, cheers for the 8! I don't think we will see another jury. It just doesn't seem logical if its true that if JM took the DP off the table, the Judge would then decide. Why go through another trial and all that expense for another maybe? I'm not hoping for that, as I voted to hang her. Just thinking from a logical standpoint. If ckja has to agree to a plea, she won't ImO unless its LWP. She's a gambler, and a murderer.

I totally agree. With the 8-4 vote, I just think the DA will elect not to try her again and let the judge decide on which type of LIFE.
My understanding is it is not that they are taking the DP off the table, but are electing not to try her again, so the judge would get it in that case, with the only option being either LWOP or LWP.

So, it kind of is like taking the DP off the table in a way, but indirectly.

I dont want it either, but with the huge circus this has been, I just think the DA wants to end this too.

Also, CKJA wont get a vote or a plea with this. It is solely up to the judge what she gets. The sad part is the family really doesnt get a vote either. If the DA does not want to proceed with 2nd try, he can elect not too without considering anything else.

I really think the family probably wants it over too at this point. They look exhausted and for their emotional health, I bet they really wont mind if the DA ends this without a 2nd try. I honestly think it is in their best interest to have this end at this point. I am betting they would agree at this point.

 

[Fuskier]

Published on May 23, 2013
A brief video and reality check of the journey Jodi Arias is facing as the jury decides her fate ~ Whether she gets a death sentence or life without parole she is doomed for the draconic prison called Perryville where she will likely die as she becomes one of the walking dead in the Arizona desert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YJTBLd-72fg#!

Thank you for posting this link. It should be recommended viewing for all as it provides a reality check about life at Perryville Prison. During Arias's presentation to the Jury, I was concerned that whoever 'coached' Arias to say those things has misrepresented the reality of prison life to the Jury.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Off topic // I had an opportunity to use the phrase that Travis coined tonight on FB and gave credit where credit was due. It wasn't much, but what a smile it put on my face to help Travis alexander touch another group of people in my life. / end off topic

 

[Night-owl]

Quick question if anyone knows, will the judge require that the defense team stay through the retrial of the penalty phase? Or is Stabby Einstein going to try to find new lawyers to defend her.

Not that I think any sane attorney in the state would be looking to pick up that job after seeing little Miss Crazy-maker in action.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Off topic // I had an opportunity to use the phrase that Travis coined tonight on FB and gave credit where credit was due. It wasn't much, but what a smile it put on my face to help Travis alexander touch another group of people in my life. / end off topic

"The difference between a stumbling block and a stepping stone is the character of the individual walking the path." Travis Alexander.

That should have been Juan's final words in closing ..

 

[Gypsy Road]

The prison official I heard said she got basic cable. Infuriated me.

Sheriff Joe says at his jail he had to provide cable because of some federal law (which is totally ridiculous)...but at his jail - they only broadcast The Disney Channel and The Weather Channel I think.

 

[DC18]

i know this is not going to be popular, but it's my opinion and i'm ok with it.
I keep hearing about the four holdouts. In actuality, there were no holdouts. The jurors were given a task to do and 3 possible choices to mark on the card. They all put in their time, came to their conclusions, 8 for death, 4 for a life sentence. Juror instructions does not say you have to give into the majority, in fact, it says quite the opposite, not to be bullied into changing your mind if you truly believe you are making the right descision. All 12 made their "right decision" as based on how they viewd the mitigating factors in comparison to the aggravating facors of the case.

They are told they can each accept or deny any of the testimony they have heard. It is something they and only they can choose to believe or disbelieve. There civic duty was to use their life experiences, their common sense, and their sense of what was true and what was not. They are told not to let emotions play a part in their decisions. Their job was to vote life or death. All 12 did so, there were no holdouts, they all voted, they all debated and in the end, they didn't all agree. Simple as that!

I respect the jury for taking on this tough task, and just because they didn't all see things as i did, and all 12 vote for death, i do not hold that against them. To call the four holdouts imho is just wrong. It could just as easily be said that there were 8 holdouts who wouldn't vote for life in prison. Cmja is where she needs to be right now, and her next move is to perryville whether she likes it or not. And we can thank all 12 jurors for that.

As i said in a previous post, i will bet dimes to donuts that the alexander family is not bashing the jurors tonight. Disappointed sure, but i can bet they aren't calling them idiots and some of the other lame terms i've seen used here tonight. They are too classy and have too much respect for our legal system to bash 12 people for doing their civic duty for 5 months.
Aim your hatred if necessary where it belongs, on cmja, not these 12, or 4 of the 12 that did their civic job as they saw fit.

love this post

 

[TartLemon]

Perryville is being sued because of the violence by gang members. These girls are ruthless. They dont care about rules. Jodi would be a target. She wont be conning or manipulating them. She will wish she was dead. Prison officials already said she will be in max security.live the same life as death row inmates. Either way, her day will come.

Estrella where Jodi is right now is referred to as Camp Snoopy by those Perryville 'girls'.

If Jodi gets DP, she will get all kinds of attention besides from the appeal process but also from anti DP groups. She'll milk that for all the attention she can.

In general population, Jodi will get attention, but not at all the wine and cheese book clubs she's conjured in JodiWorld.

 

[AZlawyer]

When the civil suit was first discussed, one of the lawyers (AZlawyer, iirc) explained that the statute of limitations on the civil suit (2 yrs) has long since run. I asked a trial lawyer I know, too, and he agreed. I also did a little research myself and discovered the some states have passed legislation tolling the SOL in homicide cases, but I don't think AZ is among them.

Karmady, maybe someone's replied to this already, but if not -- at some point I checked the statutes to see if there was some kind of exception that would apply, and lo and behold there was. The SOL (that's the abbreviation I use ) is 1 year after the verdict.