Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #6

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by Kimster, May 10, 2012.

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  1. laserdisc10

    laserdisc10 Well-Known Member

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    At the same time, man (Brisbane) a day or two ago obviously removed his towball

    Killed his wife with it
     


  2. Confuddled

    Confuddled Fo Shizzle!

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    Popping back with more on the trailer :D


    If I personally were to dispose of a body I wouldn't use a trailer as it would be something else that could possibly bring attention to myself.
    Time of night/ faulty indicator or brake light/ something flying out - all reasons why police could pull me over.
    Why bring un needed attention to myself?
     
  3. BrookieLocal

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    I think it is unlikely that someone who was involved in a hit and run would stop, drag the body into their car and then dump it somewhere. But if it was that I guess the police would not alert the public.

    I believe the lawyer is on the Gold Coast (works there but not sure where he lives) so that is an hour away. If GB-C was up all night planning what to do he certainly could have called his lawyer at 6 in the morning.

    The timing on that Thurs 19th/Fri 20th is definitely what is confusing all of us!:waitasec:
     
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    minni Former Member

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    having a little breakdown tonight....yelled and screamed at all my family for picking on me and my obsession with this case....crabby all night, and now feeling very teary...NAY. not feeling teary, actually really *&*%^%ing upset..i dont know why or whether it relates to the emotion of the day but I am not coping today....will be back soon though take care all you wonderful people
     
  5. Deezee

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    Sorry I didn't mention this in my first post about the hairdressers.. I remember reading a fe posts and I think it sounds likely she did get her hair done... But even when I get my hair done nicely.. If I am having a huge argument with someone I would still head outside for air and walk it off... That said I wouldn't go for a run or do anything strenuous.. Buy a walk doesn't do too much damage... And a lot less than sleeping on it.. So if it was a bit more of a fancy haircut then I doubt she would of slept on it either.. So it,ight of just been a basic blowdry or cut.

    I really just want to try to explore this angle more as I have been here since first thread days and I have never seen this fully tested.

    But then i do acknowledge that everyone is making large assumptions trying to connect very far away dots.. Myself included... But devils advocate brings out some good debate :)


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  6. laserdisc10

    laserdisc10 Well-Known Member

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    On the other hand though and as Brizzy's suggested, it's a way of keeping DNA and other evidence out of the vehicle

    Also, it could be a 'distancing' mechanism. Physical distance between the killer and victim. A way to objectify the victim's remains - not a person. A body. A thing to be disposed of. Not part of 'me'. 'I' am unsullied, up front here in my clean, neat car. 'That' is at the back. On it's own. Not connected to 'me'

    If a body were in a trailer and covered with a tarp and if the killer knew the route and time and distances involved, the odds were probably in his/her favour at that time of night

    Whether or not a trailer was used I have no idea, but it's a plausible theory
     
  7. Deezee

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    My experiences with trailers is they take ages to hook up, are loud and clangy and I agree would draw all sorts of attention to you.but then I only digit once and I was very noobish?

    If we go down the track of the white prado being seen through the roundabout.. Surley one would take a silver car as opposed to a white car with an obvious c21 sticker on it which any witness would easily identify.?


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  8. Lurker on Websleuths

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    Ok look very important to keep an open mind, point taken, but I still think its way off the mark. QPS go into a whole different mode of operation for suspectd hit and runs than they do for MURDER INVESTIGATIONS. If it were a hit and run , they probably would have declared that the deceased showed signs of road trauma when the body was reovered and brought this out publicly. This has not been done . Go more down the road of vehicle captured on video proves last known whereabouts of deceased or destroys someone else's story as to where they were at a certain time. Just my opinion. Probably would stick if they for instance had a witness that was able to stand up in court and say something like " on that night I travelled that location and noticed a particular vehicle in that location, or i travelled behind said vehicle" and they would want to tie in that persons legitimate movements with their vehicle being seen on video footage at that time aswell .
     
  9. clem1970

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    I have asked myself many times over the last couple of weeks why i am so obsessed with this case. Is it because of all the unknowns or uncertainty or is it because of all the media surrounding it? Another senseless murder occured on the northside of Brisbane a few days ago - husband killed wife and yet i dont even remember that poor ladies name even being mentioned on the news, let alone seeing more than one news item on it.

