AL AL - Brittney Wood, 19, Mobile, 31 May 2012 - # 8
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Gotta run, dinner & movie w/ hubby & kids. Have a nice night everyone.
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To clarify (sorry y'all) I meant "who told the media first about BW's gun". But I do also want to know who told LE first. Basically, where did this detail come from.
i feel like I'm back in marching band with all the drumming going on.
i feel like I'm back in marching band with all the drumming going on.
I remember that Zeaux told us about the gun in the beginning -- it was lightweight -- a girly gun -- with only one or two bullets in it. Not even the most effective gun with which to commit suicide. Donnie lingered for several days, IIRC.
Oh? :thud:
Then nevermind all that quiet, inconspicuous drum-rolling I did today! :giggle:
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No, he wouldn't and this dr. is just one of many that are known to be nothing more than drug distributors around here. Many. These doctors/pain clinics do not have hospital privileges at any local hospitals, some earned their medical degree from outside of the U.S. and all of them have a policy that you MUST be seen every 30 days - payment is due that day- to receive a refill of medication. That is not a common practice with legit doctors, even when prescribing highly controlled narcotics the legit docs will not require you to be seen every month, but they will require you to be seen every other or once every 3 months to have meds refilled and they always always drug test their patients. None of the shady pain clinics do drug testing, and every one of these pain clinics have a packed waiting room every single day. Unfortunately I know this because I used to be in them, but I don't think I've made my past any secret around here.
Btw, the reason I was asking about FL is because it is well known by dealers and users that FL is the only state in the US that does not keep records on Schedule II controlled substance Rx's that are written in the huge amount of pain clinics there, and they do not have a computerized insurance 'tracking' system; meaning for instance, here in Alabama if I were to go doc shopping and acquire 2 RX's for narcotics and I went to CVS and filled the first one, I can't just go across the Walgreens and fill another one. They will see that I just filled one RX that day even if it was at a different pharmacy, best case scenario for me is they refuse to fill it, worst case they will stall me while they tell me they are filling it and instead call the police and I'll be arrested. That is not the case in FL as there is no system integrating pharmacies and insurance companies, much less patient i.d. by drivers licensee or social security number like they have to some degree and in some form or fashion inn every other state. In fact, there is a documentary about the huge number of people from out of state that come to FL every month to acquire Oxy to take back to their state to sell. There are so many that at least one airline has 'redeye' flights from unlikely places like Fayetteville WV. to Miami for cheap cheap cheap. LE calls these flights 'oxy express' flights. I must add though that this is how it was the last I know of, but there where many people working to implement a new system in FL, and they certainly may have and I just am unaware of the change.
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QUOTE=SeeingForThe1stTime;9566888]I don't know....I'm not so sure it would be that easy to hide. Especially with one bust in the family already. LE has cracked down even harder than normal on the purchase of pseudo-ephedrine in the last few years, so much so that a lot of the "immediate use/small time" mobile type cooks get busted just from their efforts to acquire that alone. Out in these rural areas they've already pried all the reflectors off the roads for the phosphorous. So a lot of the bottom of barrel ingredients are not as readily available as they were several years ago when we saw a lot more mobile busts down here. BUT that doesn't mean they weren't involved in the cooking or distribution on a larger level than mobile. Around here (not sure if you're local) LE is very much on top of the meth situation, to the point I'm willing to say that very few people that are deeply involved (or maybe even not so deeply) are off LE's radar. They have deeply implanted narcs in this meth world and they work with the bail bonds guys to track who is associating with who and they surveil the most well known players. All I'm saying is that I'd be surprised that if it's connected to a meth operation that LE wouldn't have a much better lead on Brittney. IF she is hiding, but not necessarily if she was killed by one of them. But then again at the end of day drugs are drugs and being involved in that lifestyle to any degree puts a person at heightened risk for all manner of unholy things happening to them.
(BBM) I do want to ask you though, just out of curiosity, why do you think selling Oxy wouldn't put them in much danger? My information leads me to the exact opposite conclusion, in fact, I believe dealing Oxy is just as dangerous, as far as the people and more so the money than it would be with meth.
Speaking again of Oxy, does anyone know if DH or Brittney traveled into Florida on a routine basis? Not that they would have had to, there are several Dr's./Pain clinics right nearby DH that 'specialize' in writing Oxy and other opiate Rx's and people in the drug culture here all know exactly where to go to get what. BUT, it might point in a direction if either of them were going into Florida to acquire some of these Rx's.
