Suspect #1: Dellen Millard *Charged* 1st Deg Murder 15 May 2013 #2

[robynhood]

Agree, way too much evidence IMHO. And he would not go into detail as to why they are not seeking bail. :lol: He doesn't want to tell the public the Crown has a *****load of direct evidence. Why do I think if Napoleon were alive, he would file a lawsuit against DP for dragging his name through the mud or impersonation; maybe identity theft?! :floorlaugh:

His lawyer, Deepak Paradkar would not go into detail about the decision against seeking bail, but said trying to achieve release is a “very, very onerous task” in first-degree murder cases.

“There are a lot of tactical reasons why one might not go for bail, because at a bail hearing, [the Crown] might get to present a case which might affect a lot of things,” he said,

Mr. Millard, 28, and his co-accused, 26-year-old Mark Smich, are slated to appear in court on Thursday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...lice-continue-to-search-farm/article14239837/

...Thanks that tells a HUGE story...your link...IMO...now go look up PeiLcan LIGHT....on google....another large reason Police have a search warrant FOR AS LONG AS THEY NEED...." certain evidence does not go away".....:facepalm:...robynhood....I feel sick....JmHO

 

[Archangel7]

Agree, way too much evidence IMHO. And he would not go into detail as to why they are not seeking bail. :lol: He doesn't want to tell the public the Crown has a *****load of direct evidence. Why do I think if Napoleon were alive, he would file a lawsuit against DP for dragging his name through the mud or impersonation; maybe identity theft?! :floorlaugh:

His lawyer, Deepak Paradkar would not go into detail about the decision against seeking bail, but said trying to achieve release is a “very, very onerous task” in first-degree murder cases.

“There are a lot of tactical reasons why one might not go for bail, because at a bail hearing, [the Crown] might get to present a case which might affect a lot of things,” he said,

Mr. Millard, 28, and his co-accused, 26-year-old Mark Smich, are slated to appear in court on Thursday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...lice-continue-to-search-farm/article14239837/

bbm

Gee.....reckon what's going to happen in a Courtroom DP?

 

[swedie]

Thanks for the highlighted info MsS. Interesting tidbit IMO. Wonder what the urgency to purchase the land was all about that he called right then and there at the farmland? Couldn't he have entered the number into his phone and called from home that day or the next? Maybe the woman he introduced to Nicholson was LB. Did he lead LB on about their relationship making her believe she was marriage material? Did she break up with SL because she believe DM was serious about her? Was DM the one who encouraged her to get into the escort business? DM probably introduce LB to his dad as his fiancee also and WM was happy thinking his son was finally going to grow up and settle down making future plans. WM probably funded the purchase of the farmland and this is why he was interested in seeing it and was part of those meeting at the Waterloo airport cafe. WM paid for it but it was put into DM's name. Meanwhile DM was intelligent enough to lead them all astray. Something tells me WM was pretty tight with money including when it came to DM. That is why DM put that little diddy in his father's obit; kind of like taking a final dig at his dad. DM resented this about his father being tight with him. Goes to reason why he would want to see his father dead IMHO.

Nicholson recalls that events moved quickly in the spring of 2011. A few months earlier, Dellen Millard had called Nicholson from 2548 Roseville Rd., dialing the number on the For Sale sign and introducing himself.

Millard explained his interest in the farm, a 46-hectare property with an old barn, but no residence. Nicholson met him to walk the property. Millard eventually explained that he planned to build a house there for himself and his fiancée. “He was discussing, ‘where do you think is a good spot?’ ”

They met several times at the farm, joined sometimes by Dellen’s father Wayne Millard, president of family business Millardair. The father has since passed away.

Nicholson learned that the family was relocating its aviation business from Toronto to the regional airport.

“I often met them at the airport, because they were negotiating at the same time with the management (at the airport) to get a piece of land to build a hangar on,” he recalls.

 

[swedie]

...Thanks that tells a HUGE story...your link...IMO...now go look up PeiLcan LIGHT....on google....another large reason Police have a search warrant FOR AS LONG AS THEY NEED...." certain evidence does not go away".....:facepalm:...robynhood....I feel sick....JmHO

RH are you able to put a link here regarding what you're referring to? Too many hits come up and I would like to be certain we are on the same page. TIA. :seeya:

 

[swedie]

bbm

Gee.....reckon what's going to happen in a Courtroom DP?