    Every day i, like you all, spend hours reading every post on here - in search of answers. Yet, i barely paused for a second when the more recent murder was reported on the news.

    Sad on all counts.
     
  10. Confuddled

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    Good call, I'll pay that.

    Easier to hose out a trailer or throw contaminants around than meticulously combing the car for fibres, fluids etc

    I enjoy nutting things out with you!
     
  11. Blue Bottle

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    Grief and expressing grief and sorrow is private to many people and having media attention and cameras pointing at you and knowing people (strangers) are watching every move you make would be quite intrusive and overwhelming to most people I would imagine.
     
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    Agree - highly unlikely to be a hit and run or random abduction. I think we would have been looking at a Daniel Morecombe scenario. I truly believe the police have known from very early on who the killer is. I do not believe Mark Ainsworth would have said they had a level of confidence of an arrest if it was an abduction or hit and run.
     
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    Apart from what was printed about it in the CM, TV news also described it as road blocks (with footage of road blocks interviewing drivers), not re-enactment.
     
  14. Nads

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    I think it's because firstly Allison was missing for so long and there's been such a whodunnit type of atmosphere, with so many veilled references and hints in the media. They definitely know something they are not yet allowed to say and it's driving us all mad!

    The other murder was all over and we knew who did it by the time we found out. I'm not sure if they even said the names either. I too have been wondering why I didn't care so much about that case!!
     
  15. laserdisc10

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    Didn't want your post to vanish unseen

    From media reports, the lawyer is based on the GC

    Would have to be something really special I imagine, to get a lawyer to get himself personally to a house, first thing in the morning

    So maybe 'mens club' network at work?

    To summon a lawyer at that time of day, you'd have to be pretty damn fearful and convinced it was a matter of life and death. And would need to convince lawyer of same, no?

    I mean, who has a lawyer's home number handy for such emergencies anyway? He's not a standard, suburban solicitor from what I understand, but instead is a gun criminal lawyer -- the kind which specialises in serious crimes such as murder, etc

    Who took the kids home? We know nothing of that angle. Were they (person bringing the kids home) told that overnight, GBC was in such a state he'd succeeded in getting a lawyer onto the premises basically at sunrise?

    When and by whom was the decision made to not only summon a top criminal lawyer and persuade him to attend physically, prior to reporting ABC as 'missing'?

    What caused GBC and whomever else was involved at that point that the physical attendance of a top criminal lawyer was necessary?

    Why did police respond as swiftly as they did, in person?

    If it were me, I would have needed to be involved in something major and would have spent at least an hour or more in discussion with others (by phone or in person) before I would have reacted to the point I called a lawyer at that time of day/night AND for that lawyer to agree the matter was extreme to the point he would drive from wherever to advise me in person and protect me when I got around to calling the police to report my spouse as 'missing'
     
  16. laserdisc10

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    But there was a Twitter alert from a radio personality about the time in question

    Anyway, it will all emerge in good time I guess
     
  17. Lurker on Websleuths

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    Has anybody on this website seen a four corners program where they were looking at peoples movements using information gatherted from mobile phone companies, might have been a murder investigation, but anyway, they showed how phone companies can track people by their movement within their cells, and determine location accuracy fairly closely ?? I would think that they would be looking at various suspects and aquaintances to determine movements on that night using information from telcos, then tie that in with video footage and most importantly witness statements if they can find the witness.
     
  18. UnfoldingTruth

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    Yes, also believe legal advice was sought before police contact...(not saying anything, just what I have heard..)
     
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    Looking at the image, I believe its a Ute (with cabin on the back) and not at 4x4 like a Prado. Many trades people carry all their tools in trailers and leave the trailers permanently hook up, or someone could have borrowed one from a friend after a few drinks that night, or could have used it to buy a fridge (it was late night shopping), or they could be moving house, etc. There could be many reasons. IMO it has nothing to do with what police did last night.
     
  20. UnfoldingTruth

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    Really appreciate you post. And assesment of how you see things and acknowledgement of where you are coming from in relation to your post. Its good to have considered opinion regardless of which way it leans.
     
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