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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #52

    The judge ordered the audio to be given to defense on 10/22/19. And I don't think this was the first mention of it not being turned over. Still on 12/2, there was still no audio provided to the defense. This is just my opinion, but I don't think the state is just "forgetting" to turn this over...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #52

    This is possible. Plus the new court date shows the case is set for a hearing motion on 12/2. Not a jury trial. Interesting.
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I think someone is talking! Search warrants aren't open ended. LE would need a new warrant to go in. Especially to the extent of a 4-5 day land/water search. JMO, but wowsa, some dam broke! Also, RN, in all likelihood if convicted, is only getting probation. So she doesn't have that much...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I do not think that they drove Chris SR truck from one scene to another. Also, in order for them to get GPS information, there has to be a device or service attached or in the vehicle (cell, GPS on the car, ankle monitor, etc.). I’m not sure how new his truck was, and if it’s movements would...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    Wow! I've done a lot of research. And I understand there was an ongoing custody struggle. What I was asking about was direct information about an "intimidation attack" by Jake on Hanna, or proof of Jake trying to take full custody of Sofia. As Betty P just pointed out, it is not clear to me in...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    Agreed. I’m trying to look at this logically and there is for sure a power and family dynamic. Also, I heard Jake was telling his friends via jail phone when he was first arrested that he was going to be out on bond quickly. So the Wagner’s may be delusional in addition to being savages. All my...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I think we also need to consider that Rita takes care of her own ailing Mother, and that might factor in. Or if Rita’s along with Angela’s cooperation could get the DP removed from AW and Rita probation. That might be a bundle offer, ala American Pickers. JMO
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I know what the point of the notary is, I am just giving a scenario. Comparatively, a notary could commit knowing fraud, I.e. notarizing something they knew to be false, as opposed to notarizing a signature that they believe is a valid signature. I am not saying what you or I may think she...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    Can you give us a link about this alleged intimidation attack, or tell us more about it? I am unfamiliar with this information.
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I think I disagree. I think it could be as simple as AW telling her it was Hanna’s signature and making up a story for why Hanna couldn’t sign it in front of her. For example, she was on bed rest late in the pregnancy. I don’t know that I buy Rita knew about the murders beforehand. (She doesn’t...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    I don’t think there’s a plea offer on the table for Jake. The only way I see an offer for Jake is if the state believes he was somehow manipulated or coerced by the others. Or if he has some diminished capacity due to intellectual limitations or psychological problems. And I don’t think this is...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    Definitely GW4, and perhaps AW. I could be way off here, but I kind of doubt that AW pulled a trigger. So, I think her complicity is less severe, and therefore a plea bargain may be offered to her. The other side of that is how awful an existence in Marysville she would have as a Mother who sold...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

    Actually, many people receive deals when they are guilty -in general plea negotiations, or in exchange for being a witness against their co-defendants. (Think Sammy the Bull.) Think also about how much easier the state's case would be if one of them agreed to testify against the others. I know...
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #50

    Good point. But if I were the prosecutors, I would want Jake to go first because he had the strongest motive. Even Angela and Billy had more motive than GW4.
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    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #50

    "...For his part, in summing up, Berman said prosecutors in capital cases can sometimes offer suspects life in prison as opposed to the death penalty in attempts to save both time and money. He did not offer a concrete opinion as to whether that will happen in the case of the Rhoden murders... "...
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    GUILTY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave , 7 May 2017 *GUILTY OF ABUSE OF CORPSE ONLY* *resentencing 2022* #4

    It was the elder Charlie actually. He wasn't the attorney for all three trials though.
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    GUILTY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave , 7 May 2017 *GUILTY OF ABUSE OF CORPSE ONLY* *resentencing 2022* #4

    But the words she didn’t kill her or burn her also came out of her own mouth.
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    GUILTY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave , 7 May 2017 *GUILTY OF ABUSE OF CORPSE ONLY* *resentencing 2022* #4

    If you all want to read about another interesting Warren County, Ohio case, look up Ryan Widmer. He is rotting in prison, convicted of murdering his wife. In my opinion, there wasn’t enough proof to convict him either. And most of those jurors said they didn’t think he acted remorseful enough...
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    GUILTY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave , 7 May 2017 *GUILTY OF ABUSE OF CORPSE ONLY* *resentencing 2022* #4

    I noticed when the verdict was being read that her hands were cramping, which is indeed a symptom of potassium deficiency.

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