ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 70

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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The true crime community is inundated with discussion of the Daily Mail article about the Reddit posts by Pappa Rodger and InsideLooking possibly having been made by BK. That is still speculation with no confirmation from official sources. As there is a gag order in place, there is no new ‘official’ information for discussion.

Websleuths would not normally allow discussion of any Reddit posts UNLESS the social media account is known to belong to a victim or a POI/suspect. After discussion with Tricia, Websleuths is making a thread specific exception in this instance to allow discussion of those 2 accounts because it is being covered by MSM and our WS approved sources (Jennifer Coffindaffer and Hidden True Crime).

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[YaYa_521]

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[MadMcGoo]

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[Sillybilly]

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[CocoChanel]

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[gliving]

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gliving has asked permission to post a video from Chronicles of Olivia because it contains an interview with the Goncalves family. We are approving it with the following limitations:

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Thanks! This interview occurred two days before the arrest of suspect Bryan Kohberger but for whatever reason was only released yesterday.

 

[YaYa_521]

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We are aware of the article released today that focuses on the "incel complex". The discussion topic remains off-limits until/unless Mods or Admins advise otherwise. Please do not post the link to the article or discuss its content.

ADMIN NOTE:

Move on from the incel discussion folks. It is strictly speculation not based on any known fact and other members and guests don't come here to read the same discussion/debate over and over again.

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[YaYa_521]

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[YaYa_521]

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[YaYa_521]

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Please refrain from offering your own interpretation of or speculation on BK's handwriting unless you are a verified expert in the field. Statement analysis, body language analysis, amateur handwriting analysis is not allowed unless sourced to a credentialed, forensic specialist involved in the case under discussion.

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[YaYa_521]

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Previous posts were removed due to sleuthing Xana's mom, Cara Northington. Now that Ms. Northington has gone public, any interviews or what she says in MSM or what is said about her in MSM can be discussed. Discuss only the facts that are reported in the media. Do not make random accusations, insinuations, suggest her involvement, trash, bash or attack her, or speculate negatively about her.

 

[gliving]

Thanks for the new thread:

 

[r3d-ros3]

FWIW, I feel sad that Xana's mom has to appear on, for example, an interview with Banfield. The district attorney issue is a big one and there are obvious ethical problems. I am not a lawyer, so I can't speak for the details. What a tragic situation.