Australia Australia - Claremont SK, 1996-97, Perth, WA - #14

[Spooks-R-Us]

Could it be possible, BRE spoke to CG about a divorce prior to her going overseas. Does that fit with the timeline.

I have to look up CG's law firm again and see what type of law they specialise in.


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[petedavo.au]

I have to look up CG's law firm again and see what type of law they specialise in.


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Mostly commercial stuff, like contracts. Which is how my mother in law's friend who worked at HWE came to be at a staff function that had the legal firm's staff at. Can't remember whether her firm was at theirs or vice versa though. But it's common for law firms and private investigation firms and such like to invite client firm staff to parties, as it's all about touting for work.

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[Canning Vale]

Most government agencies or larger corporations where staff have access to private details of individuals have VERY strict rules about who can access data files.
Staff can only access private data of their clients and no one else. And yes they sign confidentiality agreements for period of their employment and for pre-agreed time frame after leaving that employment.
Staff members can NOT freely search client data bases. And usually if they do they are dire consequences and even termination.


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What I've mentioned about the revenue data bases is that most probably a great deal of staff would have access. I've worked for a few government agencies and that's how they work. It's just reality!

 

[Canning Vale]

The law firm CG worked for (BDW) cover litigation and dispute resolution, taxation, banking, insolvency, corporate and general commercial litigation.

Separation from a spouse usually requires a divorce and property settlement, I'm not sure if a property settlement comes under dispute resolution.

https://www.businessnews.com.au/article/New-partners-for-Blake-Dawson-Waldron

http://www.perthnow.com.au

 

[Bunnie]

Regarding : The Blogspot post

She says he used the UBD street directory.

For what it's worth all State Government Agencies got the DOLA Streetsmart directory as a free issue, so every state government vehicle and such like used the referencing system in Streetsmart, which went page number and an alphabetical grid reference. So anyone ever employed by a state government agency would've used Streetsmart instead.

I don't know about Federal government agencies and corporations, like Telstra. Maybe they could've issued UBD directories to their staff?

Eastern States printed directories like UBD's and Gregory's were commercial products.

The writer seemed familiar with using the UBD.

This suggests to me that the writer had maybe used one often, maybe in the Taxi, or trucking industry or had a partner who did.

The knowledge of CB radio codes tend to suggest maybe a freight company radio operator.

Actual CBers used slang like CQ, YLs, more than 10 codes, and what they did was limited to 10-4 and 10-20 at best.

I think she if she was female and into numerology and Aquarius type stuff, maybe other quirky stuff then she would've been more specific in saying this is where she thinks SS is.
The age she said at the end of the post seems possible but improbable.

Her knowledge of Perth and persons, and ideas of what's going on suggests someone with grudges themselves.

I think the writer might be lying about being female.

There could be a chance that it is written by the accused to obfuscate and lead everyone astray. IMO.



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I know that at the time of the CSK we used Streetsmart not UBD as the map book of choice in the largest taxi co-op dispatch baseroom in Perth. (Not mentioning the name)

 

[Canning Vale]

Most government agencies or larger corporations where staff have access to private details of individuals have VERY strict rules about who can access data files.
Staff can only access private data of their clients and no one else. And yes they sign confidentiality agreements for period of their employment and for pre-agreed time frame after leaving that employment.
Staff members can NOT freely search client data bases. And usually if they do they are dire consequences and even termination.


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:chillout:

I was attempting to explain about government service providers, without mentioning any particular government agencies name. However, I will mention that a techie would need to raise work orders. Work orders are usually raised from a revenue system. A revenue system contains the customer details.

 

[petedavo.au]

I know that at the time of the CSK we used Streetsmart not UBD as the map book of choice in the largest taxi co-op dispatch baseroom in Perth. (Not mentioning the name)

I vaguely remember my old school friend had a UBD when he worked at Telecom and Telstra. Dunno if it was a work issued one or not as it was in his Torana

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[Canning Vale]

I vaguely remember my old school friend had a UBD when he worked at Telecom and Telstra. Dunno if it was a work issued one or not as it was in his Torana

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Some street directories had overlays. For a few extra dollars overlays were supplied, showing the services. I think UBD supplied them. Telstra employees would need to know where the gas, electric and any other pipework was buried.

