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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    Mr. E, for what it's worth, I would estimate that the boy, or boys, who appear in the staged bondage photos were tied up only for, at most, a few minutes while the photos were being shot. If, in fact, these boys were bondage models --- willing or unwilling --- it would have been in the...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "I’ve seen/heard and accounts of what happened to JG shortly after his abduction, he was sold to a guy who took him to Colorado. Maybe he was passed around, because there were again various alleged sightings of JG throughout the country. But the guy who took him to Colorado was this Aquino...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "Are we looking at the same images? In all the photos of the single boy on the bed, some in pajama bottoms, some in sweats, some in full outfits, he definitely does not look as if he's having 'naughty fun.' He looks drugged or terrified, mostly." Yes, we are, Mr E. The child, or children...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "I have a hard time swallowing the whole government-sponsored pedo ring deal, but I don’t think the Gosch case is your typical snatch, rape and kill scenario. My opinion again is that it’s somewhere in the middle, and that somebody had this kid for some time. Maybe not a ring; maybe...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "I’d be far more willing to accept the simple assumption that JG was raped/murdered within hours/days of his disappearance were it not for more compelling evidence suggesting otherwise." Dorca, you clearly regard the "evidence" as compelling, but I am far less persuaded by it. But, then...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    Or, perhaps Johnny simply ran away from home and his parents cannot bring themselves to acknowledge their complicity in a dysfunctional domestic environment.
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "Taylor, I agree in that I would be more worried about my child being victimized by a single perp or by someone they knew than I would worry about a big-bad spooky child sex ring organization." My point, precisely. But, keeping the discussion to logical, realistic themes can, I admit, be...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    Mr E, there is no question that children are being sexually molested --- "abused" is too kind a word --- and that, in some cases, there is a level of organization to the act sometimes involving one, two, or perhaps a few people. This is not in dispute. However, I object to the term "child...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "I'm not willing to dismiss a pedo ring, though. Clearly those do exist. We see them being busted in the news all the time now...Some of it I can wrap my mind around, like pedo rings that snatch kids, fly them around, trade/sell them, etc. Some of it seems too farfetched, like the president and...
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    Eire, your post #12 was a bull's eye. I completely agree with you.
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    Meg's list was very good, too. I wouldn't change a thing she wrote.
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    Some good points were raised here. I especially agree with Kline's comment: "Ive never understood the facination the media has with some cases as opposed to others...They kind of like the ones that smack of the night time soaps..." This is my chief objection to the way the Laci Peterson case...
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    "The only thing that we can do is to work to bring attention to active cases, and hope that we can do some good for the victims of these horrific crimes." Again, I brought up the subject of Westley Allan Dodd because it is probable that he committed other murders for which he was never...
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    Bluecat, the Peterson case should be "old news" now, too, except the media keeps it alive and continues to promote its salacious aspects, even to this day. And, as much as I, too, dislike Nancy Grace and her emotionally-overwrought style of covering stories, I don't think it's accurate to...
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    WA WA - WESTLEY ALAN DODD, pedophile (boy victims), Seattle, 1980's

    It has always irritated me that the media sometimes "hypes" or promotes certain murder cases, while others of perhaps greater significance remain largely ignored by the national press. The case of Westley Allan Dodd, the Pacific Northwest pedophile and murderer of Lee Iseli and brothers...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, W Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What happened? - #2

    "One aspect of the pics that has bothered me: in pictures of consentual adult bondage, there usually is nudity and a level of sexuality involved. Yet these boys are fully clothed (with the one exception of one pic showing the boy shirtless) with nothing overtly sexual about them. I have a hard...
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    IA IA - Johnny Gosch, 12, Des Moines, 5 Sept 1982 - What if no ring / No conspiracy?

    Frankly, Noreen Gosch does not come across to me as credible. Her website often makes bizarre, incredulous claims that make it more akin to a UFO/Bigfoot conspiracy forum than a space truly dedicated to locating her missing son. I find her blatant promotion of "corporate sponsorships" deeply...

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