Does anyone else find it strange that two homeless men, one who allegedly spoke to police and booked it shortly after, and another who allegedly heard a scream around 4:15/4:30, was found dead two days later in a dumpster with no obituary to be found?
yes, there is the big dealer theory. Somewhere on these threads, there is a video of a party
where some college kids are partying with older people, allegedly a dealer's apt in 10th and College, that was posted by someone who was at the party. been awhile but an older woman teases and kisses one of the POIs in the case. The video just popped up anonymously.
Lauren didn't really need to look for more drugs, though. She was possibly present during a big drug deal and could have ODd during or shortly after the deal. the second call could have been for narcon.
Years ago I was outside a downtown bar with my friend and I told her we shouldn't be out in the parking lot, it looked dangerous. she scoffed, so we asked the cop as we were going back in, if it was dangerous. He said that very bad people wait outside at these bars, just waiting for a little
lost lamb to come running out, upset, separated from her friends and not paying attention.
The man in prison for killing Hannah Wilson four years later was waiting outside Kilroys, saw her upset, heard the whole thing, including her loudly and repeatedly asking her guy friend to come home with her but he refused and her friends shoved her into the cab, loudly giving her address to the driver. He followed the cab, abducted her from her house as soon as she arrived, and drove her out to lake lemon where he killed her.
Lauren had an altercation at Kilroy's, ran out without her shoes, towards her apt building, made it inside only to be attacked, the effects from the shots she drank at Kilroys kicking in, now
she and her friend are haphazardly escaping and trying to make it up an alley.
Again, she's in the killer's kill zone, and he's looking for a specific type: blacked out girl, in an
altercation. Thataway, lots of POIs to choose from.
If the cousin did drive her away in his trunk, he sat cool as a cucumber at the Runcible Spoon
and texted about his corned beef sandwich before leaving town.
Any detective taking this case on as a cold case should definitely use the threads on here.
Hard to describe the detail work on here, the hours we spent combing over every inch of her
route and timeline, the sleuthing of the POI, their business dealings, the whole mess.
Obsession doesn't describe it, this happened in my home town then happened again, and funny
hasn't happened again since this guy's in jail.
The man found dead in the dumpster some say died of an OD, but we have zero proof of that, and the other left town.... why would he leave town after speaking to BP? of course it’s very easy to relocate when you are homeless, but was he afraid of some repercussions by coming forward with information? and if he was indeed afraid, WHO was he afraid of? surely not the boys allegedly involved.... I’ve also listened numerous podcasts, and seen a lot of Webslueth posts about this case and there are so many “blurry spots” about the timeline. There’s also the withholding of the surveillance footage of when LS was allegedly stumbling and falling down around her Smallwood apartments. We have no indication of if she was maybe looking for her keys to get back into her appt, if she was indeed in the “ extremely messed up” state she was in and how messed up she truly was. Her keys and purse were found in the alley, so why didn’t she ever get back into her appt? We also have her going to JR appt and placing two calls from his phone. One call is allegedly to DR - No Answer... the other call is to who (?)... again, no answer... I know i’m jumping around all over the place, i’m just pointing out certain things in this case I found strange. Imo, with no basis whatsoever other than an opinion to be clear, I think the calls were placed to get more drugs, the cocaine found in her appt proves she may have had none on her and wanted to obtain more. I believe this nights main thesis was the pursuit of more drugs. If i’m correct, based on again, nothing other than an opinion, but we’re 9 years out and still have ZERO leads, who was supplying the drugs? College kids obviously, but the bigger question is where is said drug dealer getting HIS\HER drugs from? the answer is a “bigger dealer.” A bigger dealer is more likely to be dangerous and if no one on campus had the drugs they were looking for, they may have had to get in contact with a more dangerous dealer. This sort of brings me back to the homeless men missing. A big shot drug dealer, if they are dangerous, may have connections, the kind that make seemingly unimportant people (not that homeless ppl aren’t important ppl they 100 percent are) but in the public’s eye, unimportant ppl, leave town. The homeless men were also more than likely into drugs themselves so their knowledge of a dangerous drug dealer would make sense, which could be why one of them booked it out of town as quickly as he could (allegedly). I think ppl often look at this case as either “the boy’s did it” or “she was abducted/ murdered” or “it was DM.” But we never stopped to think maybe the boys know AND someone else knows, and they share a common reason to get rid of LS. What if she died in the presence of someone “dangerous” and the boys involved we’re there as well. It proves why the boys would never speak up, they may be afraid of what this alleged person may or may not do to them/ their families were they ever to speak up. This is all conjecture of course. I may be way off and sorta lean towards thinking it was a random abduction, I just felt it was strange that the BP held their cards so close to their chest in this case. Not only did the public never see the surveillance videos, her own parents haven’t even seen them. Lastly, the white truck that circled around twice that night, I forget but in one of the podcasts the speaker said “the white truck was cleared” But why? why don’t we ever get an explanation as to why it was cleared? I look at that photo and I know it’s blurry and impossible to truly tel but I see LS, or SOMEONE huddled in the back of the pickup, that’s just me though. Lastly, the BP are seen at the boys appts 26 DAYS after she went missing, that in insane to me! almost a month out ! Anyway these are just conjectures and i’m sure nothing will come of it bc it’s been so long, but I believe there are bigger moving parts at play in this case.
