17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #25

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That case is beyond sickening, David James' wife was interviewed and I cried right along with her, it is absolutely heartbreaking. This soldier, who lived through tours of duty, comes home and gets gunned down for protecting kids in the neighborhood. His young daughter witnessed it all, they showed her on tv when she was testifying.

As similar as these two cases, the one difference is that Dooley was arrested quickly, iirc, it was within 48 hours.

JMHO

He was arrested within 48 hrs IIRC because witnesses said he went home to get his gun and came back to the park.
 
As stated in the preliminary court document, the post was performed by Dr. Bao (Shiping Bao, M.D, Associate Medical Examiner), who works out of District 7. http://volusia.org/medicalexaminer/
:moo::moo::moo: Dr. Bao was either the M.D. on call that weekend & "caught" the case OR was assigned the case in the a.m. :moo::moo::moo: (FYI: a full forensic post mortem examination requires the assistance of MORE than just the pathologist SO from my information regarding this subject, MOST (again, not speaking for ALL ME offices and again, not speaking about ALL ME cases!) OCMEs request/demand/suggest that one wait until the scheduled support staff are present.

Actual inner working of ANY medical examiner's office are specific to the jurisdiction (and chief ME, too!) and the link above DOES make the District 7/24 functioning wicked transparent. (IMHO, the information presented and format used is just awesome!):woohoo:

all JMO, JME

Thanks JoyPath for your always very helpful posts!!! It's awesome to have you here.
 
I've been thinking about this. I wonder if Trayvon fell on top of GZ and GZ had to slide out from under Trayvon, but if that is how it happened wouldn't
GZ have blood on his clothes ?? or did Trayvon after being shot just fall on the ground, not even touching GZ, but then if that is how it happened why would GZ be on top of Trayon, was GZ sitting on Trayvon's back???

Yes, 2 eyewitnesses have stated that GZ was straddling Trayvon's back.
 
Part of the Anderson Cooper/Frank Taaffe interview is on Anderson's site.
http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/04/13/frank-taaffe-on-george-zimmerman-he-was-a-model-neighbor/

My favorite FT interview is the one where he explains why it made sense for GZ to do racial profiling. Such a stupid, stupid man. JVM would not let him get that garbage out, but because he made the rounds, he eventually found someone (Soledad O'Brien) that let him spout freely. http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/...by-black-males-meant-everyone-was-suspicious/

Methinks FT is unemployed, the only job description I have ever seen for him is a marketing representative that works from home. He's probably one of those annoying people that sends me emails all day, asking if I want to buy their mailing lists.

Playing the GZ voicemail for the media was another brilliant move --- let everyone know that your "good friend" calls you Mr. Taaffe and expressed his condolences for your sons death --- three years prior. Genius.
 
Yes, 2 eyewitnesses have stated that GZ was straddling Trayvon's back.

If memory serves me right, wern't they the two that live at the very address SFD said the body was in the back yard of?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc4-famjw1M"]Trayvon Martin's Body Location 2 Per Sanford Fire and Rescue - YouTube[/ame]

An address whose back yard also falls with in the range stated on the police report as the body's location?

TMBodyLocation2-1.png


A body location that's 100 feet from where the Zimmerman camp says Trayvon brutally beat George at?

elephant-in-the-room-1-1.jpg

Somehow this elephant keeps showing up. Maybe the City Manager of Sanford can put out another press release explaining how they bought off on this one.
 
Part of the Anderson Cooper/Frank Taaffe interview is on Anderson's site.
http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/04/13/frank-taaffe-on-george-zimmerman-he-was-a-model-neighbor/

My favorite FT interview is the one where he explains why it made sense for GZ to do racial profiling. Such a stupid, stupid man. JVM would not let him get that garbage out, but because he made the rounds, he eventually found someone (Soledad O'Brien) that let him spout freely. http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/...by-black-males-meant-everyone-was-suspicious/

Methinks FT is unemployed, the only job description I have ever seen for him is a marketing representative that works from home. He's probably one of those annoying people that sends me emails all day, asking if I want to buy their mailing lists.

Playing the GZ voicemail for the media was another brilliant move --- let everyone know that your "good friend" calls you Mr. Taaffe and expressed his condolences for your sons death --- three years prior. Genius.

JMO IMO MOO

I think, in my opinion, FT uses words to describe himself, he seems to have a need for the world to see GZ is just like him attitude. He is a harmless watch dog for neighborhood and if you plant corn you get corn type of guy. :what:

JMO IMO MOO

:truce:
 
Yes, 2 eyewitnesses have stated that GZ was straddling Trayvon's back.

So after GZ shot Trayvon, Trayvon fell forward and then GZ walked around Trayvon laying on the ground on straddled Trayvon. So I wonder if Trayvon was still alive, and GZ got on Trayvon's back to keep him (Trayvon) from getting up? I wonder how long GZ sat on Trayvons back?
 
So after GZ shot Trayvon, Trayvon fell forward and then GZ walked around Trayvon laying on the ground on straddled Trayvon. So I wonder if Trayvon was still alive, and GZ got on Trayvon's back to keep him (Trayvon) from getting up? I wonder how long GZ sat on Trayvons back?

IIRC the witnesses did not say GZ was sitting on TM; he was standing over him with a foot on either side of him and his hands on TM's back.
 