Maybe we should give DP a call and fill him in that direct evidence will be discussed by the Crown tomorrow, plus more coming in. I really feel bad for DP. He's got himself painted into a corner. Money or no money/walk or don't walk. I was going to include future business beside money but for now I'll sit on that. :giggle: :runaway:

 

[Blomquist]

Did he lead LB on about their relationship making her believe she was marriage material? Did she break up with SL because she believe DM was serious about her? Was DM the one who encouraged her to get into the escort business? DM probably introduce LB to his dad as his fiancee also and WM was happy thinking his son was finally going to grow up and settle down making future plans. WM probably funded the purchase of the farmland and this is why he was interested in seeing it and was part of those meeting at the Waterloo airport cafe. WM paid for it but it was put into DM's name. Meanwhile DM was intelligent enough to lead them all astray. Something tells me WM was pretty tight with money including when it came to DM. That is why DM put that little diddy in his father's obit; kind of like taking a final dig at his dad. DM resented this about his father being tight with him. Goes to reason why he would want to see his father dead IMHO.

Nicholson recalls that events moved quickly in the spring of 2011. A few months earlier, Dellen Millard had called Nicholson from 2548 Roseville Rd., dialing the number on the For Sale sign and introducing himself.

Millard explained his interest in the farm, a 46-hectare property with an old barn, but no residence. Nicholson met him to walk the property. Millard eventually explained that he planned to build a house there for himself and his fiancée. “He was discussing, ‘where do you think is a good spot?’ ”

They met several times at the farm, joined sometimes by Dellen’s father Wayne Millard, president of family business Millardair. The father has since passed away.

Nicholson learned that the family was relocating its aviation business from Toronto to the regional airport.

“I often met them at the airport, because they were negotiating at the same time with the management (at the airport) to get a piece of land to build a hangar on,” he recalls.

What makes you think WM was tight with money as far as DM was concerned...which snippet of information spurred that deduction if you don't mind me asking..?

I dont share your views at all about any of the above..... It just seems like total fantasy to me....... but I guess thats what happens when two people have totally different ways of thinking.... hopefully the truth will out and put everyone's type of thinking into perspective.


I find the bolded sentence quite insensitive, I guess we all have our little quirks but deriding comments about diddy's in orbits is rather base imo especially in light of the fact that the man owning the orbit is now dead


Also it seems quite sensible and feasible to want to build a home closer to ones workplace. As it turned out the contracts did not come and I am guessing thats why homebuilding was put on hold. JMO

 

[Arnie M]

as far as the BARN .... it is a piece of junk that would likely have been torn down (not much value to DM) .... certainly no place to store cars or parts (rodents) (corrosion from old manure) .... the main foundation is field stone which means built 1800's

as far as being a MILLARD EMPLOYEE ... (purchasing the incinerator) that would be a correct term for DM or WM or any other staff.

A "limited corporation" (Company Ltd) is a registered entity (corporation) existing on paper ... the "corporation" itself cannot pick up a phone or order supplies .... only an employee or authorized person can

I have owned a corporation .... I was the president (title) and majority shareholder (owner) but I was also an employee (the corporation I owned , employed me)

I paid myself wages as an employee (and paid personal income tax like everyone else) (my corporation issued a T-4 slip to myself at tax time) .

It is completely proper to say "an employee" of M.Air ordered the incinerator .... but I doubt it was the janitor. Most likely DM (or WM)

thank you
AM

 

[Arnie M]

as far as PURCHASING FARM LAND ..... one of the worst places to have cash is in a bank (low interest) ... one of the best places to park money today is into farmland that produces food.

Land always holds (real) value ..... food is always needed (essential) , money is just some paper printed in a basement in Ottawa.

So the farm is a good investment whether a house is built or not. And if a house is built the place will still produce yearly revenue (a neighbor farmer will rent the cropland)

As far as calling a realtor on the number on the sign .... that is the whole idea .... very common ..... businessmen think on their feet and act quickly ..... probably DM called the realtor from the roadside .... asked the price .... ($890k) .... DM would say .... "I can count that high .... when can we tour the place ?? The realtor would do a bit of checking and determine he had a serious buyer with money and arrange a meeting and negotiate a sale.

If a hippy dreamer was riding a bicycle on Roseville Road and called the realtor .... the realtor would tell the dreamer to keep riding to the next campsite and pitch a tent.

 

[MsSherlock]

I'm always surprised in cases like these when I find myself experiencing a sense of empathy for the accused. Not to be confused with the overwhelming grief, sorrow, sympathy and empathy for the victims-but always that feeling that if only things had been different somehow, somewhere for the accused, there would never have been a victim. JMHO.

"The accused killer, who celebrated his birthday in jail on Aug. 30, said that "getting a visit is so rare" and called this visit from a reporter "precious."

