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So sad...was just watching the news and they're talking about an unsolved murder here in Des Moines from a little over 2 years ago. Ashley Okland...a real estate agent who was shot during an open house. I knew her fiance at the time. Heartbreaking.

Do they have any suspects? :seeya:
 
Do they have any suspects? :seeya:

Not to my knowledge...it's considered a cold case as of right now. Seems ridiculous in such a small city like Des Moines! I just don't understand.
 
:countsheep::eek:fftobed:

Hope you all have a good night! Hope we have a verdict tomorrow in the Sneiderman case.
 
Not to my knowledge...it's considered a cold case as of right now. Seems ridiculous in such a small city like Des Moines! I just don't understand.

How are you feeling M?
 
How are you feeling M?

Hanging in there, still coughing like a maniac! Slept until almost 1:00 this afternoon so I'm having trouble getting to sleep tonight lol. Ready to get back to work tomorrow. Thanks for asking! :)
 
I found it interesting that JVM is promoting her book big time on CMJA. Shanna hogan's book comes out 9/2/13. Shanna has been researching her book for 5 years. I think I will read Shanna's book and be done. Hope it is very hot where CMJA is and is going.
 
No- he doesn't get embarrassed so easily. I don't think he realized that men have some problems when they get older in that department.
(but there's always- what is that stuff that men use now to enhance their drive??? I can't think of it right now.)

Oh, oh- Viagra. :floorlaugh:

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Yes, Cialis too, wish they'd quit sending me spam I'm a widow! What the hey do I need that for!!!:floorlaugh:
 
I found it interesting that JVM is promoting her book big time on CMJA. Shanna hogan's book comes out 9/2/13. Shanna has been researching her book for 5 years. I think I will read Shanna's book and be done. Hope it is very hot where CMJA is and is going.

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Thanks Zuri! I'd like to read Shanna Hogans book too. I wonder if anyone has any medical info on jodie. I'm anxious for the trial, hope she fries! (or LWOP)..:seeya:
 
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Yes, Cialis too, wish they'd quit sending me spam I'm a widow! What the hey do I need that for!!!:floorlaugh:

I get ya, Nore! :floorlaugh: It's like, are you kidding? Is this a joke? All that business is so ridiculous to me anyway, I mean, Really? Seriously, if these guys can't, you know, just can't.... well, what more can I say, you know what I mean.... :floorlaugh:
 
I get ya, Nore! :floorlaugh: It's like, are you kidding? Is this a joke? All that business is so ridiculous to me anyway, I mean, Really? Seriously, if these guys can't, you know, just can't.... well, what more can I say, you know what I mean.... :floorlaugh:

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neesaki, yes! give it up already. A miracle anything is left!:floorlaugh:
 
I found it interesting that JVM is promoting her book big time on CMJA. Shanna hogan's book comes out 9/2/13. Shanna has been researching her book for 5 years. I think I will read Shanna's book and be done. Hope it is very hot where CMJA is and is going.

Not interested in JVM's book. I can only imagine her book was written with the CAPLOCK button on because she yells so much on her show so I feel like she would write like that too.
 
I'm going to bed. Frazier and Niles are calling me in a couple of minutes. :floorlaugh:
Goodnight, sis.
See you tomorrow. :seeya:

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I watch them too! every night from 3am to 5am. I have insomnia. The time Niles set his pants on fire I LOL so hard I wet my pants, had to get up..:floorlaugh: he is hysterical.:scared: :seeya:
 
Not interested in JVM's book. I can only imagine her book was written with the CAPLOCK button on because she yells so much on her show so I feel like she would write like that too.

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I was thinking the same thing. Shanna has researched this much longer and really got the back story. That is what I would like to read.

Maybe CMJA will add the book to her book club of the month. :floorlaugh:
 
I'm here, been lurking most of the night. I'm coughing so hard my head is pounding. I'm so freaking miserable. I have to go to work tomorrow, I stayed home Friday so there's no way around it. Ugh.

Catching up on the last few days and probably going to bed shortly.

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Get some cough meds? I hope you feel better soon, have copd so I know it really hurts your head. Take care.:seeya:
 
Gorgeous dogs!!!!!!!! Love their look and eye. Tulessa, you are so lucky!

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Tulessa they are beautiful! the baby is adorable. I hope you had them spayed, neutered. That saves their lives.. my Cocker is sleeping next to me right now. God knew I needed someone of my very own to love and "mother" so he sent my Buffy..:seeya:
 
Not interested in JVM's book. I can only imagine her book was written with the CAPLOCK button on because she yells so much on her show so I feel like she would write like that too.

hahahah omg i am laughing so hard at this, you are so right!!!!!
 
goodmorning everyone! i hope you all had a nice weekend. i'm cleaning the house today, throwing something in the crock pot (not sure what but i got a crock pot pizza recipe that uses bisquick and will be easy for my 2 year old to eat so i'm gonna try that) and wait for the sneiderman verdict!
 
I found it interesting that JVM is promoting her book big time on CMJA. Shanna hogan's book comes out 9/2/13. Shanna has been researching her book for 5 years. I think I will read Shanna's book and be done. Hope it is very hot where CMJA is and is going.

IMO, its too early for a book to come out which will shed new light on the relationship, the murder and the trial. There just has not been enough time to research the evidence and interview the right people. JVM appears to be relying on HLN, the trial and interviews with guests on HLN shows. From what I can gather, Hogan's interviews were limited to Travis's family and friends.

There is so much evidence that was collected that was not presented in the trial. The trial itself did raise a lot of questions, with testimony that did not jive. One example would be the nude pictures time stamped June 4th. A lot of people question that and CMJA did protest the date in her interview with Flores. In court, two camera memory cards were shown, but no testimony was offered with respect to what was found on one of those cards. This is the kind of information I want to learn about from a book.

Much of what CMJA and ALV said can probably be refuted by using evidence in a timeline. Juan Martinez did something like this when he used journal entries and texts to dispute CMJA's version of the alleged pedo incident on January 21 and the strangulation event on January 22. Both the times and content of these communications are not consistent with the alleged events.

So for me, I will wait and give it time for someone to properly research before publishing a book on this sad, sad case.
 
As far as the photos on the bed JA's hair is brown in those pictures so they had to have been taken on June 4th. Except for that day, the whole time Jodi knew Travis her hair was bleached blond.

Also I'm still not convinced there were two memory cards because there is only one in evidence which was presented in court. One investigator testified the card was in the washer when it was retrieved. The second investigator to testify said the card was in the camera when he received it. So it's unclear. Did the first investigator put the card in the camera before handing it over to the second investigator?
 
As far as the photos on the bed JA's hair is brown in those pictures so they had to have been taken on June 4th. Except for that day, the whole time Jodi knew Travis her hair was bleached blond.

Also I'm still not convinced there were two memory cards because there is only one in evidence which was presented in court. One investigator testified the card was in the washer when it was retrieved. The second investigator to testify said the card was in the camera when he received it. So it's unclear. Did the first investigator put the card in the camera before handing it over to the second investigator?

Lammy. I'll correct my error. The memory card that was shown in court did not belong to Travis's camera. It is the wrong size, color and shape. IIRC, it was Melendez who testified that the images show in court were obtained from the memory card extracted from the camera. So the question becomes why was the blue memory card shown as an exhibit in court and what was on it?
 
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