MO - Furious Friends Demand Answers After 3 Men Found Dead at Kansas City Home Days After Watching Football Game, January 2024

[Rose1981]

Would this have been given for the purpose of robbing him? Just trying to understand motive here.

The options for motive are endless in this situation. I would need more information.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

He can’t say that definitively. If he was high (cocaine) and drunk, he certainly could’ve gone into the backyard with his friends for a quick smoke then the fentanyl hit. This is what I think happened.

All MOO

His father can certainly give his opinion on his experience. All of this coke and fentanyl and smoking can't be referenced with any degree of certainty either, but most of this thread has been about the death of 3 men from drug use, while the 4th man didn't partake. It's all speculation at this point. MOO

 

[Starrlight]

Was the complete description of the position of the bodies ever reported? We know one victim was found on the porch and the others elsewhere in the yard, but were they flung randomly across the area, or sitting in or next to a lawn chair, around a firepit, or sitting at a table for example.

There’s nothing in the backyard. Not a chair, not a plant. One was on patio near back door and other two in yard.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

There’s nothing in the backyard. Not a chair, not a plant. One was on patio near back door and other two in yard.

I read, and I can't begin to remember where, but it was in one of yesterday's articles, that 2 were found in the snow. That makes sense if there was snow on the ground that they might reference it as "in the snow."

 

[Blondem123]

It's interesting to me that it took so long for anyone to start to look for the 3 men. I know if my husband/boyfriend/family member didn't come home for days after going to a football party, I would call everyone I know, including the police, unless they were known drug users, and they often went under the radar for days at a time. I find it strange that there was only 1 DM to the friend Willis via social media and nothing else.
And Willis, who had the party never went outside in 2 days? He never noticed his friend's cars? Was there something in the food/drink that nobody knew about? I can't wait for the tox reports, this case is truly bizarre!

 

[sunshineray]

Was the complete description of the position of the bodies ever reported? We know one victim was found on the porch and the others elsewhere in the yard, but were they flung randomly across the area, or sitting in or next to a lawn chair, around a firepit, or sitting at a table for example. LE knows this and it might also suggest no foul play.

A body dragged outside leaves drag marks on the ground and drag marks on the body/clothing which should be evident. These are big guys to carry out into the yard over your shoulder.

All I've ever read was one body was found on the "porch" and two others in the backyard..

Where I live a porch either has 3-4 steps going up to a landing to a door (not to be confused with a longer set of stairs with a landing called a stoop, usually in the city). A porch can also be a small sunroom or a long skinny non-heated room usually attached to the back of the house (although there are many houses around near me that have enclosed or open front porches too).

The pictures of the flagstone area being called a porch is what I'd call a patio. So at first I thought one body was inside that back sunroom (the "porch") and the other two were outside.

Turns out all three were outside but one was on the flagstone area near the sunroom. If I've finally interpreted that correctly?

 

[sunshineray]

"Walked them to the door" I don't buy that. Guys hanging out, some friends for year , possibly under the influence. Too formal, moo

Yeah at first the lawyer said "escorted" them to the front door and edited himself to walked them to the front door. And that after initially saying his client never saw the 3 men exit his house.

 

[Rose1981]

Yeah at first the lawyer said "escorted" them to the front door and edited himself to walked them to the front door. And that after initially saying his client never saw the 3 men exit his house.

If they went out the front door, how did they get in the fenced in backyard? The fiancee is said to have broke in went down in the basement, and went out of the home to get to the backyard, because she could not get into the fence. That means they either had to have come back, or never left.

 

[sunshineray]

If they went out the front door, how did they get in the fenced in backyard? The fiancee is said to have broke in went down in the basement, and went out of the home to get to the backyard, because she could not get into the fence. That means they either had to have come back, or never left.

Well in that interview the lawyer said, He escorted/walked them to the front door, said goodnight and home owner crashed on the couch leaving the door unlocked. So insinuating they all came back in?

 

[happyday]

Yeah at first the lawyer said "escorted" them to the front door and edited himself to walked them to the front door. And that after initially saying his client never saw the 3 men exit his house.

I’m starting to feel kinda bad for the attorney. I think he’s probably reporting what he’s being told, and now is having to clarify everything because his client keeps remembering things differently as time goes on? Possibly due to severe intoxication as well? I don’t know, but I really doubt the attorney is just making things up and changing the story, but I bet he wishes he never gave any details to the press to start with!

 

[Rose1981]

Well in that interview the lawyer said, He escorted/walked them to the front door, said goodnight and home owner crashed on the couch leaving the door unlocked. So insinuating they all came back in?

