Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #38

[Straitfan]

As more little tid bits are aired, I find myself analysing what is it about this case that angers me so much. I tend to ponder all angles of those affected by Allison's death - children, siblings, parents, friends etc and sometimes consider their loss too great to possibly fathom. I feel we (society) have lost a person who had a great deal left to contribute.

If/when GBC gets convicted - I don't feel any prison sentence fits such a crime. We, the taxpayers, will be burdened with the cost of keeping him alive... while he catches a flick on the tv in his cell or partakes in a game of poker before tea (we will also pay for the long, drawn out legal process that gets him there). Sure, there'll be loss of freedom, but in my view, this is NOT repaying your 'debt' to society - just adding insult to injury. Eye for an eye. IMHO. But that's a whole other debate..... Whichever way you look at, emotionally or financially - one person (possibly more???) in one foul swoop has taken a lot from this world that will impact generations to come.

Nothing here that probably hasn't already been said before by many others - just had to speak my mind!

(ALL IMHO)

True, same is USA, why should taxpayers pay forever...Sometimes cases such as this make me lean more towards the death penalty ( I am from Texas, soo...) as when it drags on for years it is or has to be a constant factor in the families life, really no closer...What young child should have to live their life into adulthood visiting a prison, always hanging over their head..no end for them ... That is the sad part, all the lives that are forever changed because of one evil person...Heartbreaking...

 

[Fuskier]

Marly, now I'm confused! :waitasec: I've just gone back over all of my old posts and I can't find where I've said that Discreet Investigations & Security Pty. Ltd. trading as OzSpy, is connected to GBC. ASIC doesn't mention any connection either. It's weird because I do remember seeing it on the ASIC site. :waitasec:

Makara your posts nos: 1101, 1108 and 1110 covered this point. Also Mountain Mist above post no: 1227.
The ASIC site was down for a day or so for repairs, so has info on the ASIC site changed since then?
I guess it would be wise to establish if the earlier information posted was correct or not? or has the information changed since? We seek some clarity around this from our Company sleuths.

 

[Mountain Misst]

Makara your own posts nos: 1101, 1108 and 1110 covered this point. Also read Mountain Mist above post no: 1227. The ASIC site was down for a day or so for repairs, so has info on the ASIC site changed since then?

Makara:http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view...HcfO&trk=pbmap Post 1101.
... shows who the Director at Discreet Investigations & Security Pty Ltd T/A OzSpy Indooroopilly is. The same company that is apparently linked to Astute Real Estate Personnel P/L of which GBC is a director Post 1108.

Thanks Fuskier.

This is the link which gave us GBC as director of A-REP:
http://www.yatedo.com/p/gerard+baden-clay/normal/4c2ebf5b0612eff57a455714b077cea3

A-REP website http://a-rep.com.au/ - gives us PD as Managing Director

Linkedin search on PD - http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=21045018&pid=29152968&authType=name&authToken=HcfO&trk=pbmap
gives us a list of PD companies apart from A-REP - leads us to Discreet Investigations & Security Pty Ltd which is the parent coy for Ozspy Indooroopilly


Whether GBC is a director of both is the question. PD and GBC are co-directors of A-REP and PD is Managing Director of Ozspy Indooroopilly, however we have mislaid the evidence between GBC and the second parent company (Discreet Investigations & Security P/L) apart from the connection between the two men. Am still fossicking, as am sure Makara is as well.

Either way, GBC and his mate, the MD of Ozspy no doubt chatted about the ramifications of 'snooper-bloopers' being used...

 

[Straitfan]

Where did BrizzychikinUS go?? and the other original gang???

 

[Makara]

Makara your own posts nos: 1101, 1108 and 1110 excerpts below covered this point. Also read Mountain Mist above post no: 1227. The ASIC site was down for a day or so for repairs, so has info on the ASIC site changed since then? Is the earlier information posted correct or not?

Makara: Post 1101 http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view...HcfO&trk=pbmap

Makara: Post 1108 ... shows who the Director at Discreet Investigations & Security Pty Ltd T/A OzSpy Indooroopilly is. The same company that is apparently linked to Astute Real Estate Personnel P/L of which GBC is a director.

Makara: post 1110
CC, these are not all the same company. All of the ACN and ABN numbers are different. The first one in the list with 70128168874 ABN number is the one connected to Astute Real Estate Personnel P/L. It was registered in 2007 and is currently active. The trading name is Ozspy Indooroopilly (from 11 December 2008) and the business name is In Command Data Systems (from 21 June 2012).

I guess it is important to establish if the earlier information posted was correct or not? or has the information changed since? We seek some clarity around this from our Company sleuths.

Thanks Fuskier. I saw all of the posts you mentioned above but none of them actually have mention that GBC or NBC have a connection to Discreet Investigations & Security Pty Ltd T/A OzSpy Indooroopilly. The same company that is apparently linked to Astute Real Estate Personnel P/L.

