Defence friendly assessors?, well i never, honestly what an amazing ability to be able to tell 2 people are defence friendly when they've barely said a word between them for the whole trial, some people are beyond talented it seems.
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Previous overreactions to noises didn't include OP killing anyone, or anyone reporting a woman screaming (just before a woman was shot to death). Personally, I think his previous reactions to noises will go against him, not for him. He told Sam Taylor when he heard a noise, and he didn't go charging off with a gun and shoot into a closed door, or wherever he perceived the noise to be coming from. It was just on this single occasion that he didn't react as he normally did. The question is why.
Think I may have misunderstood every weekday??? I always think of that as Mon to Friday.
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Previous overreactions to noises didn't include OP killing anyone, or anyone reporting a woman screaming (just before a woman was shot to death). Personally, I think his previous reactions to noises will go against him, not for him. He told Sam Taylor when he heard a noise, and he didn't go charging off with a gun and shoot into a closed door, or wherever he perceived the noise to be coming from. It was just on this single occasion that he didn't react as he normally did. The question is why.
Carmelita, rs&bbm for relevance and convenience. I'm working on a ploddingly slow mobile connection.
It seems from the history that has been presented, that OP has serious impulse control issues. I also see rage and disrespect for authority. I could see him having difficulty supressing those qualities under intense scrutiny and evaluation.
Hello everyone.
My first ever post although I have been lurking since the bail hearing....and it's a question for those more enlightened than me.
Regarding the psychological assessment, did the Defence argue so vociferously against it because they know something detrimental to their case?
I assume this because otherwise, if OP is found to have a mental health issue which suggests diminished responsibility then presumably the trial would be halted and in theory he could walk free. This surely would suit them?!
Thank you for your time :blushing:
You could well be right. I think he will be controlled and measured when he gets angry.
I think that evaluators are likely to see histrionic behavior, crying, retching, confusion, disassociation from his actions and so on, but again that is just my opinion. On the opposite side of the spectrum Oscar may even get close to a catatonic state during the evaluations when he is overcome with the fact that he killed Reeva and he is going to have to face that fact head on rather than compartmentalize it. ( I realize a cationic state is associated with severe organic mental disorders and I am not suggesting that Oscar bears any of these illnesses) which is why I said near catatonic.
I do have a question does anyone here believe that Oscar does not have a maladaptive personality?
It appears that there are a myriad of personality disorders that Oscar can be tucked into, whether or not he is, is up to his evaluators. What significance the evaluators suggest that his maladaptive personality/illness/disorder played in Reevas death is what the case hinges on, at the moment.
The whole mental health field is an art not a science and it is fluid, constantly being evaluated and revaluated. Here is a rather interesting article about changes to the DSM V because of flaws or limitations in the previous editions.
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Well , there are 2 groups ( from what i've seen so far , one more numerous than the other!) and it more or less goes as follows:
- The DT argued so badly against the evaluation as it could , potentially , open very dangerous avenues to OP's actual state of mind. This goes along with a theory that his DT would have had him assessed way before the trial started and could , potentially, know what it means to have OP assessed and what the following report for the court would contain.
- The DT introduced DR.V as witness late into the trial due to realizing that their case wasn't strong enough for acquittal . Hoping Dr.V testimony would be used for mitigation/sentencing . In short , they were foreseeing a conviction and hoped the GAD diagnosis would be used to make the stay in jail a bit shorter. In fighting the State's request , they were probably trying to disguise the fact that they introduced this witness so late into the trial which could be seen by the court as a desperate measure.
I'm not saying any of this is correct , or that any of it is what i personally think...i think only the evaluation report will give answers to your questions...and mine for that matter.
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Couldn't help but notice those 4 women in green in the front row. They looked ready to make Oscar soup.
Sorry, if this has been asked and answered, I missed it. Who are those women wearing identical green outfits? Is that a uniform?
You could well be right. I think he will be controlled and measured when he gets angry.
I think that evaluators are likely to see histrionic behavior, crying, retching, confusion, disassociation from his actions and so on, but again that is just my opinion. On the opposite side of the spectrum Oscar may even get close to a catatonic state during the evaluations when he is overcome with the fact that he killed Reeva and he is going to have to face that fact head on rather than compartmentalize it. ( I realize a cationic state is associated with severe organic mental disorders and I am not suggesting that Oscar bears any of these illnesses) which is why I said near catatonic.
I do have a question does anyone here believe that Oscar does not have a maladaptive personality?
It appears that there are a myriad of personality disorders that Oscar can be tucked into, whether or not he is, is up to his evaluators. What significance the evaluators suggest that his maladaptive personality/illness/disorder played in Reevas death is what the case hinges on, at the moment.
The whole mental health field is an art not a science and it is fluid, constantly being evaluated and revaluated. Here is a rather interesting article about changes to the DSM V because of flaws or limitations in the previous editions.
http://www.apadivisions.org/divisio...ters/gavel/2013/07/personality-disorders.aspx
There was a huge fight before the DSM V was published for various reasons of disagreement among mental health professionals, as with any art, people are still not satisfied with the DSM V. I would say the author of the article would have been one of the dissenters as to the DSM V being an improvement over the DSM IV.
A PD in and of itself is not a defense by the way, our US prisons are full of diagnosed people.
Hi. They're women's Defence league advocates for abuse etc against women. They're there to support June Steenkamp (Reeva's mum).
Thank you. Appreciate the fast response.
Not in the least! They say Oscar Pistorius is the most evil man to walk the planet since Vlad the Impaler and then they all laugh at him. Just kidding Gryffindor - it is quite balanced and both those who think OP is a cold blooded killer and those with an opposing view should be fine with it.Hiya. Is it a balanced view worth watching?