Brandon Scott Lavergne - Guilty Plea and LWOP

[Passnthru]

It looks like he's holding the chain. Two more views:

Yes it looks like that is what it is. Can't see what finger was suppose to have been cut off.

 

[Ihavenoname]

i have a hard time searching previous post bc half the time i can hardly find the forum which we are currently using. but can someone find the thread in which a poster alleged that the struggle went on in the truck? it was around the time they had found her body. its not hellu important, i just wanted to reread what the poster had said.

Maybe look in "New developments and general discussions" post 618. I was pretty close to what happened. Just couldn't post anything else

 

[rollinginit]

Mickey is back home

http://www.klfy.com/story/19324456/shunick-remains-back-home

 

[Passnthru]

Was Adam on this forum or only the other one? Just curious.

I don't know about this one. I had joined the other one just days before all of this with Adam came down. Then I found this site and pretty much stuck to it.

 

[GulfCoastKAT]

i have a hard time searching previous post bc half the time i can hardly find the forum which we are currently using. but can someone find the thread in which a poster alleged that the struggle went on in the truck? it was around the time they had found her body. its not hellu important, i just wanted to reread what the poster had said.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8265067"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - New Developments and General Discussion, 08/10/2012[/ame]

 

[rhapsdy]

But I'm not buying BSL's one-sided version of events for one second. I think he was looking for a victim. I think he is an evil monster. I think he had the grave dug ahead of time, and had the open grave covered with sticks and leaves. He knew he was going to kill and his past experience(s) taught him how important it is to get rid of the body and other evidence as soon as possible. I don't think it is likely he could have dug a deep grave with his hand injury. Think about it; that night he was calling around to escort services looking for someone, his next victim. I also am not buying the part about him taking Mickey's pulse. That was a "yeah, right" moment for me.

I totally agree! I mean - he went to the cemetery and realized he couldn't dig with his hand - from my understanding of the events (correct me if I'm wrong) he went there directly from the cane field. So that means he had to have items in his truck ready to dig a massive grave.

 

[justwannahelp]

if he had Onstar in the first truck, was it working? i'm guessing it wasn't because LE would have been able to track his driving to the cemetery twice if Onstar was working in his 2011 truck. just one more little detail that is nagging me. i know it shouldn't. she's home. just wondering

 

[justwannahelp]

I totally agree! I mean - he went to the cemetery and realized he couldn't dig with his hand - from my understanding of the events (correct me if I'm wrong) he went there directly from the cane field. So that means he had to have items in his truck ready to dig a massive grave.

according to plea document, he went home from the field before going to the cemetery. it says to nurse his wounds.

 

[Crimson clover]

I am really let down. I have always thought that all the folks in Cajun country was waving due to their friendly nature.. Now I learn that they are only waving due to all the bugs in the air...

Hey, Foxfire...:seeya:!

 

[Really?]

IMO....LP did not go willingly...ie...abducted.

Can somebody please let me know why ITF do they let these "tier 3, tier 2", whatever, out of supervised custody anyway? There is no cure for deviant behavior.

I would like to see the stats on repeat offenders.

This should not be a " 1 strike, 2 strike" type of crime. People are dying as a result of this legal leniency. HELP....I am afraid.

 

[jujube]

considering BSL has gotten LWOP, surely he wouldn't have anything to lose by admitting if he did rape mickey?

Yes, he would. If he says he went after Mickey and raped her, then he looks very bad. Notice in his "confession", he "persuaded" Mickey to get into the truck. It wasn't until Mickey attacked him that he stabbed her and it wasn't until she miraculously jumped up and attacked him again that he had to shoot her. In other words, Mickey brought all her injuries upon herself because she attacked him.
I don't believe a word of it.

ETA: He stabbed and shot Mickey, that part I do believe.

I read the police report for the Evangeline parish Oral sexual battery case and it's terrifying but he didn't rape that victim. Something stopped him- the report says his victim told him she was a virgin and that's why he didn't rape her. I don't think that she was raped. I would think that the DA and the police would make darn sure that his plea in that case included the rape and not lesser charge of Oral Sexual Battery.

Police report here: http://1079ishot.com/brandon-scott-lavergne-1999-arrest-report/

Very graphic.

