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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #11

    July 11th arrest: ".... arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Helen Bailey". Apart from the shock of being arrested there would (to an innocent person) be the additional shock of learning that Helen was not missing but dead, and indeed murdered. His response, "you're joking", seems...
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    I too was reminded of Shipman: another chap who seemed to think he was cleverer than anyone around him, while demonstrating beyond doubt that he was decidedly dirt-dumb.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #11

    I too was reminded of Shipman: another chap who seemed to think he was cleverer than anyone around him, while demonstrating beyond doubt that he was decidedly dirt-dumb.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    Thanks for the noble lines of Scott, Florrie.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    I did a double-take there, thinking for a few seconds that she'd been given a yacht! Speed-reading can lead to misunderstanding, in many ways :-) (Ok i guess it was my speed-thinking :-))
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    I wonder whether he was required to lose the beard. If not, it was a dumb move on his part. Unmasked, almost literally.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    (counsellor) > he loved dogs !!?!??!!!
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    > > Hm, throwing his beans out of the pram. > Or out of the can?! Ooh, you are awful, y'all. :-)
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    As has been noted, he was a cringe-inducingly pants actor when it came to "I am not guilty in any way". By contrast, he was effective at "I am an affable, cuddlesome, straight-up and down-to-earth kind of guy, in many ways". His employment of a beard helped in that. In the post-beard...
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

    Regarding the sons, it would be interesting to know over what time-scale their views evolved. Oliver visited IS in prison, Jamie didn't. From responses in court to Mr Trimmer it sounded like Oliver was still with IS, but Jamie wasn't. I'd imagine they've both disowned him by now.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Something that i am interested - sorry, i mean curious - to know: how is liability for defense costs affected by the choice of an expensive counsel a) in the case of conviction b) in the case of acquittal.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Money which could have gone to his sons.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Your request for summary is optimally timed in fact, hayaletcatcher, coming as it does at the time of the judge's summing up (begun Friday, continuing today, to be concluded tomorrow).
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Thanks for that, which also has remarks on the reasonable doubt issue.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Thanks. So there's another right-on-the-money matter being pointed out by the judge. In the absence of explanation, it's pretty much a conclusive piece of evidence on its own. (The only conceivable explanation would have been to claim he was 'told to do it' by the alleged abductors.)
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Did IS or the Defense offer anything on the otherwise glaring piece of theatrical track-covering quoted above, to explain how it could (in any way) fit with the J&N narrative? Similarly: was any explanation offered for texting Helen's phone? Sorry to have missed both points at the time.
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    I wonder whether 'witnesses' of that kind can be compelled to appear? Anyway, as they were called by the Prosecution, presumably using their (first) names is the only thing they could blame IS for! (On the other hand, his ridiculous persistance with a not-guilty plea is the indirect cause of...
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    GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #9

    Thanks for the interesting article! Rearranging "reasonable doubt" to a "doubt that is reasonable": a deliberately dismissive non-answer to the juror? Maybe the judge is saying that it's for the jury to interpret "reasonable"; but surely some expansion would be worthwhile. In the current...

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