Well, my original theory was they were going to see if Mr. D's. beheading had the impact they were hoping for. And if not, there was always Mrs.D's disappearance to "negotiate with." And I'm not sure a boat was used. I somehow visualize a car. A boat would have been unwieldy and too out in the open.That's a good question. I think it could be for the same reason they took Russel's head. I have been following this case from day one in my private facebook group. Cool to see people are still chatting about it even though the case is cold...amazingly. The head may have been taken as proof of a hit or to cover up DNA exposure. Why take his head if the point was to hide the bodies in the lake to make it look like they just disappeared. This seems like a hired hit to me and the head was proof of death, but yes your question is a good one. Then why not just leave her body there since the head is all that was needed for the proof. Perhaps her body too had forensic exposure to the perp. Didn't her autopsy say blunt force trauma?
Well, I think they can. IF there were problems in the restaurant business or IF there were problems in the international realAlso it's been well over 2 years and not a suspect and the family hasn't gone to the media for help, the police never give updates anymore, and since this is a very clever murder wouldn't a tv show want to do a show on this? I wonder if the police or family have been asked about a possible show on this murder. Odd since a show would reach more people and might provide some information ( like a friend was visiting that area on that weekend) .. personally I think the police know who did this but can't prove it without a doubt
The family has nothing to do with the Dermond murders, imo, and if they did we are not allowed to sleuth or accuse them..'The writing is on the wall and the devil is in the details'... I've sleuthed many cases on websleuths over the years, but must admit that none with a motive more obvious as in the Dermond murders, imo. The Irene and Russel Dermond murders were to send a message; a message of revenge, retribution aimed at Sheriff Sills, the Putnam County Justice System, and the Putnam County Community.. jmo
The family has nothing to do with the Dermond murders, imo, and if they did we are not allowed to sleuth or accuse them..'The writing is on the wall and the devil is in the details'... I've sleuthed many cases on websleuths over the years, but must admit that none with a motive more obvious as in the Dermond murders, imo. The Irene and Russel Dermond murders were to send a message; a message of revenge, retribution aimed at Sheriff Sills, the Putnam County Justice System, and the Putnam County Community.. jmo
At no time have I believed, thought or entertained the idea that the Dermonds' murders were planned or executed by their children. The money they would have received from the parent's demise would have been pocket change.The family has nothing to do with the Dermond murders, imo, and if they did we are not allowed to sleuth or accuse them..'The writing is on the wall and the devil is in the details'... I've sleuthed many cases on websleuths over the years, but must admit that none with a publicly made idle threat and a motive more obvious than in the Dermond murders, imo. The Irene and Russel Dermond murders were to send a message; a message of revenge, retribution aimed at Sheriff Sills, the Putnam County Justice System, and the Putnam County Community.. jmo
OMG! Why torture an 83 yo woman, or anyone for that matter? Why? What purpose does this serve?
This is just plain evil hate done by evil animals who serve no purpose on this earth but to lie, cheat, steal, hate and more than likely kill for no reason. I am fuming mad right now I could spit nails.
What has happened to this generation that has turned so many into no good lazy animals who have no respect for their parents, elders, peers, LE and think they are entitled to anything and everything without working one day in their sorry pathetic lives?! JMO
Sorry for my o/t rant.
Prayers for Dorothy Dow and her family. I pray she can somehow get through this and heal. More than likely she has her faith on her side along with goodness, love and JUSTICE.
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Found this article which is much of the same except there are lots of pictures of the property http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/2015/10/23/georgia-mysteries-dermond-murder/74450000/. I find it hard to believe this was a robbery or extortion gone bad and here's why. 1 A robbery gone bad is impossible since the house was spotless . If they were looking for something I highly doubt they would be neat about it and I doubt while looking for whatever it was they might have been seeking that they stumbled upon something else expensive and didn't take it. 2 Extortion. Highly doubt this is the case either. If you're going to do this and lets say the dermonds refused their demands why would you kill them? They're in their late 80s and not worth killing. Did 1 of the dermonds put up a struggle? Doubt it since as the police reported the house was spotless so spotless you could eat off the floor. Autopsy report according to police indicated no bodily injury before death. Lets sy for the sake of arguing the killers picked them because they thought they had something valuable in the house since it was a nice house. They didn't just happen to pick that house out the 1st time going by there and decide on the spur of the moment to rob them or kidnap them for ransom money. Why would they behead an 88 year old man? It wasn't to hide the fact that they shot him or to hide the gun or weapon evidence. Lets say they shot Mr Dermond in the head. All they had to do after was destroy the gun by melting it down or do the same to any weapon they might have used. It's a lot easier than beheading someone and a lot faster plus i'm sure if they have done this before they wouldn't use a weapon that could be traced back to them. I think this was personal and they knew each other well.
Why take Mrs Dermond to the lake? The only reason I can think of is yes they wanted to have the police preoccupied with a missing person than looking for them and this would give them time to get back to their lives. Remember Mrs Dermond was weighed down with cinder blocks ? There was none missing from the house which tell me they were planning to do this all along. They didn't just decide this after they entered the house since it wouldn't be smart to send someone out to lets say home depot to get the blocks. They might be seen leaving or coming back. Some might think maybe they were prepared but honestly nobody prepares the way these 2 murders happened. Behead the guy in the house and then take his 87 year old wife a few miles away by boat and tie block to her and toss her in the river?
Bottom line this was torture and it was something personal. Someone needed money ( my bet either a family member or a church member) yes I said it I think the preacher needed the money. Religion is a business and beheading someone is a religious act. Also if it was someone who was close to the Dermonds they couldn't just disappear especially the preacher. People would notice a family member gone and especially a preacher .
Just things I think about maybe i'm way off but I don't think so.
Yep southernmimi, 'Times they are a changin'... The above Colquit County mass murder was the worst in over a decade in GA, according to the GBI..
GBI: Victims all knew suspect in murder case
http://www.walb.com/story/32024407/gbi-victims-all-knew-suspect-in-murder-case
Bumping this to link another decapitation case that is in the Crimes in the News forum.
Probably not a connection, but a missing head in each case does create a sort of connection. What are they doing with the heads?
http://www.fugitive.com/2016/04/16/...ound-with-his-head-cut-off-in-north-carolina/
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ee-found-decapitated-Merry-Hill-10-April-2016
As a side note, an arrest was made in the Jubal Alexander case in TX.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...itated-Angleton-27-April-2016-*ARREST*/page13
But that's just it. I don't see the anger. What good does it do to take his head and his wife if he's not alive to fully realize the loss?
Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part but I think both were
dead before they knew what was happening. What happened after was only made to shock those that were still living.
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The thing is... why take Shirley out on the boat? She could have been murdered there and her body left with Russell. Did the killer want people to believe Shirley was still alive or had something to do with Russell's murder? Did the killers want to show who died first, Russell so that would change any inheritance? It is strange that she was taken out by boat, probably never wanting that body to be found. If the killers want to shock the living with Russell's body what was the motive behind taking Shirley?
After Mr Russel Dermond was brutally murdered and beheaded, Mrs Shirley Dermond was likely taken as a hostage in case of routine boat inspection by DNR or a 911 call made by a neighbor, imo. When the possible suspect was witnessed in the Dermond's yard, it would be reasonable to conclude that he/she was aware that they had been witnessed. When they safely reached their destination five miles up the lake without law enforcement involvement. She would have been no further use to them and that's likely why she was disposed of in the lake near the boat launch. jmo