 

[PCS]

Here Canning Vale is the approx location of the GR cross the Shoalwater task force placed in Karnup. It is probably still there & on a dry day you can still probably go there in a 2wd. I think the perp who did it was a local or just passing through. IMO.

 

[PCS]

Oh BTW the pine trees have all been cut down, so don't expect to see them. Someone posted quite some time ago that 'SS was in Parkerville' & also said 'And that is a fact!' I think that might have been BRE, but maybe not also. He also said the good Doc knew more than anyone else. So was that P/ville, Pechey Rd,Swan View or Ankatell. The former head of the SCS said if SS was in the Jane Brook creek there would be nothing left. I would agree. Teams have searched at the top of Swan View & one person has been all over Parkerville. Hopefully the SCS might get some clues from BRE's PC as to where SS may be. The P/ville exchange is #2 Owen Rd. But is too close to houses.

 

[Twist]

Considering the time constraints prior to first light and the police belief they were sexually motivated attacks with an intermediary location and the girls were left the night they were abducted, I think a final location closer to the abduction point is the only logical place that would leave enough time to finish whatever it was he needed to finish & to make it home in total darkness, which has to be the safest bet IMO.
Otherwise, his entire process would have to be incredibly quick to be able to travel any further afield without running the risk of being caught by the daylight somewhere along the way, thus increasing his risks of being seen & possibly identified. This is too high a risk IMO & makes no sense. He'd only need to have 1 passing motorist notice something they thought was strange at the time, and Im sure they'd think it all the more strange when news hit the headlines. People dont usually report things they cant clearly see.
Unless, the police assumptions were wrong and she was taken to the intermediary place for an extended time then moved again on a different day. It would give him plenty of additional hours of darkness to go much further afield, and also to hide her well
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Possibility also explain victim discovery sites being well away from each other. Try to cause confusion to investigators by concentrating on discovery sites rather than any possible holding site/s.
Perpetrator did "hold" at lest one earlier victim till they were no longer required, this process could easily escalate as the ******* predator evolved.

 

[DRT]

:chillout:

I was attempting to explain about government service providers, without mentioning any particular government agencies name. However, I will mention that a techie would need to raise work orders. Work orders are usually raised from a revenue system. A revenue system contains the customer details.

So do phone books. The only advantage someone would have who worked in a telecommunications company may be access to private numbers or reverse listings which weren't readily available at the time. Units were often listed with the block number without the unit number in the phone book.

 

[Canning Vale]

So do phone books. The only advantage someone would have who worked in a telecommunications company may be access to private numbers or reverse listings which weren't readily available at the time. Units were often listed with the block number without the unit number in the phone book.

It would be possible for a Telstra employee to search a phone number and locate an address.

 

[WhyWhy]

Meticulously, still an orienteering member reading and occasionally posting, but unpopularly have no interest in the map lines proposed. Other than to say that RedHill, JohnForrest and Parkerville are all often run over every which way by orienteers. So unless covered / buried likely for SS to already have been found if there.
IMO


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[DRT]

It would be possible for a Telstra employee to search a phone number and locate an address.

Hi Canning Vale, that is what I meant with Reverse Listings. I know somewhere around 1997 to 1998 I had a cold call from a charity asking if I would like to collect for them in a particular area this was not in WA and I asked them how they knew I was in that area to which the response was they had a reverse listing. I think around that time Telstra was selling CDs to businesses who were able to reverse list it themselves.

I guess knowing their address with the identified victims is irrelevant.

Adding to your point there have been other forum comments I think originating from the Post Newspaper about a woman attacked receiving phone calls from
someone who they believed was the offender. She wanted to know how they got her number.

