Ok...found it... Transcript Date
March 7, 2007.
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1 A. Special Agent Ronald Evan was with me at a couple
2 points.
3 Q. And did you have the opportunity to examine other
4 potential debris locations on that day?
5 A. Yes, sir, we did.
6 Q. And what areas -- Did you come to examine an area
7 that's been referred to as the Radandt deer camp?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. And tell us about your examination of that area.
10 A. There were a couple burn barrels there. And we
11 went there with the intent of examining those to
12 see if there were any items that could be of
13 significance. So we went through that and the
14 immediate area around that.
15 Q. And did you find any items of evidentiary
16 significance there?
17 A. As I recall, there was one unburned bone. It
18 looked like a steak bone that was there, but we
19 did take that, just in the possibility that it
20 could be important.
21 Q. Now, was there another location for one of the
22 Radandt Sand and Gravel operation that you
23 examined some debris?
24 A. I don't recall. I believe it was right at the
25 trailer, there was a burn barrel there. And it
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1 was around that area that we were looking.
2 Q. Okay. In terms of your investigation of these
3 areas and items, you indicate you didn't require
4 -- excuse me -- you did recover some men's
5 clothing. If you found anything you thought of
6 significance, who was your contact with the
7 Calumet Sheriff's Office for receipt of any
8 information you determined of evidentiary
9 significance?
10 A. That would be Deputy Riemer.
11 Q. Now, in your examination of the burn barrels, I
12 think you said your first task in this -- Well,
13 let me ask you, did you have an opportunity to
14 investigate or to examine some burn barrels as
15 part of this?
16 A. Yes, on Saturday, the 12th, I believe it was.
17 When I was done at the fire pit at the Avery
18 property, I came back over to the Sheriff's
19 Department and there were several 50 gallon
20 barrels that they asked us to go through.
21 Q. All right. And tell us about those burn barrels.
22 A. Those barrels were here at the Sheriff's
23 Department here in Chilton and Special Agent Evan
24 and I, along with Deputy Riemer, went to an area
25 and Deputy Riemer would produce a 50 gallon
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1 barrel and its contents and we would conduct an
2 examination of it. If we found anything that we
3 suspected would be potential evidentiary value,
4 we separated that from the barrel. The barrels
5 were being retained for evidence. But we
6 separated out things that might have been
7 important and set them aside and gave them
8 directly to Deputy Riemer for preservation.
9 Q. Now, of those barrels, how many of them did you
10 actually find anything that had some potential
11 evidentiary significance?
12 A. I think only one barrel. We recovered some bone
13 fragments at the time.
14 Q. Now, those bone fragments which were recovered,
15 how did those bone fragments compare with the
16 fragments that you found that were sifted from
17 the burn pit itself; was there anything distinct
18 in your mind about the condition of those
19 fragments or the size of those fragments compared
20 to those in the burn pit debris?
21 A. Yes, the fragmentation that I was finding from
22 the burn pit was very small. Much of it was --
23 in some cases was the size of half of your little
24 fingernail, if you will. Most of the bones were
25 very fragmented in there. Where the bones that 1 were recovered from that barrel on Saturday, the
2 burn barrel, they were of larger mass.
3 Q. All right. In your examination of materials from
4 the burn barrel, did you find anything such as
5 rivets, or grommets, or any other articles of
6 clothing?