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While it is very easy for us to sit here and think and debate what has happened and what could have been , there is a lot of truth in your post , for one simple reason and any pilot I'm sure will agree : Aviate, navigate , communicate In that order , always .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/air-india-warned-over-systemic-lapses-in-fatigue-management-and-training-documents-show/ar-AA1JbZcv?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=15c8de72c95f45c0bc563722bf18a8b2&ei=10 Air India warned over 'systemic' lapses in fatigue management and training, documents show

Yep agreed , it wouldn't have made a difference . Aircraft was just too low.

Which begs another question , but I suspect this is more to do with airline policies and procedures . Many airlines I work with and have worked with have an APU on policy until a certain altitude has been reached ( and that isn't a fixed value as far as I know ) . I would imagine that this is a...

Thank you for the well expressed reply ! From the picture I've uploaded it's still fairly close to the tarmac , which makes me think this happened literally after rotation if not during .

Thanks Dotta , I actually read the article you posted and unfortunately she's not mentioned which flight she was referring to . I tried to do a bit of digging in the accident database and on 17th January at Osaka , this aircraft suffered engines shutdown after landing and was stuck on the...

It would be good to know which ANA flight she is referring to .

This picture has been bothering me for a while. Why is the RAT being deployed so early as the aircraft was barely wheels up ? Did the FO call "positive rate gear up" and the PIC cut off the fuel by mistake instead of raising the gear lever? I ask this question because judging by the position of...

In my opinion , to put it into perspective, it's faster than changing two gears in a car . And that doesn't take long , especially if one has done it hundreds, thousands of times .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wgjqj4xx4o While I refrain from blaming until a final report is issued , and while this article is unrelated and also in my view an extremely rare occasion , this is what happened to a BA flight . Pilot reduced thrust by mistake which led to a rejected...

Again I have to prefix with JMO , but crew hours start from hotel pick up (in case of overnight ) so you can easily see how the problems would occur . In any case the issue revolves around , again IMO , operating a 2 crew in the flight deck . There's no relief during the flight so their hours...

https://news.sky.com/story/air-india-warned-by-watchdog-over-pilot-scheduling-breaches-13386670 Crew apparently exceeding flying hours , this is very likely due to operating a 2 flight deck therefore no relief during flight. P.S. edited to add that this is probably an issue due to longer...

I have to prefix this with JMO , but Air India operate with a CLC ( Centralized Load Control ) policy , whereby a dispatcher operates remotely and releases the Loadsheet via ACARS once the load has been distributed and confirmed by a Ramp Agent or Turnaround Coordinator at the aircraft . So the...

https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/navigating-impact-airborne-dust-aircraft This aircraft seemed to kick up quite a lot of dust during rotation . While I'm doubtful that one single event (unless very high quantities of sand/dust were ingested ) would cause a catastrophic double engine failure...

We can truly only speculate until official investigation reports become available . Mmm unlikely that it's a single engine failure as 1 is sufficient to climb up and return and plus it would be quite visible to the naked eye in terms of rudder input to keep the aircraft straight . But as we...

Is anybody aware if there are any images of the wings after the crash (or presumably whatever is left of them as with that kind of explosion i wouldn't expect too see much as a lot fuel would have been in the wing tanks at that stage ) ? TYIA

The last portion of the flight (picked up on flightradar24) seems very consistent with control surfaces damage (elevators malfunction) , as it seems to lose (and regain) altitude in a very uncontrolled way . It also shows altitude to be 0 at some point , which would be interesting to know from...

Finally made it out , haven't you Mr P. But....freedom comes with a greater degree of responsibility. Let's see what you do with it .

How horrific .

Or maybe one of them spoke ?