 

[Innerchild]

This is weird. Didn't come across this before. Who wrote it? The accused?
http://claremontserialkillings.blogspot.com.au/?m=1

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Weird and double weird.

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an address I lived as at 20 10 1992 which was unit 36, of a street number 46 in Glendalough (Irish name)

the address of my parents (Catholic) as at 20 10 1992 was house number 126 in a street in another suburb

my employer's address as at 20 10 1992 was number 56 in a street in West Perth

my year of birth is 1961

postcode of Claremont is 6010

The father and mother: Holy Rosary School on Angelico Woodlands. However you get 126 Williamstown on this corner on a google search (see .jpg)

Williams, the town is Williams is a town located in the Wheatbelt region of Western Australia, 161 kilometres south-southeast of the state capital, Perth along Albany Highway and 32 kilometres west of Narrogin. The Williams River passes through the town. Wikipedia HEMA Map reference 74/F4. 33 01' 49" S 116 52' 46" E

126.161.32E ??

The son
36 46 Moondyne 6084
36.466084

The employer
56 Ord St West Perth Wray Patent Attorneys ?

Check out 56 Thomas St WP and 61 Thomas St WP.

Birth 1961

Postcode Claremont 6010

Ignore 0 and 9's (numerology) 1661

Extra weird is that 126 Williamson comes up automatically on google maps as pictured but in reality number 44 is the house marked in Google. There is no 126. How does someone get google maps to show a non existent house number which matches a 2007 CSK Clue??

20 10 1992 A Patent??

2112 ??

 

[Innerchild]

Mostly commercial stuff, like contracts. Which is how my mother in law's friend who worked at HWE came to be at a staff function that had the legal firm's staff at. Can't remember whether her firm was at theirs or vice versa though. But it's common for law firms and private investigation firms and such like to invite client firm staff to parties, as it's all about touting for work.

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Possible first wife EE was at Conti with CG's Law firm the night she disappeared. If cops don't think the abductions were random, a possible scenario could have been the accused may have been keeping an eye on first wife and noticed CG. Quickly left and knowing shortcut in lane behind ACR was able to abduct her on the night. JMOO.

Interesting, Wrays Patent Attorneys at 56 Ord St West Perth may have been known to CG's old law firm.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Meticulously, still an orienteering member reading and occasionally posting, but unpopularly have no interest in the map lines proposed. Other than to say that RedHill, JohnForrest and Parkerville are all often run over every which way by orienteers. So unless covered / buried likely for SS to already have been found if there.
IMO


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WhyWhy
Do you know if Paull's Valley gets overrun with orienteers?


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[Spooks-R-Us]

I still think Hidden Valley Road sounds like a good location to hide things!! [emoji12][emoji2][emoji106]


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[Canning Vale]

Hi Canning Vale, that is what I meant with Reverse Listings. I know somewhere around 1997 to 1998 I had a cold call from a charity asking if I would like to collect for them in a particular area this was not in WA and I asked them how they knew I was in that area to which the response was they had a reverse listing. I think around that time Telstra was selling CDs to businesses who were able to reverse list it themselves.

I guess knowing their address with the identified victims is irrelevant.

Adding to your point there have been other forum comments I think originating from the Post Newspaper about a woman attacked receiving phone calls from
someone who they believed was the offender. She wanted to know how they got her number.

Drt,

Thanks for the reply, most interesting about the phone calls. I was referring to government service providers such as AG, WP, WC & T. Those providers have certain details of almost everyone in the state. Although a sociopath might have high level access I don’t suppose they’d adhere to the strict confidentiality clauses.

Telephone books are indexed by surname, but a revenue database requires minimal information. Locating someone’s address with a common surname would be easy if you had their suburb.

At least one of those government departments holds latitude and longitude coordinates of each customer’s household. It also holds a history of events which has occurred at the property. Some parts of that system do need different levels of permission access, such as raising work orders which are automatically forwarded to SAP. Some employees have permission to access systems from home, giving hours of search time. I’m not suggesting anyone has done so, but these are my thoughts and opinions.