He needs to hire a different lawyer. The one he has, already muddied the water. Why would he crash on the couch? Was he so sleepy he couldn't make it to his bed? Walking his friends to the door is weird. How many times have you walked your friends to the door? Unless you were trying to get them to leave.

 

[iridized]

He needs to hire a different lawyer. The one he has, already muddied the water. Why would he crash on the couch? Was he so sleepy he couldn't make it to his bed? Walking his friends to the door is weird. How many times have you walked your friends to the door? Unless you were trying to get them to leave.

Every single time. It would seem to be rude not to walk them to the door.

 

[Marie A]

All IMHO
I feel sorry for Jordan Willis.
I think this was a very unfortunate accident based on known drug use gone bad.
I don’t see ANYONE denying drug use- not the mother of one of the deceased, not the attorneys.
<modsnip: no source links>
Also I think he’s a decent, generous and loving person- buying $1k tickets for his friends as a gift/ with no belief of being paid back is very thoughtful and kind.
I know someone <modsnip> who is clueless about many social things, will go days not checking his phone messages or texts, months without checking social media so Facebook messaging would never catch his attention, is introverted so needs “down time” after social interactions and could build a rocket but can’t pick up on social cues.He also drinks wine all by himself sometimes. I think Jordan is the same type.
The families of the three deceased are trying to pin blame on Jordan when he’s really just clueless regarding all of it. It’s just a really, really sad and strange accident I think. Laced drugs by far makes the most sense to me.

 

[Chimera]

If they went out the front door, how did they get in the fenced in backyard? The fiancee is said to have broke in went down in the basement, and went out of the home to get to the backyard, because she could not get into the fence. That means they either had to have come back, or never left.

Emphasis mine.
Bingo.

Good observations, btw !
Omo.

 

[MyBelle]

The homeowner is changing his story. Inconsistent about where they watched the game. That’s not good.

You mean the renter of the property? All I've seen are his attorneys' comments. Has what the renter told police (without the presence of his attorney) changed? If so, I'd appreciate a link. Thanks!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

All IMHO
I feel sorry for Jordan Willis.
I think this was a very unfortunate accident based on known drug use gone bad.
I don’t see ANYONE denying drug use- not the mother of one of the deceased, not the attorneys.
<modsnip>
Also I think he’s a decent, generous and loving person- buying $1k tickets for his friends as a gift/ with no belief of being paid back is very thoughtful and kind.
I know someone <modsnip> who is clueless about many social things, will go days not checking his phone messages or texts, months without checking social media so Facebook messaging would never catch his attention, is introverted so needs “down time” after social interactions and could build a rocket but can’t pick up on social cues.He also drinks wine all by himself sometimes. I think Jordan is the same type.
The families of the three deceased are trying to pin blame on Jordan when he’s really just clueless regarding all of it. It’s just a really, really sad and strange accident I think. Laced drugs by far makes the most sense to me.

There's no evidence of drug use at this time. Just because nobody denied it doesn't mean it's more likely they were doing drugs. Nobody's parents or attorneys are denying a lightning bolt hit them all. It's just as likely, and there is just as much evidence, that they were all struck by the same lightning strike. JMO

 

[Rose1981]

Every single time. It would seem to be rude not to walk them to the door.

Can I ask why?

 

[Chimera]

Well in that interview the lawyer said, He escorted/walked them to the front door, said goodnight and home owner crashed on the couch leaving the door unlocked. So insinuating they all came back in ?

Bbm.
Ita with all above.
It's a bit confusing, to say the least !
I have a link I'll include in another post, re. the 'returning' aspect.

I’m starting to feel kinda bad for the attorney. I think he’s probably reporting what he’s being told, and now is having to clarify everything because his client keeps remembering things differently as time goes on? Possibly due to severe intoxication as well? I don’t know, but I really doubt the attorney is just making things up and changing the story, but I bet he wishes he never gave any details to the press to start with!

Bolding mine.
Yes, it sounds like that is what could be happening, as opposed to the atty. coming up with details all on his own ?
Even the initial part about the host not leaving the residence for two days ?
If the lawyer wasn't there at the house, he'd have no idea whether the host was present or not.
Omo.

 

[iridized]

Can I ask why?

Proper etiquette. Not only should you walk them to the door the host should open the door.

 

[SMK777]

It's just as likely, and there is just as much evidence, that they were all struck by the same lightning strike. JMO

Snipped for focus.
I disagree. Fentanyl accidental poisoning presumably appears more often with small groups of adults found suddenly dead, than do lightening strikes. This is presumed based on online news reports.