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"Would you pull a cord deeply into your daughter's neck, believing she might dead, to cover-up evidence you just killed your her, accidentally?"
This is semi off-topic... and everyone can take this for what it's worth... which given my post count and history here is perhaps nothing... but I live in Colorado and have met and spoken with Pamela Mackey a few times. I don't remember the exact details as this was a few years ago... but in a conversation that had nothing to do with the JonBenet case (i.e. I didn't ask), we were just discussing public perception and it's importance in cases and whatnot, and she was talking about how frustrating the JonBenet case was because the Ramsey's absolutely had nothing to do with what happened to her. She said it with complete confidence and sincerity, and as I said before, I didn't ask about it at all. That conversation was enough for me to completely throw out the idea that they were involved.
Wings of Light, you've put me in a tough spot, so let me put it this way:
1) If I had a dollar for every time someone close to a killer said they were convinced they were completely innocent, I'd be a rich man.
2) Pamela Mackey is a defense lawyer for the Haddon Law Firm, which the Rs hired. She makes her living convincing people that someone is innocent. Lawyers are the best con artists in existence.
It just doesn't do it for me.
I obviously completely understand where you are coming from. Those points are both often very true.
I don't expect to change anyone's mind or anything, perhaps she was lying, or perhaps the Ramsey's are very convincing themselves.
An attorney would definitely say that whether they believed it or not. I don't think that she would have said it in the circumstances she did if she didn't believe it, though.
Oh... She does spend her living convincing people that her clients are innocent... you have to remember though... she has clients that ARE innocent, and that have been falsely accused/charged with crimes... it happens more than most people think. It's easy for people to bash lawyers (not saying you were), but they very often do 'save' innocent people's lives.
An attorney would definitely say that whether they believed it or not. I don't think that she would have said it in the circumstances she did if she didn't believe it, though.
Oh... She does spend her living convincing people that her clients are innocent... you have to remember though... she has clients that ARE innocent, and that have been falsely accused/charged with crimes... it happens more than most people think. It's easy for people to bash lawyers (not saying you were), but they very often do 'save' innocent people's lives.
But, to also hire a lawyer is tantamount to PROOF of their guilt.
It may happen more often that we think, but it's not that often.
There are those on this forum who believe that parents in the R's position (that is having a child murdered in their home) is reason enough to suspect them of having done it.
But, to also hire a lawyer is tantamount to PROOF of their guilt.
I guess it comes down to your definition of often.
If you can't afford a good attorney, whether you are guilty or innocent, you will probably be convicted.
That doesn't apply here, WOL. The Rs were millionaires who could hire the best legal talent around, a law firm that owns half the state and had business ties with the DA's office. So why bring it up?
I am curious, though, WOL. That video you posted makes a fine argument. But what would you say about a lawyer who sent private eyes to sabotage witnesses?
Statistically, it IS.
Not unsubstantiated. Hunter had personal, social and business relationships with some of the R defense lawyers. If he'd been ethical at all, he'd have recused himself from prosecuting this case.