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Question to anyone at random. When was the gender reveal party cancelled? What date?
Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #56
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Question to anyone at random. When was the gender reveal party cancelled? What date?
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Do you have a link to the PDF file? tia
Well, holy moly stone the crows.
I did not expect such a COMPREHENSIVE document “dump”, so SOON.
I’m reading through, slowly, I took a sleep break around 4am.
Big thanks to all who are posting here with the “highlights” (for want of a better word) to come (for me).
What stands out to me so far (amongst other things) is how fast LE reacted & how many resources they threw at this very very early on. Not forgetting NUA’s, Shanann’s other friends’ & her mother’s input.
I did not expect such a COMPREHENSIVE document “dump”, so SOON.
I’m reading through, slowly, I took a sleep break around 4am.
Big thanks to all who are posting here with the “highlights” (for want of a better word) to come (for me).
What stands out to me so far (amongst other things) is how fast LE reacted & how many resources they threw at this very very early on. Not forgetting NUA’s, Shanann’s other friends’ & her mother’s input.
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I'm Larry Levine from the CNN Headline News Video. Chris Watts will get what's called "Inmate Justice" when the take him out!
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Discovery docs: 18CR2003-Discovery-REDACTED-FINAL.pdf
This link was kindly posted by one of the other members who's username I did not catch as this thread was fast moving last night xx
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I am looking for the whole file, but I did see online a statement that CW talked about the girls throwing chicken nuggets at him. On the porch interviews, he talked about dinner with the girls too. I believe the crime was planned and the reason now obvious, but I think dinner with the kids went hay-wire while SW was in AZ. I think he felt out of control and lost his temper at dinner and that's when the girls were killed. Then, he waited for SW.
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THANK YOU!!!
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Scott Peterson ate pizza upon returning home from dumping the body of his pregnant wife into the San Francisco Bay.
It's like these 2 POSs were following an instruction manual on Family Annihilation.
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I think shanann cancelled it as Chris wasn't in to it a few weeks before. She spoke about it with one of her friends. It's part of those initial conversations nearer beginning of doc..
ETA: Discovery page 52 says she spoke with friend addy and cancelled it 2 weeks ago but didn't see date..
He did however tell his friends (one who's party they went to) on that Sunday the party was that week...!
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Shanann said on that Monday aug 13th Chris wanted to announce gender. Just days before he was giving her hope that he was excited for baby and they would be good. I think that weekend he made up his mind he would kill them. He couldn’t let it get out to NK about he was excited for boy.
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CHRIS then looked at SA CODER and I and said he was sorry for lying to us. SA CODER told CHRIS he
was a good man and CHRIS immediately responded, "I’m not a good man." SA CODER told CHRIS he
stayed to talk even though he knew it was going to be difficult. CHRIS said, "I stayed here for 6 hours and 11
minutes so far" CHRIS was reading the counter on the digital audio recorder. RONNIE said he could
understand how rage could come out by seeing your kids dead. CHRIS told his dad he didn’t understand
what it felt like to see his daughters blue in the face. I told CHRIS his dad was going to love him no matter
what. CHRIS looked at his dad and asked how he could still love someone who killed their wife. CHRIS
said, "Nothing will ever be the same again."
SA CODER asked CHRIS if SHANANN was on top of CECE when he got into the room. CHRIS said
yes. RONNIE asked CHRIS if SHANANN’s hands were around CECE’s throat and CHRIS said he didn’t
know what to do. SA CODER asked CHRIS if he was trying to save CECE and he said, "She was already
blue in the face, she wasn't moving, her head just laying over limp like that." I told CHRIS it was very
important to know where he put the girls at the oil well site and he said, "I didn’t know what else to do, I
didn’t I didn’t know what else to do, I was so scared, it’s like, my wife just did this and I just did
that, what do I do, anything that I would do from there was just gonna be, just a f&ckin’, just insensitive and
just a horrible thing. SA CODER told CHRIS he was in a tough spot. I asked CHRIS if he would show us
where they were located and he asked, "What's gonna happen?" SA CODER told CHRIS we were going to
help his girls get out of there.’ SA CODER asked CHRIS if he preferred one of his co-workers go out there
and he said, "Oh my God, no. No." CHRIS said SA CODER told him everyone thinks of him as a good man
but they will say,"What the did you do, CHRIS, why didn’t you just tell the cops to begin with?"
