FLOOR-PLAN of Baby Lisa Irwin's home likelihood of this being stranger abduction

[Patty G]

Okay, let me go search and see if I can find the interview where Jeremy tells us exactly what he did when he came home.

It was either Judge Jeanine or Megan Kelly. I'm pretty certain of that.

Did he says "check on the boys" or boy? He would have had to see one child in bed with DB?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Here: (first video) http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/1...e-asks-if-they-sold-or-killed-their-daughter/

~@ around the 3:30 mark, Debbie states that both boys were awake when she went to bed, so she told them THEY could sleep in her room.

Here: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/1...e-asks-if-they-sold-or-killed-their-daughter/

~ @ the :27 mark, Jeremy omits going in and waking Debbie, and says after noticing the odd condition of the house, he checked on the kids. He clearly says he checked on the boys first.

And here: [ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out[/ame]

~ @ around the 2:29 mark (skipping through all of Debbie's histrionics and irrelevant chatter about when she leaves windows open) we piece together an account where Jeremy 1st comes home, notices the lights, door unlocked, and tries to close the computer room window BEFORE coming into the room and waking her up. In this version of the story, Jeremy noticed Lisa's bedroom door open BEFORE he wakes Debbie. It's while he's talking to Debbie in the bedroom that he recalls Lisa's bedroom door open, and he then runs and checks on her and finds her missing. NO mention of checking on the boys first. But we do learn that HER son was sleeping in bed with her. So...what happened to the previous version where both the boys were awake so she told THEM they could sleep in her bed?

 

[rosepetal1065]

This feels alot like the Cummings case....I know things can happen but...*shakes head*

 

[nursebeeme]

thread to discuss the tours of the Irwin home..

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/lisa-irwin-inside-home-14695353

(first look 10/8/11)

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45014011#45014011

(second look 10/24/11)

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.kmbc.com/r-video/29568370/detail.html

and another tour ((with attorney))

 

[Daisyjane]

The window in Lisa's room was covered with a black plastic trash-bag looking material, which was taped to the walls. No curtains or other window treatments like you'd expect in a nursery or girly-girl room.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

The window in Lisa's room was covered with a black plastic trash-bag looking material, which was taped to the walls. No curtains or other window treatments like you'd expect in a nursery or girly-girl room.

BBM: I have been wondering about that as well ...

Does anyone know WHY this window is covered with these dark trash bags ?

TIA !

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Here, at the 3:24 mark, we see a closeup of the empty Franzia wine box. It is a 5 liter box.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45014011#45014011

According to this website, a 5 liter box holds approximately 33 glasses of wine.

http://www.aboutboxedwine.com/blog/how-many-glasses-of-wine-are-in-the-box/

(Not trying to open this thread up for a discussion on drinking in general...just pointing out what we see in the video.)

 

[Nana46]

The window in Lisa's room was covered with a black plastic trash-bag looking material, which was taped to the walls. No curtains or other window treatments like you'd expect in a nursery or girly-girl room.

I believe I read here that the window was covered during a possible Luminol inspection,HTH

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Here (1st video), @ the :38 mark, we see 2 rifles and a baseball bat next to the dresser in the master bedroom.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne.../nbc-get-its-first-look-inside-the-irwin-home

That makes me wonder if the Irwin's had some concern for their safety.

Same video, @ the :52 mark, we see what appears to be some sort of splatter on the wall of Lisa's bedroom, next to the framed foot/hand print. Possible it's been there for quite some time, but I am reminded that LE found a baby bottle of the floor of Lisa's bedroom. This wall is too far away for an infant to have thrown her bottle and hit it. Also too high. Not implying anything here, just making note of what I see.

 

[Angelray]

thats a lot of wine to be drank from 5 till bedtime I would think.

 

[KCMommie]

Starts at 1:17 (10/25/11)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8koGT87w74&feature=channel_video_title"]10/25/2011 (TODAY): Deborah Irwin's Estranged Husband Speaks - Where Is Baby Lisa? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[LancelotLink]

Some major differences in the parent's room from Matt Gutman tour to Peter Whatshisname tour. Laundry basket on MG tour is empty and beside the bed. You can see it just beyond the vaccuum cleaner handle.

Later in the PH tour, empty laundry basket is moved to foot corner of bed, heaped with clothes from the closet, and where the basket used to be is now a brown pillow, something that resembles a puppy pad, an open purse and all of these items seem to be lined up side by side. Hmmm.

 

[stilettos]

Here, at the 3:24 mark, we see a closeup of the empty Franzia wine box. It is a 5 liter box.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45014011#45014011

According to this website, a 5 liter box holds approximately 33 glasses of wine.

http://www.aboutboxedwine.com/blog/how-many-glasses-of-wine-are-in-the-box/

(Not trying to open this thread up for a discussion on drinking in general...just pointing out what we see in the video.)

hwow:hwow: Lots of vino.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

hwow:hwow: Lots of vino.

Certainly more vino than I would think 2 women alone would be able to drink....4 hours.

 

[~n/t~]

Lisa's crib bothers me a lot. I know it's been mentioned before but those mattresses are way too high for a 10 month old.

Something doesn't make sense.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Also, in the shot that shows the rifles and baseball bat, you can see that the electrical outlet doesn't have a cover. No idea if it was always like that, or if LE took that plate, but I suspect it was the former.

 

[RANCH]

Here (1st video), @ the :38 mark, we see 2 rifles and a baseball bat next to the dresser in the master bedroom.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne.../nbc-get-its-first-look-inside-the-irwin-home

That makes me wonder if the Irwin's had some concern for their safety.

Same video, @ the :52 mark, we see what appears to be some sort of splatter on the wall of Lisa's bedroom, next to the framed foot/hand print. Possible it's been there for quite some time, but I am reminded that LE found a baby bottle of the floor of Lisa's bedroom. This wall is too far away for an infant to have thrown her bottle and hit it. Also too high. Not implying anything here, just making note of what I see.

The rifle closest to the bat may be a Remington pump action .22LR. Can't see enough of the other gun to tell much about it. JMO.

http://www.adelaidegunshop.com.au/i...id=89&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

 

[In da Middle]

Here (1st video), @ the :38 mark, we see 2 rifles and a baseball bat next to the dresser in the master bedroom.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne.../nbc-get-its-first-look-inside-the-irwin-home

That makes me wonder if the Irwin's had some concern for their safety.

Same video, @ the :52 mark, we see what appears to be some sort of splatter on the wall of Lisa's bedroom, next to the framed foot/hand print. Possible it's been there for quite some time, but I am reminded that LE found a baby bottle of the floor of Lisa's bedroom. This wall is too far away for an infant to have thrown her bottle and hit it. Also too high. Not implying anything here, just making note of what I see.

I can assume he goes hunting with the rifles and not for protection. He has been seen leaving in the turquoise camper during rifle season for several years. I am sure they are lying where LE left them after the 17 hour search.

 

[otto]

I think we've finally nailed the floorplan. If there are any updates, I'll update the drawing.