BSL raped her. Forcing someone to have sex-anally, orally, or vaginally- is rape.

I am really let down. I have always thought that all the folks in Cajun country was waving due to their friendly nature.. Now I learn that they are only waving due to all the bugs in the air...

You think maybe what I am seeing is he is holding loose chain in his hand? Guess I'm just wishing for horrible scars and deformaties on him.

The chain is kind of long. If he hadn't held it, his nickname might have changed from "man voice" to "lady voice".

May 22, 2012 12:42 pm.


I know that because I had just starting following along on that site and when I saw that I croaked, it clicked in my head that somehow this was going to turn into something deeper so I took a screen shot. At the time most on that site were blowing that poor guy off. Boy were they shocked when all of this blew up. I could tell that guy Adam was truly scared for his sister-in-law. Others started encouraging him to delete all of his post so I took screen shots because I was ready for bed and want to read them later.

No, it was May 26th, I just went to my files and copied the date from my screenshot:
Need OT advice...again (Posted on 5/26/12 at 12:42 p.m.)

 

[rhapsdy]

according to plea document, he went home from the field before going to the cemetery. it says to nurse his wounds.

Interesting...so he's saying he brought mickey to his house in his truck and left her there while he nursed his wounds. ugh. There are no words for him.

 

[BayouBecky]

I do not believe Mickey was raped at all. Oh no doubt that was his intention but she would not have given up something she had saved. She died to protect herself from that. I believe no man with stab wounds right off the bat would even be capable of thinking of that when they had to be in horrific pain from the wounds. Just think how bad a little paper cut burns. And remember right off the bat he assumed he had killed her because he could not find a pulse. I think at that time he was to scared to get "that" to work.

I find myself wondering if that was the intention when BSL reached the cane field -- he'd intended on doing what he originally wanted, and she realized it, so stabbed him again. Or, perhaps, she thought that was what he had in mind?

A little tiny voice in my head says "if only she'd continued to play dead, maybe he'd have left her in the field and she could have escaped," even though I know that's horribly unlikely. I don't for a minute believe that he told the whole truth, that he left out his motives or actions or words to make it appear more self-serving, but this is something I wish I knew for certain.

Is anyone else here planning on going to the memorial service for the public? I'd love to not go alone if I can help it.

 

[cluciano63]

If he did rape Mickey, he wouldn't admit it, as rapist are treated worse in prison, especially rapists/murderers. He can try to stick to his semi-"self-defense" story this way. Why should be admit to being a rapist as well, if the evidence is long gone?

Still, I doubt he was able to, if his hand was injured badly enough. And from what we know, there is a fair chance she was still fully dressed when located.

 

[JBean]

I don't believe for one second this was the reason...I believe he got a good look at the evidence.

This is one of the same reasons John Gardener gave. Sounds like he followed the JG lead and went down the same road almost exactly.
What is fact and what is fiction we may never know.

 

[MamaRoux]

If he did rape Mickey, he wouldn't admit it, as rapist are treated worse in prison, especially rapists/murderers. He can try to stick to his semi-"self-defense" story this way. Why should be admit to being a rapist as well, if the evidence is long gone?

Still, I doubt he was able to, if his hand was injured badly enough. And from what we know, there is a fair chance she was still fully dressed when located.

Whether or not he raped Mickey is a moot point in as far as how rapists are treated in prison. EVERYONE already knows that he is a tier 3 sex offender whether he admits anything or not. That part is a done deal.

 

[Kateinfl]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/artic...sey=nav|head
LAFAYETTE -- Mickey Shunick could be coming home today.

The Lafayette Parish Coroner’s Office has finished processing Shunick’s remains and will release them to the family “if they have a funeral home,” according to Keith Talamo, chief medicolegal investigator for the coroner’s office.

Staff at the coroner’s office confirmed that Shunick died from a gunshot wound to the head with multiple stab wounds contributing to the cause of death, Talamo said.

I think even if he didn't shoot her ..she might have died from the stab wounds...multiple stab wounds contributed to her death. So even if he left her in the field..i doubt if she would have survived..jmo

 

[FOTOBUG]

allusonz, i had to log back on just to try to respond to your very powerful post. I am a little at a loss as to how to do that, but i want to try.