(BBM) I kind of hate to say this, and I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Brittney, but one thing that may be clouding our (my) vision in this case may be that so many us (I) feel such a deep sympathy for her and the seemingly unfair hand life dealt her, and justifiably so. In doing so we (I) may be painting an unrealistic picture of her in our (my) minds. The fact is, she's a real person with very real faults, flaws and issues, who has been raised, for the most part, outside of her fathers family, without the benefit of solid role models. In truth she really wasn't all that innocent, and may in fact have been involved in multiple shady things. Does that mean she deserved to have bad things happen to her? Absolutely not! Does that mean we shouldn't acknowledge that she deserved better in life and that she is a beautiful soul with whom we are all fundamentally connected to? Absolutely not! It does, however, mean that if we're looking for a different person then we aren't going to find Brittney.[/QUOTE]
Upthread there was mention that the pills they were selling wouldn't bring in very much money, and that they also were struggling with money. I need to go re-read what was said but don't have the time right now, but what I recall reading was that DH got a couple of scripts each month, and it wasn't a big time pill selling operation. I think selling ANYTHING illegally can get you into trouble. A girl here was shot and killed trying to buy weed because it was the only thing that helped her manic depression. So I don't think that selling Oxys, etc., is not a dangerous thing, but meth manufacturing is a much scarier thing to be involved in.
I feel the same way that you do about the second part that I bolded...many times regular people are turned into saints and angels when they vanish/die...you're right that we need to be realistic about all of this.
(BBM) I do want to ask you though, just out of curiosity, why do you think selling Oxy wouldn't put them in much danger? My information leads me to the exact opposite conclusion, in fact, I believe dealing Oxy is just as dangerous, as far as the people and more so the money than it would be with meth.
Speaking again of Oxy, does anyone know if DH or Brittney traveled into Florida on a routine basis? Not that they would have had to, there are several Dr's./Pain clinics right nearby DH that 'specialize' in writing Oxy and other opiate Rx's and people in the drug culture here all know exactly where to go to get what. BUT, it might point in a direction if either of them were going into Florida to acquire some of these Rx's.
(BBM) I kind of hate to say this, and I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Brittney, but one thing that may be clouding our (my) vision in this case may be that so many us (I) feel such a deep sympathy for her and the seemingly unfair hand life dealt her, and justifiably so. In doing so we (I) may be painting an unrealistic picture of her in our (my) minds. The fact is, she's a real person with very real faults, flaws and issues, who has been raised, for the most part, outside of her fathers family, without the benefit of solid role models. In truth she really wasn't all that innocent, and may in fact have been involved in multiple shady things. Does that mean she deserved to have bad things happen to her? Absolutely not! Does that mean we shouldn't acknowledge that she deserved better in life and that she is a beautiful soul with whom we are all fundamentally connected to? Absolutely not! It does, however, mean that if we're looking for a different person then we aren't going to find Brittney.[/QUOTE]
Upthread there was mention that the pills they were selling wouldn't bring in very much money, and that they also were struggling with money. I need to go re-read what was said but don't have the time right now, but what I recall reading was that DH got a couple of scripts each month, and it wasn't a big time pill selling operation. I think selling ANYTHING illegally can get you into trouble. A girl here was shot and killed trying to buy weed because it was the only thing that helped her manic depression. So I don't think that selling Oxys, etc., is not a dangerous thing, but meth manufacturing is a much scarier thing to be involved in.
I feel the same way that you do about the second part that I bolded...many times regular people are turned into saints and angels when they vanish/die...you're right that we need to be realistic about all of this.
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Pain clinics are pretty hardcore -- they test you regularly to make sure that you're taking the correct dosage. And down here, there's a definite circle of "Good Ole Boy" doctors who will gladly hand you a script for anything your heart desires.
I think Chessie was the first one to bring up a gun, am I right?
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The "two bullets" thing always struck me as very strange. Why put emphasis on that, Chessie?
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I'm aware of the testing, even GP's are doing so now (more so if the patient is on medicare or medicaid). It's to make sure the patient is taking their meds and not selling them.
I think Chessie is who brought it up to the media, I'm just wondering if she's who told others or if she was told 2nd hand by someone (wendy).
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Who sits around with their teen daughter discussing how many bullets are in her gun? Anyone else having a hard time with that?
Who sits around with their teen daughter discussing how many bullets are in her gun? Anyone else having a hard time with that?
I continue to have a very hard time with this whole mess. Time has not lessened that feeling almost 13 months later. I feel so bad for Payton and Stephanie and Wallace, especially. The rest need to be locked up forever, IMO.