CHRIS said he could not have his co-workers show us out to the oil well site because they were just going to
form their own opinions about him "once they figure everything out." SA CODER told CHRIS the girls were
still his babies and I told him he didn’t want someone else to find them out there. CHRIS agreed to show us
where they were located at the site. I told CHRIS that SA CODER and I needed to step out of the room to
get some things arranged. RONNIE agreed to stay in the room with CHRIS.
While SA CODER and I were out of the room, RONNIE told CHRIS he was sorry. CHRIS said, "I didn’t
know what the to do, this is just horrible." CHRIS said, "The problem is, I don’t even know if
they (the police) believe me or not." RONNIE said, "I know you’d never do nothing to hurt no
children never that was your life right there those little girls." CHRIS told RONNIE that his mother
always said SHANANN was an unstable person, but he never believed in a million years that could happen.
RONNIE said he was asked if he thought SHANANN could do anything to hurt BELLA and CECE and he
RONNIE told them, "No. Herself, Maybe." RONNIE said he didn’t have a clue SHANANN could do
such a thing. CHRIS asked his dad, "Why did this happen to me? Why did this happen to those two little
girls?" RONNIE told CHRIS he was sorry.
RONNIE told CHRIS he would get him a lawyer and would see what they could do. RONNIE asked
CHRIS if SHANANN killed both of their girls while they were sleeping and CHRIS said "yep." CHRIS said,
"I emotionally drove her to do something stupid." RONNIE told CHRIS it was not his fault and not to blame
himself for it. CHRIS said, "It’s all I can do right now." RONNIE said they would probably call it a "crime of
passion" and CHRIS replied, "I don’t know, like, just because I hid it I hid it that’s the thing that’s the
thing that’s gonna break the camel’s back right there. I didn’t just call the police right after it happened."
CHRIS asked RONNIE if he told his mom yet and RONNIE said no.
RONNIE told CHRIS he loved him no matter what. RONNIE
said he RONNIE was interviewed and he told the detectives there was no way CHRIS would ever hurt
his children. RONNIE said it was a problem he didn’t call the police and CHRIS agreed. RONNIE said they
would just have to prove it some other way. RONNIE said it was unfortunate his baby monitor didn’t record.
RONNIE hugged CHRIS and left the police department.
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Wow. Wow. The dysfunction and denial is real. I mean, it is all Shanann's fault, it honestly wasn't that big of a deal, it was a crime of passion, and don't tell the coworkers because they might think I'm a bad person. Did he think all of this wouldn't get out?!
was a good man and CHRIS immediately responded, "I’m not a good man." SA CODER told CHRIS he
stayed to talk even though he knew it was going to be difficult. CHRIS said, "I stayed here for 6 hours and 11
minutes so far" CHRIS was reading the counter on the digital audio recorder. RONNIE said he could
understand how rage could come out by seeing your kids dead. CHRIS told his dad he didn’t understand
what it felt like to see his daughters blue in the face. I told CHRIS his dad was going to love him no matter
what. CHRIS looked at his dad and asked how he could still love someone who killed their wife. CHRIS
said, "Nothing will ever be the same again."
SA CODER asked CHRIS if SHANANN was on top of CECE when he got into the room. CHRIS said
yes. RONNIE asked CHRIS if SHANANN’s hands were around CECE’s throat and CHRIS said he didn’t
know what to do. SA CODER asked CHRIS if he was trying to save CECE and he said, "She was already
blue in the face, she wasn't moving, her head just laying over limp like that." I told CHRIS it was very
important to know where he put the girls at the oil well site and he said, "I didn’t know what else to do, I
didn’t I didn’t know what else to do, I was so scared, it’s like, my wife just did this and I just did
that, what do I do, anything that I would do from there was just gonna be, just a f&ckin’, just insensitive and
just a horrible thing. SA CODER told CHRIS he was in a tough spot. I asked CHRIS if he would show us
where they were located and he asked, "What's gonna happen?" SA CODER told CHRIS we were going to
help his girls get out of there.’ SA CODER asked CHRIS if he preferred one of his co-workers go out there
and he said, "Oh my God, no. No." CHRIS said SA CODER told him everyone thinks of him as a good man
but they will say,"What the did you do, CHRIS, why didn’t you just tell the cops to begin with?"