So after GZ shot Trayvon, Trayvon fell forward and then GZ walked around Trayvon laying on the ground on straddled Trayvon. So I wonder if Trayvon was still alive, and GZ got on Trayvon's back to keep him (Trayvon) from getting up? I wonder how long GZ sat on Trayvons back?

Wasn't there a witness that said they saw GZ walking away from TM, with his hand on his head? When CNN reconstructs the timeline, that make it seem like the officer arrived within a minute of the shot being heard.
 
Wasn't there a witness that said they saw GZ walking away from TM, with his hand on his head? When CNN reconstructs the timeline, that make it seem like the officer arrived within a minute of the shot being heard.

IIRC the witness said GZ was holding his hands to his head, but not walking away.
 
IIRC the witness said GZ was holding his hands to his head, but not walking away.

So, his hands were on TM's back, then he put them on his head? Or is it two different witnesses (one saying hand on the back, one saying hand on the head)?
 
So, his hands were on TM's back, then he put them on his head? Or is it two different witnesses (one saying hand on the back, one saying hand on the head)?

My interpretation was that his hands were on TM's back, then he put them on his head. I don't have time right now to look for a link, but I can later if someone doesn't beat me to it.
 
So GZ had one foot on one side and another foot on the other side bending over at the waist with his hands on Trayvons back. And then GZ stood up, walked away from Trayvon and placed his (GZ) on his own head?
 
Do you have a link for that? I am looking for news articles about this case to help me understand more about SYG and the only really detailed one I found was here and it doesn't mention him going home and coming back.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1206308.ece


Here's a link to the thread here on Websleuths. It would help if people read about this case, and see what the pros is up against on the Trayvon' case.

You'll see some similarities between the father murdered in front of his 8 year old and what happened to Trayvon. :(

hth
fran

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115558&highlight=dooley

Father murdered in front of 8 year old daughter for standing up for skateboarders
 
So GZ had one foot on one side and another foot on the other side bending over at the waist with his hands on Trayvons back. And then GZ stood up, walked away from Trayvon and placed his (GZ) on his own head?

Yes, that was my interpretation of what the witness said.
 
So, his hands were on TM's back, then he put them on his head? Or is it two different witnesses (one saying hand on the back, one saying hand on the head)?

IIRC same witness. She saw him straddled over Trayvon with his hand on Trayvons back, spoke twice to him before gaining his attention at which time he moved putting his hands on his head and told her to call 911.

And again, thats if I'm remembering correctly. I'm having connection speed issues and can't pull anything up right now.
 
911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

ZIMMERMAN: When the dispatcher said we know longer need you to do that, and George acknowledged OK. He no longer knew where Trayvon was. So he continued walking down the sidewalk directly in front of him to the next street to get an address. He got an address.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hanni...-trayvon-martin-shooting?page=2#ixzz1sEJnZc77

911 dispatcher:

Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

Zimmerman:

Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

But...but...I thought you.........

He's back again:

elephant-in-the-room-1-1.jpg
 
As stated in the preliminary court document, the post was performed by Dr. Bao (Shiping Bao, M.D, Associate Medical Examiner), who works out of District 7. http://volusia.org/medicalexaminer/
:moo::moo::moo: Dr. Bao was either the M.D. on call that weekend & "caught" the case OR was assigned the case in the a.m. :moo::moo::moo: (FYI: a full forensic post mortem examination requires the assistance of MORE than just the pathologist SO from my information regarding this subject, MOST (again, not speaking for ALL ME offices and again, not speaking about ALL ME cases!) OCMEs request/demand/suggest that one wait until the scheduled support staff are present.

Actual inner working of ANY medical examiner's office are specific to the jurisdiction (and chief ME, too!) and the link above DOES make the District 7/24 functioning wicked transparent. (IMHO, the information presented and format used is just awesome!):woohoo:

all JMO, JME

Hope LE followed "E" under Duties of Law Enforcement, but if they didn't, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
 
Part of the Anderson Cooper/Frank Taaffe interview is on Anderson's site.
http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/04/13/frank-taaffe-on-george-zimmerman-he-was-a-model-neighbor/

My favorite FT interview is the one where he explains why it made sense for GZ to do racial profiling. Such a stupid, stupid man. JVM would not let him get that garbage out, but because he made the rounds, he eventually found someone (Soledad O'Brien) that let him spout freely. http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/...by-black-males-meant-everyone-was-suspicious/

Methinks FT is unemployed, the only job description I have ever seen for him is a marketing representative that works from home. He's probably one of those annoying people that sends me emails all day, asking if I want to buy their mailing lists.

Playing the GZ voicemail for the media was another brilliant move --- let everyone know that your "good friend" calls you Mr. Taaffe and expressed his condolences for your sons death --- three years prior. Genius.

From A. Cooper last week - interview snippets with Frank Taaffe. I put this on the Media Links thread also. I looked for a transcript but couldn't find one.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1LCZ5RZHc]Frank Taaffe: George was a Model Neighbor[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuc6CDsDDBk"]Frank Taaffe Believes George Zimmerman Will Be 'Exonerated' - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrvlyf8b1EE"]Frank Taaffe Explains Why He Supports Zimmerman - YouTube[/ame]
 
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