NOTGUILTY Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #11

Discussion in 'Recently Sentenced and Beyond' started by MsAnais, Aug 9, 2014.

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  1. Trooper

    Trooper On Time Out

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    Bohemian..

    I enjoyed tremendously that website you posted, re creepy.....

    this part particularly resonated, it could actually apply here on this thread.....

    'don’t come at other people with intent that ignores their agency. Don’t have preconceived notions of how you would like an encounter with another person to go, because it assumes they owe you a favorable response. Don’t blame the other person if they don’t follow your ideal script, because it is your fault for dehumanizing people by assigning them a role without their permission or input. Sometimes it doesn’t “go the way you want it to” but why would you really get to decide for someone else how they should react to you?'
     


  2. asac

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    So he served 2 years for his first 3 rounds of convictions for rape/attempted rapes/abductions. Ugh. Seems like it's more a sentencing issue...
     
  3. CleverKnot

    CleverKnot Former Member

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    Meh.

    Feet up? Is that what I'm supposed to say, or "give it a break"? Or was that last bit you posted 'beating a dead horse'?

    I'm not as good at this stuff as the rest of you.
     
  4. SouthAussie

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    Yes, and a parole issue too. We rely on the judiciary and the parole board to get it right. When they continue to get it wrong, so many people pay the price.
    Especially in repetitive child sexual assault cases and escalating rape cases. imo

    That's why I wonder sometimes if relevant priors may be better revealed to the jury, despite the obvious drawback that presumptions may be drawn. Perhaps there is a way that those presumptions can be minimised? Don't know.
     
  5. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    Trooper was speaking about Tostee, I believe.
     
  6. CleverKnot

    CleverKnot Former Member

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    ^
    That's about Tostee???

    " this part particularly resonated, it could actually apply here on this thread....."

    This ought to be a good read. Explain how that quoted post is about Tostee... lol.
     
  7. Bohemian

    Bohemian Well-Known Member

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    No comment. Wut do you think? *starts recording AVI file*
     
  8. Dogface

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    So you think she climbed off due to the huge amount of humiliation and sense of abandonment from a one night stand? Not buying it.

    Perhaps in her frenzy she didn't hear the neighbor since she didn't respond? And I'm sure the thoughts of many imprisoned people are "I want to go home"...could you imagine being choked and then trapped at the home of some guy you met on a dating app? That would be terrifying. And she clearly had no issue of being frightful earlier, saying whatever she wanted...but then, suddenly, after being choked, she is terrified. If she was truly prone to violence she would have been attacking the glass door, threatening to throw furniture off...but she wasn't. Instead she only showed great fear. Something he did, unseen by anyone but WW, caused her to become fearful.
     
  9. TootsieFootsie

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    I'm confused :)
     
  10. CleverKnot

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    I posted the picture assuming the link would show up in the quote. It didn't.

    Someone pointed it out, so I posted the link, and explained why it wasn't there.

    Then, I wrote my post about her being humiliated on the balcony.

    So because there were a few minutes between posts, and an understandable quote error, somehow, the TOS no longer apply?

    That's what is going through my head. What's going through yours?
     
  11. Amee

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    [h=1]Rachel Smalley: No doubt Tostee was the perpetrator of Wright's fear[/h]

    At best, Tostee was a social misfit. But the more we understand about his personality, the more he seems to fit the bill of a classic narcissist. He couldn't sustain a relationship. He lacked empathy. His focus was chiefly on himself, and his needs.

    And ultimately now a young woman is dead. What killed her? Fear. She was, I think, frightened to her death.
    But sadly that is not a crime in the eyes of the law.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11733254
     
  12. Trooper

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    :tantrum:<<<---- If one of these is planned , could you take it elsewhere?.. it is now my breaktime and another one of those is just not acceptable.
     
  13. CleverKnot

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    Oh yes, also note in that post about "Tostee", that there was no link to the site quoted. So where is the ridicule?
     
  14. meticulously

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    Who thinks that tostee was posting on this thread ? There was a vibe coming from those posts a week or so back mostly from frost but strange how there was a new id guest each night

    sent from a tiny cheap gadget
     
  15. Dogface

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    It crossed my tiny hysterical woman brain a few times in between folding laundry and scrubbing dishes.
     
  16. CleverKnot

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    What tantrum? I'm asking for your fine advice on how this works. I'm not talking down to anyone, mansplaining, or any other negative label.

    Someone makes a snarky post, so I politely ask why.

    Someone piles on to that post, so I ask for some clarity.

    Someone defends a post, so I ask for a connection.

    Rather than a baby tantrum, this is how a mature individual communicates.
     
  17. meticulously

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    Oh got it dogface , back to the washing up ...

    sent from a tiny cheap gadget
     
  18. Bohemian

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    Interesting. Why do you want to know wut's 'going through my head'? Hmmm... tell me more.
     
  19. CleverKnot

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    Unfortunately, we don't know her relationship history, or how she deals with abandonment.

    We do know she recently climbed Q1, and skydived. It's not unreasonable to think she was confident at heights, and utterly humiliated in front of what was a growing crowd. Add some serious alcohol, and the mental and physical limitations it creates, and yes, he may have caused her to go over the edge, but by unintentionally triggering something other than fear for her life.
     
  20. SouthAussie

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    This thread is about Warriena, and Tostee.

    "..... why would you really get to decide for someone else how they should react to you"

    Isn't that what Tostee, and his lawyers, said/implied? Definitely what his brahs said. How were they to know that Warriena would try to flee from his control and imprisonment? Despite the numerous accounts of balcony climbs and falls at the Gold Coast. Why didn't she just sit down and wait for him to release her?
     
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