CHRIS said he could not have his co-workers show us out to the oil well site because they were just going to
form their own opinions about him "once they figure everything out." SA CODER told CHRIS the girls were
still his babies and I told him he didn’t want someone else to find them out there. CHRIS agreed to show us
where they were located at the site. I told CHRIS that SA CODER and I needed to step out of the room to
get some things arranged. RONNIE agreed to stay in the room with CHRIS.
While SA CODER and I were out of the room, RONNIE told CHRIS he was sorry. CHRIS said, "I didn’t
know what the to do, this is just horrible." CHRIS said, "The problem is, I don’t even know if
they (the police) believe me or not." RONNIE said, "I know you’d never do nothing to hurt no
children never that was your life right there those little girls." CHRIS told RONNIE that his mother
always said SHANANN was an unstable person, but he never believed in a million years that could happen.
RONNIE said he was asked if he thought SHANANN could do anything to hurt BELLA and CECE and he
RONNIE told them, "No. Herself, Maybe." RONNIE said he didn’t have a clue SHANANN could do
such a thing. CHRIS asked his dad, "Why did this happen to me? Why did this happen to those two little
girls?" RONNIE told CHRIS he was sorry.
RONNIE told CHRIS he would get him a lawyer and would see what they could do. RONNIE asked
CHRIS if SHANANN killed both of their girls while they were sleeping and CHRIS said "yep." CHRIS said,
"I emotionally drove her to do something stupid." RONNIE told CHRIS it was not his fault and not to blame
himself for it. CHRIS said, "It’s all I can do right now." RONNIE said they would probably call it a "crime of
passion" and CHRIS replied, "I don’t know, like, just because I hid it I hid it that’s the thing that’s the
thing that’s gonna break the camel’s back right there. I didn’t just call the police right after it happened."
CHRIS asked RONNIE if he told his mom yet and RONNIE said no.
RONNIE told CHRIS he loved him no matter what. RONNIE
said he RONNIE was interviewed and he told the detectives there was no way CHRIS would ever hurt
his children. RONNIE said it was a problem he didn’t call the police and CHRIS agreed. RONNIE said they
would just have to prove it some other way. RONNIE said it was unfortunate his baby monitor didn’t record.
RONNIE hugged CHRIS and left the police department.
____________
Wow. Wow. The dysfunction and denial is real. I mean, it is all Shanann's fault, it honestly wasn't that big of a deal, it was a crime of passion, and don't tell the coworkers because they might think I'm a bad person. Did he think all of this wouldn't get out?!
The tawdry truth of it all is between the lines of that post polygraph transcript with his dad
The Mascara running down her face - speaking from visual memory
"i did the same thing to fncking her.... those were my kids"
IMO this is clear he murdered the kids first, and that rage was transferred on to SW - because she was to blame for it
... she knew he was cheating and he denied it. Ronnie asked Chris if that was the point SW went off and CW said it was when SW started crying.
I wonder if he used the credit card on Saturday night because he knew it no longer mattered to conceal it
The Mascara running down her face - speaking from visual memory
"i did the same thing to fncking her.... those were my kids"
IMO this is clear he murdered the kids first, and that rage was transferred on to SW - because she was to blame for it
... she knew he was cheating and he denied it. Ronnie asked Chris if that was the point SW went off and CW said it was when SW started crying.
I wonder if he used the credit card on Saturday night because he knew it no longer mattered to conceal it
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Finally starting to get caught up, with a PC not a tablet.
1) did anyone run across a description of the cervi site as being planned to close down? IE the bodies would be safe for a long time if this happened.
2) where, approx, are the statements from the WAtts? I found those of the Rzuceks.
3) Just speaking in general, not meant to offend anyone at all, just wondering
a) is everyone in Colorado named some derivative of Nicole/Nick/Nicolas? There must be 6-7 of them in this narrative. Must be a popular name on the plains these days, these decades
b) how does anyone get any work done in this 2018 telephone culture?
1) did anyone run across a description of the cervi site as being planned to close down? IE the bodies would be safe for a long time if this happened.
2) where, approx, are the statements from the WAtts? I found those of the Rzuceks.
3) Just speaking in general, not meant to offend anyone at all, just wondering
a) is everyone in Colorado named some derivative of Nicole/Nick/Nicolas? There must be 6-7 of them in this narrative. Must be a popular name on the plains these days, these decades
b) how does anyone get any work done in this 2018 telephone culture?
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Yes, but of course he wouldn't think of that because that's what humans do.
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