Identified! AL - Bibb Co, WhtMal UP13483, 14-17, MVA/hitchhiker, tattoo: RY + LOVE Mar'61 - Daniel Armantrout

[Alleykins]

Never seen this image before...View attachment 266006

Great find.
Definitely clears up the tattoo mystery.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

This feels like one of those cases that are only going to be solved with genetic genealogy, and I haven't seen any news on that.

 

[coffeeandacig]

Bibb County John Doe's Namus page was updated in the past couple of weeks. Anyone know what information was updated?
March 27th will be the 60th Anniversary of his death. His contemporaries are now in their 70's...



For his upcoming anniversary, I drew frontal views based on his post-mortem photos.

 

[stringofpurls]

Great find.
Definitely clears up the tattoo mystery.

To me, it doesn't look like a tattoo. More like scarring from carving it into his arm.

 

[Tabirey]

To me, it doesn't look like a tattoo. More like scarring from carving it into his arm.

Yep, scarification. From what I can tell, there was no ink used at all.

 

[Tabirey]

@othram , I know you've taken on a lot of cases lately, but what do you think about this one?

 

[othram]

@othram , I know you've taken on a lot of cases lately, but what do you think about this one?

We will have a case manager reach out. Thank you for sharing. Also, @coffeeandacig is a very talented artist! Great image.

 

[Tabirey]

We will have a case manager reach out. Thank you for sharing. Also, @coffeeandacig is a very talented artist! Great image.

Wonderful! Ty! And I agree, @coffeeandacig is very talented!

 

[coffeeandacig]

@othram and @Tabirey Thank you both so much for the lovely compliments! As with all my drawings, I just hope it can help a wee bit and I'm glad to do it!

So glad to hear that there is a renewed interest in finding this boy's name. 60 years is sooo long ago...
I sincerely hope you're successful @othram in your pursuit!!!

 

[Yokota-Red]

Post mortem pic and photos of the 3 boys (names removed just in case)

I think the boy in the 3rd photo looks like him, especially the lips!

 

[sonz82]

I think the boy in the 3rd photo looks like him, especially the lips!

He does, but its unlikely him, they are presumed drowned at sea. (Unless the theory that they ran away is correct)

 

[vermontaigne]

Hm. Robert would fit an R + Y tattoo, too.

What if that + sign is for AND and it's the name RANDY?

Nope. I looked at it later in the thread, and it's definitely RY+LOVE

 

[ntt1]

It seems that Colleen Fitzpatrick has taken on this case, she discusses it a bit at the beginning of this video.

 

[Alleykins]

This is great news.

 

[coffeeandacig]

This is great news.

Looks like she's been working to build this case for a bit. Hope this year finally gives him his name back!

 

[madamx]

I also found out that the driver of the vehicle, James White, was killed months later in a bad auto accident.

Oh wow..that is so creepy!

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Oh wow..that is so creepy!

Creepy yes, perhaps a coincidence or maybe he was just not a very good driver.

Here's something else creepy. I just started watching Carnival of Souls. A cult horror flick filmed in Kansas and Utah in late 1962, it begins with a car going through a bridge's wooden railing and into a muddy river. The sole survivor becomes the central character. IMDB says the movie was inspired by a Twilight Zone episode "The Hitch-hiker", but given that info about BCJD was distributed nationwide the previous year (according to news articles), you have to wonder if he was part of the inspiration too.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Funny I always thought he looked like Eddie Munster... but that is just me.

Awesome. I made the same comparison tonight on Reddit. Then I came here to check if there was a thread devoted to this case. As soon as I saw your avatar early in the thread I was confident you had already made the family connection.

This will always be the Eddie Munster case to me, if only due to that early sketch artist.

In looking at the post mortems I saw a young Rickie Fowler

 

[madamx]

Awesome. I made the same comparison tonight on Reddit. Then I came here to check if there was a thread devoted to this case. As soon as I saw your avatar early in the thread I was confident you had already made the family connection.

This will always be the Eddie Munster case to me, if only due to that early sketch artist.

In looking at the post mortems I saw a young Rickie Fowler

Omg ... thank you I needed this laugh this morning ha! Yes he will Always be Eddie Munster to me too! Ha!

 

[proctorelites]

This link has a lot more information on pages 17 and 18, including clearer post-mortem pics and a pic of the 'tattoo' on his arm. It definitely says "RY + LOVE" and looks more like scratch marks to me.

If you enter page 17 and scroll to page 18) of all this UID's pictures, THESE are most helpful. I actually captured a screenshot just in case. These are post morten after he'd been cleaned up. They are very clear. I had a totally different idea of what he looked like BEFORE these FBI photos.
The 1 newspaper photo floating around doesn't look like this UID for some reason IMO, maybe its angle or newspaper fade etc. I actually had to read the fbi article to make sure it was the same UID and it is him.
THANK YOU @PropaneYeeter!