I can only speak for myself: Thinking that mickey might not have been raped has nothing to do with wanting to minimize or close my eyes to any part of her horrific experience.

I have never experienced rape, so i confess that i do not have full insight into that experience, but i have to believe that rape, as soul-shattering as it must be, is not always truly "the fate worse than death" -- and mickey died. So it's not about minimizing, for me.

I truly believe it is possible that she was not sexually assaulted, but certainly she may have been. I think bsl may not have been so confident that le doesn't have evidence of rape that he would have omitted that at the risk of having the dp reinstated if he was caught in the lie. Avoiding death, it seems, is the very reason most people feel he confessed to begin with.

I also think it's possible that he may, for the same reason, have confessed to sexually assaulting her, if he did, and those details were left out of documents and public statements that were expected to be of intense public interest. I am not saying, if that is what happened, that i think that's a good idea -- i'm just saying it may have happened.

I can't help what i believe is most likely the case. By believing it, i don't mean any injustice to mickey or to you. I am sorry the topic is so painful for you -- i do understand why it would be.

chicken fried ~
i do not know you nor anything about you. Most of what you have stated in terms of what went down, i have very many times agreed with you.
Allusonz is not attacking you or your theory, beliefs. She is merely disagreeing with you and you are taking it personal, which surprises me. I agree with allusonz, that the truth was probably not told. Bsl is a convicted sex offender, a proven liar and only worried about his own skin. The fact is that he was looking for sex on the eveining he abducted mickey. As sad as that is, it is true. Initially, i believed that because things didn't go his way and ms wounded him, that he probably did not sexually assault her. I have rethought that and changed my position. Yes, he was wounded, probably very painfully. However, his wounds were not life threatening as originally stated. When he returned to bury mickey, he dug a 5 foot grave, despite his hand wounds, which were depicted as his most serious of wounds. No one is going to convince me that he did not sexually assault her during life or in her death. We are dealing with a very, very sick individual. Having painfully said this, it is in no disrespect toward ms, our heroine. Despite her best efforts, he killed her and admitted to that, along with killing lp. What he never mentioned nor owned up to was; no matter how badly injured, this did not deter his sexual appetite and original intention to sexually assault mickey / or have sex with a prostitute
that evening. I believe that just as much as his will to survive that attack, he was determined to get his jollies off, show her / punish her / make her pay "for what she did to him." it was all her fault. Again, he is not responsible. That is how it stacks up in his mind. He is the victim. As for myself, i have never been raped, thankfully, am not a forensic physchiatrist, or le. I am basing my judgement of the night's events solely on his past meniacal record of lying and trying to persuade people to believe him. All of these thoughts are my own and i mean no disrespect toward mickey, you or anyone else. I merely beg to differ with what you believe. Despite all of our opinions of what went down that night, it does not change the fact that she is responsible for bringing him down and being locked up for life in angola tonight + he will not attack, abduct, assault another woman because of her brave actions to fight him off. Mickey is everyone's heroine and bsl has ruined the lives of a loving family who will forever miss their brutally slain daughter and sister. It is so senseless and tragic. Having said all of this, i respect you and anybody else's opinion to disagree. These are my thoughts only. Very sadly.

 

[FOTOBUG]

who actually drafts that document? And then is it passed back and forth amd modified until both parties are somewhat agreed? I' m wondering if there was any give and take involved in the wording.

this is a very important question, but who knows ? We are not privy
to all of the inner workings and dealings which have arrived at this finished testamony.
Anybody know ? Anyone legal out there ?

 

[kgeaux]

Yes, he would. If he says he went after Mickey and raped her, then he looks very bad. Notice in his "confession", he "persuaded" Mickey to get into the truck. It wasn't until Mickey attacked him that he stabbed her and it wasn't until she miraculously jumped up and attacked him again that he had to shoot her. In other words, Mickey brought all her injuries upon herself because she attacked him. .)[/I]

I thought he attacked her because she attempted to call 911. He admitted that; he is not claiming she attacked him first. She tried to dial 911, he prevented her, she maced him, he pulled out a knife, etc.