Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

Nope. It's not really a "bog lap" area like say Fremantle or Northbridge. JR was last seen outside Conti which maybe some guys might drive past. The other two spots are remote and if someone was doing laps, not really. Maybe SS.

As for military - certainly a possibility but Conti and Club were not hot spots for military guys.

 

Do you have evidence to say otherwise?
A rape victim runs naked through the doors of a hospital straight from the crime within 5 minutes and there is no DNA? Sorry, but its true. And the link between the rape victim and the CSK crime is well documented in the provided links.
Police are DNA testing everyone they identify in the pub video. That is as late as last year that I know of. If you are not sure, you are welcome to ring them yourself.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/c...vestigate-1995-rape-lead-20151016-gkaq8i.html
Title search: Claremont serial killer case: WA Police investigate 1995 rape lead
Date: October 16 2015, Emma Young
Online: 22 Oct 2016, Status: Non Paywall, Time: 10:15pm AEST

 

The Claremont murders were specific - a certain type of girl from a specific area. I'm struggling to see he would change area, abduct a pre-pubescent boy, * and use a different method to kill. Less that 1% chance IMO.

 

1. No I don't but I never claimed I did.
2. Whilst I'm quite sure they have Karra DNA, I'm not 100%.
3. The forensic link between Karra and CG is claimed to be DNA. Police have neither confirmed nor denied. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that supports the No DNA theory.
4. You don't know they are testing everyone who was in the Conti. Even if they were, it doesn't necessarily mean they have DNA. Afterall, the tested 2500 taxi drivers when they didn't have DNA.
5. I highly doubt police would tell a random calling in that they are testing everyone for DNA.

 

Lot's of pedophiles are married. But in private they're not running around chasing skirt because they're actually interested in young boys.

As I said - his main gig was adult women. The two kids he killed were the children of one of his adult female victims.

I haven't ruled it out. Just saying the chances are extremely thin.

It get brought up every now and then and the only rationale is "they were dumped not far from each other and it happened a few months after CG". Nothing else really matches.

 

I wonder if Moreys reference to Christian was Bret Christian of The Post?

Did Sarah McMahon know too much? Sarah McMahon buying $10000 worth amphetamine might know a few customers and what went on working 600 metres up the road from Bay View tce?

Where the hell is Morey getting enough amphetamine to sell $10000 lots at a time? Who has $10000 lots of amphetamine? That is not a small player.

 

Was the wire used to tie the girls up, not telephone cable, but reticulation cable used in sprinkler reticulation? They look similar. Sarah McMahon worked at Hugall and Hoile? Was our Karrakatta rape victim a reticulation installer in a van?


source: pressreader.com

 

There is the proof of DNA testing. And suggestions Kerry Turner may have fallen victim. (Dark Blue DATSUN 260z)

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/c...w-clues-on-murderers-car-20151204-glfnot.html

 

I've never had any form of armed services/self defense/martial arts training in my life but i'm pretty sure if I wanted too I could quite easily blitz attack and abduct most women/girls within a minute either by brute force or absolute compliance because of fear.

 

Bart,

They do have a very good idea it was a panel van. Remember the victim walked passed the panel van first which was parked in a nearby car park before she was abducted further down the road. It has been claimed that this panel van was the car that abducted her. There is a newspaper article detailing this very detail as fact. So if the car was seen, then they know there was a panel van parked near the abduction, the only thing they do not know with any certainty is whether that Panel Van was the car used in the abduction. I think they must have worked out that she felt like she had been transfered and carried to this van and have determined it to be the car used in the Karrakatta abduction.

I can not find the news paper article but I think it may be one of the post articles. It definitely said she walked passed a panel van parked in a car park before she was abducted though.

Police were checking all panel van owners 3-5 years ago so I assume the panel van must now be considered fact in the police circles.

 

I'm with Bart on this one, although it does happen and it is possible, I think the chances of the CSK going from good looking upper class young women from an affluent area to an 11 year old boy is extremely unlikely. The CSK either has a link to Claremont or to the type of victims found there or else he would be taking the easy route of abducting and murdering common prostitutes which would be a safer bet against being caught.

Does anyone have any idea what exactly Lance Williams job entailed? I know it was to do with roads, so wouldn't this give him the skill set to dump the bodies at the locations bisecting the abduction area opposed to the common theory of someone in the armed services?

I'm too lazy to search through 6 threads so does anyone recall off the top of their head an estimated date of when LW's close friend died, and what was the cause of death?

 

Bart, The bolded part, Blunt force trauma, this could be a punch, a whack in the head with an object, or even whacked in the head with a fire poker.... I know you are a fan of the fire poker theory, so tell me again why you have never heard of blunt force trauma when you have most definitely heard the fire poker rumour. I am not ruling in or out fire poker, but I beleive an object was used for at least one of the victims.

 

Just so you dont think I am lying about this here is the post article:
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/54883877/to-serial-killer/47

The karrakatta victim was able to identify the colour of the panel van, and she saw the panel van, its a panel van.

 

There is only one person claiming there is DNA. The link you provided gives that person as their source.

Typically with journalism, when one outlet breaks a story the rest follow and uncover more info. They go to their sources and confirm Intel and get new info. Not in this case though. Not one media outlet was able to uncover anything.

Police have refused to confirm or deny.

Therefore, at this stage, there's not really enough proof to be sure they have DNA.

Can you provide a link please. Not saying it doesn't exist, just want to understand the context of the theory.

 

Please provide evidence of the Police saying that GR is not connected.

 

Donald Morey is due for release this year, and he may have already been released. I don't think there will be any official announcement when he is released. But we will have another serial killer on the loose here in WA if the courts do let him out. I wonder who will be stupid enough to sign off Morey's release.

Keep an eye out for any missing woman once he is released, he will undoubtedly kill again, and given he is a seasoned hardened killer, he will probably get away with it.

 

I recall the article saying it might have been a pv. In what context exactly I don't recall.

But to suggest this is necessarily fact is flawed. Every large media story has incorrect facts reported, especially at the start.

It may have been a pv.

 

There were reports the Police were actively looking into up to 20 unsolved historical missing persons and murder cases for links. So this information is a direct contradiction to the information Bart has produced.

 

why should I do this? I have never claimed there's irrefutable evidence they 're not connected. I have said it's extremely unlikely - which it is.

 

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/54883877/to-serial-killer/47

Above is the newspaper article direct link.

Here is the direct quote:

This was published in the Post December 5th 2015