Still, he insisted he could not talk. He has been incarcerated since his arrest May 10."
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4075078-exclusive-jail-visits-with-bosma-s-accused-killers/

IMO, it would be very difficult to visit a close friend or loved one in jail, but IMO, I hope I would consider it common decency, after all, they are considered innocent until proven otherwise. I would have expected DM's relatives, Mother included and friends who are not on the "no contact" list to take a couple hours out of a day here and there to visit DM. Guess people have other places to go and people to see. Out of sight, out of mind? Too busy counting the money on the outside? I'm sure DM is wondering exactly how wealthy he really was-certainly not in the quality of relationships he developed because right now, it appears he has more supporters here on WS than in his physical life. JMHO

 

[Alethea Dice]

Thanks for the highlighted info MsS. Interesting tidbit IMO. Wonder what the urgency to purchase the land was all about that he called right then and there at the farmland? Couldn't he have entered the number into his phone and called from home that day or the next? Maybe the woman he introduced to Nicholson was LB. Did he lead LB on about their relationship making her believe she was marriage material? Did she break up with SL because she believe DM was serious about her? Was DM the one who encouraged her to get into the escort business? DM probably introduce LB to his dad as his fiancee also and WM was happy thinking his son was finally going to grow up and settle down making future plans. WM probably funded the purchase of the farmland and this is why he was interested in seeing it and was part of those meeting at the Waterloo airport cafe. WM paid for it but it was put into DM's name. Meanwhile DM was intelligent enough to lead them all astray. Something tells me WM was pretty tight with money including when it came to DM. That is why DM put that little diddy in his father's obit; kind of like taking a final dig at his dad. DM resented this about his father being tight with him. Goes to reason why he would want to see his father dead IMHO.

Nicholson recalls that events moved quickly in the spring of 2011. A few months earlier, Dellen Millard had called Nicholson from 2548 Roseville Rd., dialing the number on the For Sale sign and introducing himself.

Millard explained his interest in the farm, a 46-hectare property with an old barn, but no residence. Nicholson met him to walk the property. Millard eventually explained that he planned to build a house there for himself and his fiancée. “He was discussing, ‘where do you think is a good spot?’ ”

They met several times at the farm, joined sometimes by Dellen’s father Wayne Millard, president of family business Millardair. The father has since passed away.

Nicholson learned that the family was relocating its aviation business from Toronto to the regional airport.

“I often met them at the airport, because they were negotiating at the same time with the management (at the airport) to get a piece of land to build a hangar on,” he recalls.

That's quite the theory. So you think that DM was already dating LB a year before she disappeared, while she was still dating SL?

 

[robynhood]

Can someone give me a hint how to put a link from google here as Swede asked me to show what I saw when I googled Pelican Light and the specs Matou had written?...not so great at transferring URL from google on websleuther;s...thanks Robynhood....?????

 

[Eldee]

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4075078-exclusive-jail-visits-with-bosma-s-accused-killers/

Here is today's story.

 

[Archangel7]

It's nice the reporter got to do a road trip....

I guess under the current Defense interpretation, DM hasn't been questioned by the Press either, since he said nothing.

I doubt the accused will say anything until JD when a Judge reveals the way the "Court" sees this case and which side is "really" ahead where it counts.
Then several things are likely.

1. Crown says no deals
2. Defense says no deals
3. Judge says to dismiss/withdraw, plea it, or full speed ahead to trial.

After Judicial Pretrial each side should know who's holding the better hand.
Sure would be a good time to have a fireside chat............

 

[Eldee]

In the beginning, I always had a thought that maybe, just maybe DM was innocent and being used as some sort of a pawn or whatever.
Reading the story from the link above, I now believe he is guilty. ( don't think I would be picked at this point for jury duty )
I truly believe that if I were charged with first degree murder, of actually taking someone's life, and I didn't do it, any chance that I had to sit with a reporter, I would scream and yell my innocence, regardless of what my lawyer said. I think any reasonable innocent person that is charged with such a horrendous crime would scream innocence as loudly as they could.
I think the fact that he said nothing, speaks volumes on his guilt. Just my opinion. I know I may come across as wet behind the ears, I know I don't fully understand our legal system, however, here is his chance to say, I did not do this, yet he stayed silent.
Surely, he must know the search is on for LB and he has been implicated. Here again, was his opportunity to say I have nothing to do with her being missing. I do not know where my friend is. Yet, he says nothing.
Just my own opinion
Just my own opinion.
I know anything he says can be used against him, I understand that, but how can saying, I did not do this, you have the wrong guy, be used against him.
Yet, he says nothing.

 

[Variant]

I'm always surprised in cases like these when I find myself experiencing a sense of empathy for the accused. Not to be confused with the overwhelming grief, sorrow, sympathy and empathy for the victims-but always that feeling that if only things had been different somehow, somewhere for the accused, there would never have been a victim. JMHO.