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Hi y'all ~ Steph asked me to let you all know she has Payton this weekend, and will be back tomorrow!
*Lash*
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Who sits around with their teen daughter discussing how many bullets are in her gun? Anyone else having a hard time with that?
In my opinion, someone who chose to be a friend to their daughter instead of a mother. I don't have a hard time with it because I believe Chessie's relationship with Britt was dysfunctional and Chessie was an enabler. I believe Chessie used her 3 oldest children to help aid in her own drugs habits. Whether it was pot or pills. I most certainly do not agree with it, but I have come to understand this was not a healthy mother/daughter relationship by any means.
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Hope Steph & Wally have a fantastic weekend with P! Xoxox!
I'm always thinking of Brittney. It's not hard for me to see why she would want to carry a gun. I figure from before the age of 9, she needed it to protect herself from her own family. It kills me what she's had to endure. I can't imagine what her brain has processed in the past 10-11 yrs of her short life. I figure once Brittney spoke up about gma's boyfriend, she learned quickly who was on her side & prolly nevr evr talked to an "outsider" again. I picture cw not ever sending Brittney to anything after she spoke out about her abuse. Poor Brittney knew that the people she should be able to count on to keep her safe, would & did throw her to the wolves. Why would'nt she find a little comfort in a big protective (compared to the rest of her family) uncle who adored her? Why would'nt she self medicate? I feel like i should medicate myself before reading about the "sex ring" that not only shows what the males in that family are made of but look at the females. How could any female in that family evr think there is life beyond what they are shown. Their mothers were abused, their mothers self medicate, their mothers did not/have not picked them up & ran like hell away from this. Their mothers chose to "disappear" their precieved "competition" & the "golden nugget" yea that was the smirk on wwh's face. Can you imagine what wendy's daughters feel like? Imo wendy did'nt participate in "disappearing" Brittney & "helping" dh kill himself to show her girls that she is protecting them. She could've come out right away & said "i don't care that dh is dead, look what he did to these girls" nope she got charged. She took care of "her" problem not to protect her children but herself & other participating family members. Imo this was planned for maximum cover up. I bet alot was scrubbed & burned & destroyed & discussed. I bet donnie thought he was part of the plan, he just did'nt know til they hit him w/ the .25, that he was part of their solution. (did they use that tiny bullet, knowing it might not do the job right away.it almost seems like a cruel joke to use such a small caliber on such a large head.i think it had more to do w/ them saying it was Brittney's gun. But dang.i'm half donnies size & i sure would'nt count on that small bullet to do the job effectivly.imo)
Can anyone tell me whose next up in court for the sex charges?
I'd also like to slap rsw a lil bit for once again bringing geocacheing into a skeezy scary light. What i had once enjoyed is now just to scary to do alone. Another great hobby gone the way hiking alone has been halted. I blame stopping hiking on gary hilton but this w/ rsw & geocaching is like the 3rd case i"ve followed where main players are active in playing/hiding geocaches.
Peace be w/ you all today.
Can anyone tell me whose next up in court for the sex charges?
I'd also like to slap rsw a lil bit for once again bringing geocacheing into a skeezy scary light. What i had once enjoyed is now just to scary to do alone. Another great hobby gone the way hiking alone has been halted. I blame stopping hiking on gary hilton but this w/ rsw & geocaching is like the 3rd case i"ve followed where main players are active in playing/hiding geocaches.
Peace be w/ you all today.
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I agree. Wally really stepped up to the plate bigtime and Steph has a good head on her shoulders... Both have been there from the beginning and still continue to search for Brittney. They both care deeply and it shows in everything they do.
That makes me sad & happy at the same time. I dont know Brittney but i feel so much for her that looking/playing with her little girl would bring so much comfort. But then the reality sets in and tears would flow for what her girl will nevr know/feel/see of her mama.
My heart is w/ them today.
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Gosh, I really hope we find out the name of Donnie's doctor. Since Steph's post its all I've been thinking about.
Also wondering, is it possible Donnie had others obtain & fill prescriptions for him to sell?
Also wondering, is it possible Donnie had others obtain & fill prescriptions for him to sell?
Yea no doubt everyone of the charged have some sort of ailment that needs medictaing. I know a family where mom, mom's boyfriend,.mom's sister & 3 young adult children 6 in 1 family get scripts. The extra needed is gotten off the street from dealers.(lots of pills needed if each of the 6 needs 10 a day to maintain) The youngest girl has been arrested for heroin. Mom would rather house her to keep getting her own supply than help her get clean.
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