Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019 #4

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  1. cpeacock1

    cpeacock1 Well-Known Member

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    The microscopic examination of tissues takes approximately 2 days for completeness. The toxicology report 4-6 weeks.
    In an autopsy there is a gross examination. This is where the pathologist describes body, weighs organs, looks for any type of injury, etc. The microscopic examination is just what is sounds like. Slices of tissue are examined under a microscope.
     


  2. rickcross

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    I don't think this news really means anything. The corpse was old, so results might not be clear cut. Being as PH did have a drug problem at one time, it only makes sense that the coroner would wait for toxicology tests. For instance, say a body has a bullet hole in the head. It would be easy to say that's how the person died, but what if you run toxicology tests and a month later you find the person had enough cocaine in them to kill an elephant? Now the question becomes a little more complicated. Kind of an extreme example, but you get what I'm saying.
     
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    True, also are you referring to a certain celebrity death?
     
  4. proctorelites

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    Yes! I am 6+ years out. I finally moved 8+ hours away & stayed there for years & never speak to those ppl. Never will again either. I do know the reality. Its a very DRASTIC and expensive measure for some, however. Solemn is a very good description of the process, pain would be too lol I wont even entertain the idea I could sit on a mountain of it and be unphased, that is very dangerous thinking, for me anyway, probably for most.

    I choose not to go to parties or bars, which means my circle of friends is almost nil 6+ years out. I cannot imagine not socializing more in my 20's. So IMOO, Paighton did have a long road ahead but it does sound like she was on her way to being clean, if she wasn't already. I believe she wanted that anyway. In my experience, relapse was part of getting to the "sober forever" part but moving away for a long time & ending all contact w/ those ppl was paramount. You are correct there.

    If relapse and OD happend in this case I want to know it was not used as a weapon against Paighton or in defense of their actions whoever they are.

    Also, Paughton was so much more than this. I think that is important for ppl to understand. Not that I knew her but I do. She is all of us. And she was dearly loved.
     
  5. glynngoble

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    I agree 100% rickcross! LE needs to do everything right regardless of whether it was an OD (because people may be charged for various things) or outright murder (because people will be charged.) Advising the public is probably not even on their To Do List. The family and the DA are the only people they need to inform before everything is complete. But dang it sure is a long wait.
     
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  6. margarita25

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    So, it has not been mentioned then if any of her personal items have been found? A common pattern I’ve seen is perp’s throwing stuff along the side of the road, sometimes within a couple miles of the disposal site, but they easily could have also dumped stuff in a dumpster, off a bridge...did they leave any of her personal items at the recovery site..

    They took the time to conceal/bury her. They didn’t want her found, or at least anytime soon. This obviously means someone has something to hide. This could be because they supplied the drugs, or because they killed her intentionally. I’ll be anxiously awaiting the test results, with everyone else.

    Her poor family.
     
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  7. Van Helsing

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    Did autopsy give approximate date of death? If that could have been addressed in the autopsy report but wasn't, it should raise serious question about B'ham LE. If the approximate date of death was after 12/20-12/21, I think kidnapping/murder is most probable. I'm no expert, but from from my limited knowledge it seems that the state-of-the-art is advanced enough to be pretty accurate on a deceased body. It seems like this is a critical data point and they should have brought in an expert if they were not competent enough in this to do it themselves.
     
  8. margarita25

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    Does anyone know if Paighton smoked cigarettes? Do they allow smoking in the bar, or does one have to walk outside?
     
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  9. katydid23

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    Even if no drugs show up in her system, that wouldn't mean she wasn't lured out of the bar with the promise of getting high that night....just saying....
     
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  10. ReillyElizabeth

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    I don't know if Paighton smoked, but smoking is not allowed in public places like bars in Birmingham. She would have had to go outside.
     
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    Welcome to Websleuths Jlay22!

    I remember my very first post ( 7 years ago) was removed because I transgressed the TOS!

    Don’t be put off by the fact your post was snipped.....you’ll soon get the hang of it.

    The moderators here do a good job & the rules regarding ( for example) rumour/hearsay are what sets Websleuths apart from other online forums.
     
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    Sorry if this has been posted - My heart is saying she didn’t relapse.

     
  14. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    When I watch that, it makes me somewhat question her sobriety. I see a fragile, uncertain soul, who is trying her hardest, but isn't quite there yet. JMO
     
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    The sheriff’s office added, “On Thursday January 2, 2020 information developed by investigators working the missing persons case of 29 year old Paighton Houston led them to a home on Chapel Drive in Hueytown. Investigators from the Birmingham Police Department, Trussville Police Department, Jefferson County Sheriff Office and Hueytown Police Department worked together to narrow down the possible location of the body of Paighton Houston. On January 3, 2020, Investigators executed a search warrant at the home and located human remains on the property. Those remains were transported to the Jefferson County Coroner’s Office and later identified as the remains of Paighton Houston. The examination is not complete and there has been no determination of the manner and cause of death. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office will be continuing this investigation and prosecution will be through the Bessemer Division of Jefferson County.”

    Paighton Houston Found Dead: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
     
  16. lindaromas

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    That's what I was wondering too! This guy shot at a couple missed, a sheriff lived in the are, heard the shot, persued and caught him. But, his charges are 2 different murders and a shooting complaint. Very strange.

    ETA Here's the story, you'll have to look him up at JCO to see his actual charges Shooting suspect quickly nabbed after police chief hears shots, jumps into action
     
  17. ReckoningDay

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    Ok, so the latest news may make it seem more likely that there was possible drug use. (Although we can't determine for sure.) So that is leading me to some practical questions. Can you fine folks help me make a list of possible reasons someone NOT guilty of harming PH, would go the effort of moving her body then burying her?

    I'd like feedback of both why a friend would do this, or why a stranger would do this. It just seems very extreme, when people who OD are saved ever day by having emergency medication administered. I feel that there is still a huge piece of the puzzle missing. Seems that it won't be simply a relapse/OD.

    I asked everyone in my family how they would react if they were with a friend who OD, or partying with a stranger who OD. Not one could think of any scenario in which they would bury the victim.
     
  18. ReckoningDay

    ReckoningDay Well-Known Member

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    What a lovely young lady!
     
  19. Artis

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    At least for some here, other sources of info can be a factor, even though they can't be discussed here. Some of that going on. At that point, mom was merely repeating what she'd been told.
     
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  20. BlinkOfAnI

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    I get what you are saying but there shouldn't be any withholding of info on the death certificate itself. Federal and local laws have specific guidelines for information and release of death certificates. A death certificate must still be completed with notation of any findings but if specific COD is not found it will be marked as "pending investigation" and the DC will be amended later with official COD. There can be no burial or cremation without a DC so the family will receive it shortly. If there was nothing found at autopsy it will say that but if one were to have any type of finding it would be listed now. JMO
     
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