"The accused killer, who celebrated his birthday in jail on Aug. 30, said that "getting a visit is so rare" and called this visit from a reporter "precious."

Still, he insisted he could not talk. He has been incarcerated since his arrest May 10."
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4075078-exclusive-jail-visits-with-bosma-s-accused-killers/

IMO, it would be very difficult to visit a close friend or loved one in jail, but IMO, I hope I would consider it common decency, after all, they are considered innocent until proven otherwise. I would have expected DM's relatives, Mother included and friends who are not on the "no contact" list to take a couple hours out of a day here and there to visit DM. Guess people have other places to go and people to see. Out of sight, out of mind? Too busy counting the money on the outside? I'm sure DM is wondering exactly how wealthy he really was-certainly not in the quality of relationships he developed because right now, it appears he has more supporters here on WS than in his physical life. JMHO

It sounds like he is practicing his courtroom act, to some effect.

DM's "friends" and hangers-on are probably hoping to move on with their lives, which they have learned may not happen if they continue to associate with DM. If only things had been different for the victims, they wouldn't have been victims.

 

[Archangel7]

So what if a word, a sentence, a paragraph or a page of what he said WAS used against him, that opens the legal doors wide open for him to allow his whole complete story of innocence/non involvement to be heard by the court on his behalf. It would be a benefit to an innocent/uninvolved person eh? But apparently it is one of those situations, where "no, you tell me first what you know, THEN I'll decide what to tell you" strategies.

On being innocent and incarcerated......
Good undercover narcotics officers land in jail frequently due to raids, drug sweeps, traffic stops, etc. when they are in the thick of things.

How many sit in jail until trial knowing they are innocent? How about ZERO? They simply let their contact in their Agency know the circumstances, where they are and it's resolved without anyone knowing the real reason for their release, thus protecting their cover. The point being, if you're innocent say so.

DM is apparently involved enough to need to see all of the evidence that the Crown has "found" against him so he and DP can plea, fold, or fight it in court.

I find it hilarious that after almost all discovery evidence is likely complete and a JP is around the corner that TPS stirs the pot and turns up the heat on DM/DP with more possibility of "everything."

In the beginning, I always had a thought that maybe, just maybe DM was innocent and being used as some sort of a pawn or whatever.
Reading the story from the link above, I now believe he is guilty. ( don't think I would be picked at this point for jury duty )
I truly believe that if I were charged with first degree murder, of actually taking someone's life, and I didn't do it, any chance that I had to sit with a reporter, I would scream and yell my innocence, regardless of what my lawyer said. I think any reasonable innocent person that is charged with such a horrendous crime would scream innocence as loudly as they could.
I think the fact that he said nothing, speaks volumes on his guilt. Just my opinion. I know I may come across as wet behind the ears, I know I don't fully understand our legal system, however, here is his chance to say, I did not do this, yet he stayed silent.
Surely, he must know the search is on for LB and he has been implicated. Here again, was his opportunity to say I have nothing to do with her being missing. I do not know where my friend is. Yet, he says nothing.
Just my own opinion
Just my own opinion.
I know anything he says can be used against him, I understand that, but how can saying, I did not do this, you have the wrong guy, be used against him.
Yet, he says nothing.

 

[redheart]

Adam Carter from CBC tweets:

A judicial pre trial for Dellen Millard has been set for Oct. 22

and

Millard said nothing but his name and stood in a prison issue orange jumpsuit with his hands folded facing the camera

https://twitter.com/AdamCarterCBC

 

[Coldpizza]

I'm at the #Hamont courthouse where Dellen Millard and Mark Smich are appearing to set a date for a judicial pretrial

Sharlene Bosma is also in the courtroom.

A judicial pre trial for Dellen Millard has been set for Oct. 22.

Millard said nothing but his name and stood in a prison issue orange jumpsuit with his hands folded facing the camera

https://twitter.com/AdamCarterCBC

 

[JPC]

Kate Carnegie (@katecarnegie) tweeted at 2:27 PM on Thu, Sep 12, 2013:
Pre-trial court date set for Oct 22 for Dellen Millard. Details on @CHCHNews Now at 2:30
(https://twitter.com/katecarnegie/status/378223381218205696)
Is this true? Have MSM reported a downgrade in charges from 1st to 2nd?

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[JPC]

Kate Carnegie (@katecarnegie) tweeted at 2:27 PM on Thu, Sep 12, 2013:
Pre-trial court date set for Oct 22 for Dellen Millard. Details on @CHCHNews Now at 2:30
(https://twitter.com/katecarnegie/status/378223381218205696)
Is this true? Have MSM reported a downgrade in charges from 1st to 2nd?

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