Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #14

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  1. Canning Vale

    Canning Vale Active Member

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    Spinnaker,

    Thanks for the information. It appears to be the same perp. Taxi's have equipment in them, perhaps it was a white commodore and the victim initially thought she was getting into a taxi, but it wasn't explained in the book. I think there was another story about a taxi.
     


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    Can someone please let me know how to display my signature which contains text and a small icon? The text and icon is displayed but doesn't show when I have typed and uploaded text.
     
  3. Spinnaker

    Spinnaker Well-Known Member

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    Can we just stick to good old fashioned sleuthing which includes the following:

    • Less artwork
    • More fact based sleuthing with links.
     
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    I want to add the wording 'This is only my thoughts and opinion'. Instead of typing it each time.
     
  5. meticulously

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    Canning Vale,
    websleuths posters just say jmo or imo
    So they dont have to type it all out everytime they post an opinion or thought .

    Just in case anyones else is interested in the etiquette & information thread .
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  6. Spooks-R-Us

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    Does anyone have a good web link resource for the Zodiac Killer?

    Also are there any other SK's well known for pattern type killings or D-Sites?



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    I read a lot about the Zodiac Killer last year after watching the movie, which was what lead me to being interested in the CSK case. These are the sites I used most in my research.

    http://www.zodiackiller.com
    http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/forums
    http://www.zodiackillersite.com
    http://zodiackillerfacts.com
     
  8. Spooks-R-Us

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    Thank you for the links. Really appreciate your help as now I can zone straight in on the good websites.

    .....While CSK case is quiet I'm planning to nail that Zodiac killer!
    Cheers
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    Just need a recap -

    Do WAPOL only have car fibres from JR?

    Something is off for me. How can WAPOL include Jane's murder with BRE charges if they only have car fibres and a similar MO?

    IMO it seems possible that even a flimsy lawyer could dispute car fibres from a common car model and type???

    Is there more documented evidence from Jane's murder that I've forgotten about ?




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  10. Spooks-R-Us

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    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/426615/mathematicians-reveal-serial-killers-pattern-of-murder/

    Mathematicians reveal that SK behaviour could be influenced by the pattern of neurons firing (activating) in the brain.

    For SK's, the urge to kill and killing occurs when certain neurons in the brain repeatedly reach a certain threshold over a certain amount of time.

    **My analogy - kinda like poking that angry bear with that stick - eventually the grizzly bear reacts and bites your head off!

    They mathematicians also predict that further kills are more likely to occur soon after a recent kill, in much the same way the risk of further avalanches occurs after one initial avalanche.

    This theory could explain why the CSK allegedly committed 3 murders and then possibly stopped killing. The 3 murders could have 'sedated' the CSK until a later time when the neurons flood the killing threshold point again.
     
  11. Spooks-R-Us

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    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201506/serial-killers-modus-operandi-signature-staging-posing


    "Disorganized Offenders
    Disorganized crimes...are not planned and the criminals typically leave evidence such as fingerprints or blood at the scene of the murder.....Disorganized criminals may be young.......be compulsive masturbators....disorganized killers will often “blitz” their victims—that is, use sudden and overwhelming force to assault them. The victim’s body is usually left where the attack took place and the killer makes no attempt to hide it."


    "Organized Offenders
    ... organized crimes are premeditated and carefully planned, so little evidence is normally found at the scene. Organized criminals... are antisocial (often psychopathic) but know right from wrong, are not insane and show no remorse...Based on historical patterns, organized killers are likely to be above-average intelligent, attractive, married or living with a domestic partner, employed, educated, skilled, orderly, cunning and controlled....typically three separate crime scenes: where the victim was approached by the killer, where the victim was killed, and where the victim’s body was disposed of. Organized killers are very difficult to apprehend because they go to inordinate lengths to cover their tracks and often are forensically savvy, meaning they are familiar with police investigation methods...They are likely to follow the news media reports of their crimes and may even correspond with the news media."

    IMO the alleged CSK possibly started his criminal career as a disorganised offender (eg: HD and KK), but then with time and practice, later transformed into an organised offender/killer (SS, JR, and CG).
     
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    I suspect something at the dump site or method of the killing has linked the two. Doubtful they could get any DNA off JR given the 2 month time frame, the weather and swampy location. Agree the car fibres are pretty easy to dispute. Could have been from any commodore/taxi she caught



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    Some food for thought:

    Will Advances In Neurocriminology Give Rise To A Criminal Disorder Being Identified?

    https://www.crimetraveller.org/2017/01/neurocriminology/

    Thoughtcrime? The ethics of neuroscience and criminality

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2011/02/thoughtcrime-the-ethics-of-neuroscience-and-criminality/

    *"the interplay between genetics and environment are inseparable, especially when it comes to criminal activity."

    https://youtu.be/oLXr_slKg08

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    We don't know what evidence WAPOL has. At the time of the arrest media reported the car fibres from the Commodore. The car was seized in December 2016 from the news.com.au article, but forensic tests take time and as this matter is before the courts WAPOL cannot release the information. JMO.

    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...r/news-story/6c72e0b800816c7c17018525bcd68229

    http://www.news.com.au/national/wes...n/news-story/b29cf41ca78d357849340497bb28ce30
     
  15. Spooks-R-Us

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    Ok so possibly Jane's case centres around car upholstery fibres and similar MO.




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    Have we compiled a list of items and evidence allegedly collected from the accused BRE's property in Kewdale or other family abodes?

    WAPOL collected
    1. Computers
    2. ?

    Do we have MSM confirmation of any other items?




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  17. Spooks-R-Us

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    It's spookily quiet here ......



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    I don't think it is a line exactly 90 degrees to the North - South CG - JR line. IMO its a line that goes from Cottesloe beach through the Conti Hotel. In my rough estimation it went to Red Hill auditorium, or between Rd Hill amphitheater and the Red Hill Dump. There is something a bit more to it than just two lines intersecting.
    I have to keep coming back to the trouble it took to get JR's car into the ocean, which my my calculations had to happen being dumped off a boat and involved it being put into a car crusher after a possible accident meant it couldn't be driven there. So how important was it that the car went into the ocean at Cott, lights on, doors shut, roof crushed to the bonnet or boot, two days after the back seat ended up there?
     
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