Found Deceased Australia - Elisa Curry, 43, Aireys Inlet, Melbourne, 30 Sept 2017 #2

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Hello - first time poster so please...be kind! I have come across this site many times before whilst following crimes both in Australia and abroad but this case compelled me to finally register.

My initial reaction is that this case reminds me a lot of Daniel O'Keefe, a young Geelong man who seemingly disappeared without a trace some years ago. He was eventually found deceased, after many unconfirmed sightings, underneath his own home. He had taken his own life and left no indication of intending to do so. Elisa may have seemingly "had it all" from the outside looking in. Yes, she was socialising only hours before her last contact with husband and/ or neighbour/s. But people with depression are adept at putting on a mask and fooling everyone around them that they are fine, even when crumbling on the inside. Yes, she is a mother - but depression doesn't discriminate. Sometimes the burden on your soul outweighs any burden your dependants have on you. And yes, she obviously enjoyed engaging in social debate, however sometimes there simply isn't enough words to describe the pain a person suffering depression feels. I say these things as a mother, as a woman of a similar age to Elisa and with similar interests. But mostly I say this as someone who suffers debilitating depression. One minute you can be coping...and only hours later the world constricts and feels so desolate that the thought of checking out permanently is overwhelmingly inviting. I hope this makes sense - I really just wanted to offer an alternative perspective. The link to Lifeline at the end of some of today's news stories makes me think that this tragically is what the outcome here will be.
 
I don't think she could throw herself over a cliff, the whole area is attuned to tourists and preventing the sillier ones from doing just that... she would have to climb down and kneel over in the water and hold her own head down.. I dunno. That sounds like a lot of work.

Suicide is hard believe in after 6 days of intensive searching... AND considering that she wandered off in the dark, because people are up early down there to catch the waves, nobody saw her at dawn.. of course, we must be in agreement that she is not at home. that she is, in the unforgettable words of the husband.. 'out there.... if you are out there...' then she had to leave on foot, and be in a walking in the dark radius. Bounded on one side by the sea.
 
Hello - first time poster so please...be kind! I have come across this site many times before whilst following crimes both in Australia and abroad but this case compelled me to finally register.

My initial reaction is that this case reminds me a lot of Daniel O'Keefe, a young Geelong man who seemingly disappeared without a trace some years ago. He was eventually found deceased, after many unconfirmed sightings, underneath his own home. He had taken his own life and left no indication of intending to do so. Elisa may have seemingly "had it all" from the outside looking in. Yes, she was socialising only hours before her last contact with husband and/ or neighbour/s. But people with depression are adept at putting on a mask and fooling everyone around them that they are fine, even when crumbling on the inside. Yes, she is a mother - but depression doesn't discriminate. Sometimes the burden on your soul outweighs any burden your dependants have on you. And yes, she obviously enjoyed engaging in social debate, however sometimes there simply isn't enough words to describe the pain a person suffering depression feels. I say these things as a mother, as a woman of a similar age to Elisa and with similar interests. But mostly I say this as someone who suffers debilitating depression. One minute you can be coping...and only hours later the world constricts and feels so desolate that the thought of checking out permanently is overwhelmingly inviting. I hope this makes sense - I really just wanted to offer an alternative perspective. The link to Lifeline at the end of some of today's news stories makes me think that this tragically is what the outcome here will be.

Welcome Scatterbrain. Thank you for sharing. :greetings:
 
If we knew what was said in the discussion with the neighbour at 10pm it would probably shed much light on this.
 
I reckon she would have been found by now unless she jumped....

ETA: One would think that they would bring cadaver dogs in.

Agreed, one would think. I just don't know what to think!
 
Hello - first time poster so please...be kind! I have come across this site many times before whilst following crimes both in Australia and abroad but this case compelled me to finally register.

My initial reaction is that this case reminds me a lot of Daniel O'Keefe, a young Geelong man who seemingly disappeared without a trace some years ago. He was eventually found deceased, after many unconfirmed sightings, underneath his own home. He had taken his own life and left no indication of intending to do so. Elisa may have seemingly "had it all" from the outside looking in. Yes, she was socialising only hours before her last contact with husband and/ or neighbour/s. But people with depression are adept at putting on a mask and fooling everyone around them that they are fine, even when crumbling on the inside. Yes, she is a mother - but depression doesn't discriminate. Sometimes the burden on your soul outweighs any burden your dependants have on you. And yes, she obviously enjoyed engaging in social debate, however sometimes there simply isn't enough words to describe the pain a person suffering depression feels. I say these things as a mother, as a woman of a similar age to Elisa and with similar interests. But mostly I say this as someone who suffers debilitating depression. One minute you can be coping...and only hours later the world constricts and feels so desolate that the thought of checking out permanently is overwhelmingly inviting. I hope this makes sense - I really just wanted to offer an alternative perspective. The link to Lifeline at the end of some of today's news stories makes me think that this tragically is what the outcome here will be.