I can recall clearly that Astute Real Estate was one of the companies connected to either GBC or NBC but a search of that name no longer yields any results. :waitasec: A search on ASIC for Astute Real Estate Personnel P/L shows that the last change of company details was on 23/05/12.

23/05/2012 7E4471622 Change to Company Details (484)

Change of Registered Address (484B)
Change of Principal Place of Business (Address) (484C)
Change Officeholder Name or Address (484A1)
Change Member Name or Address (484A2)

BBM.

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...l&searchType=OrgAndBusNm&searchText=119344393

 

[Makara]

Thanks Fuskier.

This is the link which gave us GBC as director of A-REP:
http://www.yatedo.com/p/gerard+baden-clay/normal/4c2ebf5b0612eff57a455714b077cea3

A-REP website http://a-rep.com.au/ - gives us PD as Managing Director

Linkedin search on PD - http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=21045018&pid=29152968&authType=name&authToken=HcfO&trk=pbmap
gives us a list of PD companies apart from A-REP - leads us to Discreet Investigations & Security Pty Ltd which is the parent coy for Ozspy Indooroopilly


Whether GBC is a director of both is the question. PD and GBC are co-directors of A-REP and PD is Managing Director of Ozspy Indooroopilly, however we have mislaid the evidence between GBC and the second parent company (Discreet Investigations & Security P/L) apart from the connection between the two men. Am still fossicking, as am sure Makara is as well.

Either way, GBC and his mate, the MD of Ozspy no doubt chatted about the ramifications of 'snooper-bloopers' being used...

BBM.

Thanks MM. That's just it though, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that GBC is connected to A-REP at all now. I'm wondering if one of my posts relating to this was deleted. :waitasec:

Yes, I'm still fossicking. :banghead:

 

[Fuskier]

Found another reference to Ozspy and GBC possibly promoting his interests in it by
Aunty: post no: 1123

I just found this googling interesting ...
All members of the Brisbane Inner West Chamber of Commerce are invited to register as Trade Members.
Trade Membership entitles holders to a regular newsletter with our specials as well as 10% discount on all goods and services provided by OzSpy
So.... GBC was using his interest in the Chamber of Commerce to promote his OZSpy Indooroopilly interests...[unquote].

Chekoutchik post no: 1125 posted this morning:
I have just copied this from an ASIC search:

Business Name Holder - Organisation Summary

Name: DISCREET INVESTIGATIONS & SECURITY PTY LTD
ACN/ARBN: 128 168 874
ABN: 70 128 168 874
Regulator: Australian Securities and Investments Commission
Business name(s): OZSPY INDOOROOPILLY
IN COMMAND DATA SYSTEMS

So the company trades under 2 names. Ozspy Indooroopilly and In Command Data Systems.

 

[Mountain Misst]

BBM.

Thanks MM. That's just it though, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that GBC is connected to A-REP at all now. I'm wondering if one of my posts relating to this was deleted. :waitasec:

Yes, I'm still fossicking. :banghead:

You haven't lost it Makara...

Click on the link below then click on "Show all professional experiences" and there it is..... Gerard Baden Clay is listed as 2006 - Director of A-REP

http://www.yatedo.com/p/gerard+baden-clay/normal/4c2ebf5b0612eff57a455714b077cea3

 

[Liadan]

Should we be looking at Rational's posts from threads back because I think she had a real lot of info about ASIC and GBC's companies~!

 

[Makara]

You haven't lost it Makara...

Click on the link below then click on "Show all professional experiences" and there it is..... Gerard Baden Clay is listed as 2006 - Director of A-REP

http://www.yatedo.com/p/gerard+baden-clay/normal/4c2ebf5b0612eff57a455714b077cea3

Thank you MM for saving my sanity! :floorlaugh:

 

[Fuskier]

You haven't lost it Makara...

Click on the link below then click on "Show all professional experiences" and there it is..... Gerard Baden Clay is listed as 2006 - Director of A-REP

http://www.yatedo.com/p/gerard+baden-clay/normal/4c2ebf5b0612eff57a455714b077cea3

Quote taken directly from the above link today:
gerard baden-clay - Managing Director / Principal
gerard baden-clay, Brookfield State School P&C, AREP - Astute Real Estate Personnel,

Confirmed.

Thank you Mountain Mist for your great work. :cheers:

 

[Makara]

Quote taken directly from the above link today:
gerard baden-clay - Managing Director / Principal
gerard baden-clay, Brookfield State School P&C, AREP - Astute Real Estate Personnel,

Confirmed.

Thank you Fuskier. :rocker: And just to make it all the more real and prove that I did see it!

 

[marlywings]

Ok thanks guys for sorting all that out...well done!!

And on that note we'll be moving over to a new thread.


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