:welcome3: scatters..... thankyou for the poignant insight.. I had forgotten that strange event.... his poor mother... oddly, I was about to write that I was reminded of the English 'Canoe' man, he and the wife collected the insurance, he was found in Panama etc...

Everything you wrote can be applied to this circumstance , without hesitation...
 
Hi, new member here and I wanted to join because it is such an interesting discussion. I have read all of the previous thread.

I did wonder if Elisa deliberately chose to be there alone because she was intended to harm herself. It does seem odd that someone who struggles with depression and seems to have an ongoing alcohol issue would isolate themselves like that, especially on such a big kind of family day as GF.
Or maybe it's not strange that she would do it but that her desire to do it wouldn't raise red flags for her husband etc. You would think he would want her to always be around other people or close to medical help if needed.

Elisa was drinking that day I think, based on the media reports(or dd I get that wrong?). If so, then obviously her alcoholism was pretty active and not in recovery, so she likely wasn't thinking clearly. Speculating that if she drank a little at the game, it didn't end there.

But the husband's response of saying she was missing at 9am just doesn't sit right with me - she could have been at the shops, at a neighbours, out running. He didn't wait around for her or check with the neighbours? And if it was so troubling that she was not home at that exact moment, I wonder why it was considered a good idea for her to even stay out there alone for the night.

I guess I would have thought that if there were such concerns about her that he would have called her more the previous night or something.
 
If we knew what was said in the discussion with the neighbour at 10pm it would probably shed much light on this.
I did wonder if the female neighbour was concerned about her drinking. Maybe the neighbour knew she was an alcoholic and saw her drinking but didn't want to discuss it in front of the husband because he didn't know that Elisa was an alcoholic.
So neighbour lady comes back for a heart to heart with Elisa about it privately because she's concerned.
 
Hi, new member here and I wanted to join because it is such an interesting discussion. I have read all of the previous thread.

I did wonder if Elisa deliberately chose to be there alone because she was intended to harm herself. It does seem odd that someone who struggles with depression and seems to have an ongoing alcohol issue would isolate themselves like that, especially on such a big kind of family day as GF.
Or maybe it's not strange that she would do it but that her desire to do it wouldn't raise red flags for her husband etc. You would think he would want her to always be around other people or close to medical help if needed.

Elisa was drinking that day I think, based on the media reports(or dd I get that wrong?). If so, then obviously her alcoholism was pretty active and not in recovery, so she likely wasn't thinking clearly. Speculating that if she drank a little at the game, it didn't end there.

But the husband's response of saying she was missing at 9am just doesn't sit right with me - she could have been at the shops, at a neighbours, out running. He didn't wait around for her or check with the neighbours? And if it was so troubling that she was not home at that exact moment, I wonder why it was considered a good idea for her to even stay out there alone for the night.

I guess I would have thought that if there were such concerns about her that he would have called her more the previous night or something.

:welcome: and also... :thumb:... you've pressed my uneasiness button all over again!!.. that 9am call in was too early.. far too early, unless he really knew she was .. you know... 'out there'...... also.. the mobile phone. turned off at around 10..30pm. pitch dark. But.. she isn't home, she hasn't taken a car, so she is on foot somewhere.... with her phone turned off. Usually, that is the last thread to cut... gripped in the hand to the last, so I know it's 'out there' for sure...
 
This could go in the same direction as Tanja Ebert? Missing for 2 months now after husband shoots himself and poor Tanja still not found. Maybe Elisa will never be found?
 
Trooper, I don't know how to quote your former post re female suicides from the last thread............but just wanted to say that I have personally, in my work, had 2 females ( both around mid forties ) suicide or attempt suicide in my care ( both hangings ) .........by bloody shower hoses.........i hope there is never a third!!! I find it very hard to trust mental health patients.............my experience probably goes against the statistics!!
 
The late night run thing is still niggling at me.
 
Trooper, I don't know how to quote your former post re female suicides from the last thread............but just wanted to say that I have personally, in my work, had 2 females ( both around mid forties ) suicide or attempt suicide in my care ( both hangings ) .........by bloody shower hoses.........i hope there is never a third!!! I find it very hard to trust mental health patients.............my experience probably goes against the statistics!!

my god sleuth... the horror.. may I ask, was it their own shower?? at their own home, or did they hire a room somewhere else? or go to someone else's place?... ( that is the only detail I want,.. )...... trusting mental health patients, .. what a fraught area , absolutely no one is a 'textbook-case'..... they write their own..
 
my god sleuth... the horror.. may I ask, was it their own shower?? at their own home, or did they hire a room somewhere else? or go to someone else's place?... ( that is the only detail I want,.. )...... trusting mental health patients, .. what a fraught area , absolutely no one is a 'textbook-case'..... they write their own..

Nope, in a hospital.......
 
Can anyone else confirm - was the whole family already at the beach house prior to the GF, then the husband and 3 kids left the beach house and drove back to Melbourne on Saturday? Or had Elisa come out ahead of them and they remained in the city? I'm unclear whether she had her own car or had come with her family.
 
Can anyone else confirm - was the whole family already at the beach house prior to the GF, then the husband and 3 kids left the beach house and drove back to Melbourne on Saturday? Or had Elisa come out ahead of them and they remained in the city? I'm unclear whether she had her own car or had come with her family.

can't confirm, but all the photos show 2 vehicles parked in the driveway of the holiday home
 
Nope, in a hospital.......

sorry, ... truly.. truly Sleuthy. sorry... . from my experience, the 2-waytrust has an inbuilt flaw in that those I know under mental health treatment, and medication , don't trust themselves.. one begs me not to trust him, and I agree wholeheartedly not to, under any circumstances. I am wondering if your patients were residents ? that is 'at home' in hospital or sudden admissions?
 
:welcome: and also... :thumb:... you've pressed my uneasiness button all over again!!.. that 9am call in was too early.. far too early, unless he really knew she was .. you know... 'out there'...... also.. the mobile phone. turned off at around 10..30pm. pitch dark. But.. she isn't home, she hasn't taken a car, so she is on foot somewhere.... with her phone turned off. Usually, that is the last thread to cut... gripped in the hand to the last, so I know it's 'out there' for sure...

Did he report her missing at 9am? I don't think I've seen what time he made the call.
 
Did he report her missing at 9am? I don't think I've seen what time he made the call.
That's true, it's not clear what time after 9am he determined that she was missing and not just out. This is how it is described in the Age:
Sunday 9am: Mr Curry and the couple's three children return to the holiday home to find Ms Curry missing.
 
Elisa was drinking that day I think, based on the media reports(or dd I get that wrong?). If so, then obviously her alcoholism was pretty active and not in recovery, so she likely wasn't thinking clearly. Speculating that if she drank a little at the game, it didn't end there.

But the husband's response of saying she was missing at 9am just doesn't sit right with me - she could have been at the shops, at a neighbours, out running. He didn't wait around for her or check with the neighbours? And if it was so troubling that she was not home at that exact moment, I wonder why it was considered a good idea for her to even stay out there alone for the night.

I guess I would have thought that if there were such concerns about her that he would have called her more the previous night or something.

I did wonder if the female neighbour was concerned about her drinking. Maybe the neighbour knew she was an alcoholic and saw her drinking but didn't want to discuss it in front of the husband because he didn't know that Elisa was an alcoholic.
So neighbour lady comes back for a heart to heart with Elisa about it privately because she's concerned.

Hi mdcmdc
Welcome :)
And no you're not mistaken, it has been reported Elisa drank alcohol on Saturday. The following:
"Asked if Ms Curry had been intoxicated after drinking on Saturday afternoon with other neighbours, police said: “She had been drinking - to what degree I don’t know.”
Was in this article: http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...e/news-story/71c5103d1c95652065d7173cb7b5b467
So we know she was "reported to be an alcoholic"
We know she drank on Saturday.
If she was in recovery and had been sober for a long time, but decided to have a few drinks on Sat THAT would be a cause for concern for both the neighbour and the husband.
So might explain the late night personal issue visit and also might explain why her husband reported her missing almost immediately on Sunday morning (apparently - I don't think we have a confirmed time of his missing report, but we know a large search commenced Sunday soon after her husband arrived at 9am to find her gone, which is early for a large search).
If this is the case though I find it odd that early reports said "no known medical conditions" or similar. I will try to find a link if I can and add it. Usually the early reports say "we are concerned for her welfare due to a medical condition"...
Edit to add: I was mistaken: the police report doesnt say "no known medical conditions", but the standard phrase "we are concerned for her welfare due to a medical condition" is absent:
https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/police-search-for-elisa-curry
 
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